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PT1911 spare the flames please

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Neckshot5seven, May 26, 2008.

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  1. Neckshot5seven

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    I bought a Taurus PT1911 6 months ago, and after 500 rounds, I am pleased with my purchase. I have not had any failures whatsoever. Every kind of factory ammo has been run through it except Wolf or surplus. It feeds hollow points, it goes bang every time, and best of all it hits what I am aiming at. I wear it as my carry and the finish is starting to show some wear as I wear it IWB. One day I may strip off the finish Dura Coat it, but Ill keep it stock for now. I am not a Gold Cup shooter by any means, but at 25 yards I stay in the 8 ring as fast as I can get the factory straight 8 on target. Which is faster than any other sighting system I have used before. It took a little getting used to, but just make a 8, both eyes open and bang. Yes I know it is not your Ed Brown, yes I know I did not pay 1500 dollars like your Kimber Custom Carry, Yes I know what MIM is, and I really could give a u know what. I know the finish is not as good as your Springfield, and the checkering of the frontstrap is not sharp enough to double as a meat saw, but I challenge anyone to find a better 1911 with features like this, that is as reliable as this for under $700. better yet I paid under 600. I trust it with my life.
     
  2. THE MACHINIST

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    yeah they have these at the local sportsmans warehouse for 499.00 blue and 599.00 stainless thx for the report.
     
  3. RX-178

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    Everywhere I ask about these things, nobody can find anything SUBSTANTIAL to say against them.

    I asked the guy behind the counter at Kirk's Gun Shop, and he said straight out that he's sold many of them, and that EVERYONE that's purchased one from him has been very favorably impressed. And he's one of the guys that DOESN'T like them.

    His only argument against them is that: "They're new, and we don't know much about their metal quality, so we'll have to see how they hold up after someone puts 10,000 rounds through them.
     
  4. Neckshot5seven

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    Yea, that is what seperates nice steel from the Alien Super Alloy. I really dont plan to shoot that much, Just enough to break it in and get a feel for it. And some here and there to stay proficiant. I will use it for Carry except in times when Im in a plain white tee and shorts with flops. Then my Charter Arms undercover 2" is IWB. I have heard nothing first hand. A lot of stuff came from a guy who I knows brother in law storys. not saying they are perfect and every one is a gem, but mine is great. Im sure even the most expensive has had some sort of Lemon go out the door at some point in time.
     
  5. tomh1426

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    I got a pt1911ss in February and have put over 5000 rounds through it with NO problems at all, Still feels as tight as the day I got it.
    It has a great trigger, works with all my mags, eats anything I feed it and shoots just as good as my S&W 1911.
    Even people that dont like Taurus seem to like the pt1911 and pt92.
     
  6. TimboKhan

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    The PT1911 is a good pistol, at a reasonable cost. I wouldn't take any other 1911 over mine.
     
  7. RX-178

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    I'd also like to add that anybody who doesn't think that 10,000 rounds is a lot of use for ANY handgun, is just plain spoiled on HK and Glock reliability propaganda. :neener:
     
  8. nick295

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    Extractor broke on mine at about 5k rounds. Now I do really like this pistol as a range gun, great stock trigger and accuracy but I just couldn't use it as a defensive gun.
     
  9. TimboKhan

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    Are you being serious?
     
  10. LawofThirds

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    Why pray tell, would you not use this as a defensive gun? Honestly, the three most important excluding factors in choosing a defensive gun are (as I understand it) reliability, controllability and "stopping power". If a gun has all three then there's no reason why it shouldn't/couldn't be used in a "combative" role.
     
  11. greener

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    I've had one for a year. I've fired about 2500 rounds through it (I'm not much of a bullet counter). I shoot in caliber rotation (different caliber every week) so it gets fired every third week. The only problem I have with the pistol is figuring out the die settings when I started to reload. Apparently mine has a tight chamber because cartridges that worked in a Kimber wouldn't fit the Taurus. Once I got the die setting correct I've had no problems.

    My PT1911 fires accurately. I've had no problems with any commercial ammo and now have no problems with my reloads. I have zero concerns with carrying it or HD. I pull the trigger, it goes bang and the next round chambers. I'm also pretty sure when I pull the trigger the bullet will go where I'm pointing the pistol.

    My son and son-in-law gave me a hard time because I bought a Taurus, until they fired the PT1911. Both were duly impressed.

    Is the PT1911 better than a Kimber? Maybe not. I do know that I've out shot guys who were bragging about their Kimbers (usually starts with how much they paid). I also loaned mine at the range to a Kimber owner who thought the PT1911 would be a great starter pistol for his son (price). The kid bought a PT1911 and says he likes it better than his dad's Kimber.
     
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    Well,

    Looks like Taurus has gotten its act together, but after being buffaloed on 7 of their previous products, there won't be an eighth time. Glad it's working out for you!
     
  13. XDKingslayer

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    No, Taurus hasn't gotten their act together. They just pay more attention to the 1911s than their other guns it seems. Still, stupid stuff still manages to slip by as seen here. And they haven't changed their customer service one iota so you still have that negative.

    Every PT-1911 that I've shot or a buddy has owned/shot has been great pistol. No problems, reliable and impressively accurate.

    I keep seeing a lot of reports of broken ambi safeties though. I was worried about that on my father's but he replaced the ambi safety when he put the Crimson Trace grips on.
     
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    The only problem I have with mine is it hangs up on the ejection port when clearing ball ammo. HPs no problem. Someday Ill get it fixed. Overall Im pretty impressed but I still wouldnt pay the price they seem to be going for new now.


    -Tsi
     
  15. XDKingslayer

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    Yep. They've quickly become over-priced. Honestly, you shouldn't be paying over $450.00 for a blued model.

    But, if I was looking for a cheap 1911 with decent options I get the RIA Tactical over the Taurus.
     
  16. Neckshot5seven

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    I have seen this too on cheap winchester usa brand 230 grain hardball. Only once in a while does it do this. I went through a few mags of this stuff, cycling the pistol by hand. The ones that hung in the ejection port were set aside and later compared to the ones that came out A-OK. I measured OAL of the ones that hung and they were way too long, as if the bullet was not seated deep enough. This is to be expected for bottom of the barrell Winchester white box. I only came across this with these bullets.
     
  17. Technosavant

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    Got one. Like it. It had some light primer strike issues right out of the box, but the gun shop had a good gunsmith get it right. The grips stink and the screw heads are oversize, but that was easy enough to fix.

    Now after a few hundred rounds down the barrel it is my chosen house gun. While I'm not sure that the PT1911 is as good as a S&W or a Springfield (the fit and finish just isn't quite as nice), it is a quite competent gun and I have no problems recommending it to somebody looking for a high featured budget 1911.
     
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    People are so hung up on the features of the Taurus. Everyone thinks they need all this crap on a 1911 when in the end you don't The Taurus is a feature laden low end gun. It is full of MIM parts and Taurus is inconistent in its fit and finish. The finish on these guns suck. They wear very quickly.

    I have heard of lots of ambi safeties shearing off. I have also seen many reports of high round count guns becoming rather loose. Much looser than they shipped from the factory. Not that a little rattle in a 1911 is a a death nail. To me this is a sign that the construction and metal hardness may not hold up over time.

    People seem to like them but in the end they are what they are. With the price rising I quickly see them loosing momentum.

    I personally think the RIA tactical and then the STI Spartan are better guns.

    [​IMG]

    I recently have purchased 3 1911s that I would consider better guns for the money. First is an 80 series Colt NIB $550 then a Colt Series 70 NIB $650 and then a used Colt MKIV tutone with a beavertail and FLGR at $650.

    To me for the extra $50 or for $50 less I got a better 1911 than the Taurus. :)
     
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    It's a smart guy behind a counter who is so honest about his complaints on something, rather than delving into the hype.

    I've toyed with the Taurus, but for just a titch more money, I can get better product around here. Varies from place to place, I'm sure, but for around here, it's less of an awesome deal than in other places.
     
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    It's always going to be the better car arguement...Ford vs. Chevy Corvette Vs. Viper....Caddy vs. Lincoln.

    I can drive a 'vette to the grocery store or I can drive a neon. I get there just the same with the Neon at a much cheaper price than the 'vette. Is it fun to drive the 'vette (Kimber SIS), you bet. IS it fun to drive the neon (Taurus) down the same twisty road, sure, just not as much status. Both get you where your going, which is staying alive out there.

    I carry my Taurus PT1911 daily, totally trust it, probably will never shoot 5000 rounds through it.

    I was an LEO for many years and doubt I ever shot that many rounds anyway.

    Even with cheap .45 ammo that's still $1400.00. I'm too por for that.
     
  21. DrLaw

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    It isn't???

    I thought that was an added feature! I already have some tenderloins to slice up! :banghead: What am I going to do now with mine? Shoot it? :rolleyes:

    By the way, asking for no flames here is like tossing a cigarette out of a window in California and not expecting to hear about a new wildfire on the news at night. I haven't seen as much vitriol as there has been against Taurus 1911's as against any other 1911's. Only the Hi-Points, Brycos and Jennings seem to draw more flames.

    It's either blazing hot or frozen cold as to how people feel about the PT1911. No middle ground to be found. Amazing.

    The Doc is out now. :cool:
     
  22. Top_Notch

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    My SA Loaded in stainless was under 7 bills, has a lot of nice features, and is 100% reliable. Great that you love your Taurus, but be careful how you state it.
     
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    Taurus has had enough issues with other guns that I'd look elsewhere. They discontinued their problem-plagued SAA.
    For not much more money, you can get a better gun.
     
  24. presspuller

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    The PT1911 is the ONLY taurus pistol that I have not heard (or seen) bad things about.
    I do not own one but from what you and others have told me maybe they got their act together on this one.
    Its about time. They have put out a lot of junk over the years.
     
  25. Technosavant

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    I'd agree that is Taurus jacks the price much at all the PT1911 looks far less attractive. If a PT1911 is $500 and a SA Loaded is $750+, the SA is worth the money and I'd personally spend it. If the PT1911 is within $150, I can't imagine recommending the PT1911 at all.

    The PT1911 does have a theoretically better frame and slide; forged instead of cast (yes, cast shoots well, so it's like I said- theoretically, like tool steel parts are theoretically better than MIM, but in practice there isn't much difference if MIM was done right). It's definitely worth a look if a person is trying to keep the price under $600ish. So are the RIA and the Spartan. It's up to each person as to what they want and what they're looking for. But as with most things, there's a quality gap between that price level and what you get for another couple Franklins.
     
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