Pulled over today for first time while carrying.

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You Handled It JUST RIGHT

You did fine. You were polite, and the other officer obviously was more attuned to having more than one-way interaction. Good for you. The more positive encounters that officers have with CCW permit holders, the better.
 
i'm confused about the ohio permits. you have a concealed permit but it has to stay locked away while you're in your car? how are you supposed to get to it to protect yourself if necessary?

It doesn't have to be locked up if it's in a holster and on your person.

I only had it locked up in the glove box because I can't carry at work, and was just going up the road for a pack of smokes on a break. I was in a hurry and didn't take the time to unlock it and put it on my belt for such a short trip and have to take it right back off. If it was up to me I'd never take it off.
 
Also, in Texas, and I'm sure any other state, a CHL (by statute) is automatic probable cause to search your vehicle.

I don't think that is correct. I've read the statutes on Texas concealed carry and can't find anything to indicate that CHL gives the officer PC. If anyone would know, the guys at Texas State Rifle Association would. http://www.tsra.com/?p=page&id=1

Speaking of stop and seizure law in Texas, the courts ruled a couple of years ago that the police may legally arrest and book you for even class C misdemeanors. Arresting the driver and having the vehicle towed means the officer would get to conduct a search incident to the impounding of the vehicle. This raises the question as to whether any search in Texas is really voluntary.

Let's say that you get pulled over for speeding or not wearing your seat belt. Office asks you whether you mind if he searches your car. If you say that you mind, then he can arrest you for the speeding or seat belt, then search your car anyway.

I don't begrudge good officers for doing the job that we hire them to do, but I think that courts got it wrong, and hope that our representatives amend the laws to prevent the threat of being dragged down to jail on a class C.
 
Also, in Texas, and I'm sure any other state, a CHL (by statute) is automatic probable cause to search your vehicle.
This assumption happens to be very false. I cannot speak for other states without research, but I can say in Louisiana this is patently untrue.

Texas law that may be relevant:
TGC 411.205:

If you are asked by a law enforcement officer to show ID (as in a traffic stop), you are REQUIRED to volunteer that fact you are armed by showing your CHL along with driver's license. When they run your DL, it will show if you have a Texas Resident CHL, so they WILL find out. DPS says the first time you fail to show a CHL, you license 'may' be suspended for 90 days, the second time, 3 years and the third time it may be revoked. (I do not think they are enforcing this rigorously.) The third time 'might' be a Class B misdemeanor but the 2nd time would not. A Class B would result in an automatic revocation which costs your CHL for 5 years.

§46.15 NONAPPLICABILITY.

(a) Sections 46.02 and § 46.03 do not apply to: (3) People traveling;

§46.15 (i)

(i) For purposes of Subsection (b)(3), a person is presumed to be traveling if the person is:
(1) in a private motor vehicle;
(2) not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic;
(3) not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing a firearm;
(4) not a member of a criminal street gang, as defined by Section 71.01; and
(5) not carrying a handgun in plain view.

§46.15 NONAPPLICABILITY.

(a) Sections 46.02 and § 46.03 do not apply to: (3) People traveling;

§46.15 (i)

(i) For purposes of Subsection (b)(3), a person is presumed to be traveling if the person is:
(1) in a private motor vehicle;
(2) not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic;
(3) not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing a firearm;
(4) not a member of a criminal street gang, as defined by Section 71.01; and
(5) not carrying a handgun in plain view.

Source
 
CCW stops

I can't say I was stopped as I was parked at the side of the road when a state trooper pulled up behind me to see what was going on.

I spent half an hour sitting in the patrol car while he was checking me out. Long converstaions on both his radio and his cell phone while he was standing behind the patrol car.

Then he sent me on my way. But I got to wondering later, what's the point of the CWP? if they are going to do a complete background check why bother with the CWP? I thought the point of it was to show that all that back ground checking had already been done.
 
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Here they will disarm you and check the serial # of the gun against what's on the permit. We don't have to inform them here but it does come up when they check.
 
Here they will disarm you and check the serial # of the gun against what's on the permit.

In Ohio our guns are not linked to our permit. We don't have to tell them what gun we have at all to get our permits. The city of Dayton does have a gun owner registration I beleive. Not sure if it's gun specific or just that you own one, but I don't live in the city so I don't have to worry about it anyway.
 
Every LEO here will tell you that the random traffic stop is one of the most potentially dangerous situations they face. I dont see the need to exacerbate the problem by shoutintg, " I'm packing heat," or some other equally disturbing announcement to that effect.

It's knee jerk BS on the part of legislators that makes it a requirement, anyway. Part of their "Mommy, May I?" mentality. Of course, being a good law-abider, you are going top tell him and rightly so. Discretion was the better part of valor in this case.
 
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