jmorris
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Pump-action rifle?
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earlthegoat2
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It’s true there are only a few options and for all intents and purposes the 760/7600 line is the only one. The Browning is rare. The Savage 340 is uncommon. I think that Savage came in 30-30 and 35 Remington.
Im a fan of the pump rifles. If you stick to the 7600 models and not the 760s you will be doing yourself a few favors. The three lug bolt instead of the three rows of three bolts of the 760 is a documented advantage. The stock shape and profile of the 760 favored iron sights and made recoil harsher. The chamber was either higher polished or chromed in 7600s. All the problems of the 760s that gave pump rifles their mediocre reputation were fixed definitively in the 7600.
They are expensive for what they are but they are not a Ruger American or Savage Axis. They are a rifle made with mostly machined steel and with the exception of the ones that come with synthetic stocks, have very little plastic parts. The plastic trigger group came in the nineties just like on the 870s but that has never been a documented disadvantage.
I have a 7615 223 police carbine and a 7600 30-06 carbine. Both are accurate and capable rifles. They do rattle a bit. That is something that can be fixed. The triggers aren’t the best even with the Timney trigger fix.
Also these are hunting rifles first. Not high volume plinkers or tactical bullet hoses. I would leave the larger capacity magazines where they lay.
Unfortunately since Remington folded the price of all these have effectively doubled. The 7615 has tripled. Future production is uncertain I would say since they really only sell in the northeast. Apparently old Remington sold enough of them to keep building them. Used, they were quite a bargain. Not these days. New, they were never worth the price to me and I like them a lot.
Im a fan of the pump rifles. If you stick to the 7600 models and not the 760s you will be doing yourself a few favors. The three lug bolt instead of the three rows of three bolts of the 760 is a documented advantage. The stock shape and profile of the 760 favored iron sights and made recoil harsher. The chamber was either higher polished or chromed in 7600s. All the problems of the 760s that gave pump rifles their mediocre reputation were fixed definitively in the 7600.
They are expensive for what they are but they are not a Ruger American or Savage Axis. They are a rifle made with mostly machined steel and with the exception of the ones that come with synthetic stocks, have very little plastic parts. The plastic trigger group came in the nineties just like on the 870s but that has never been a documented disadvantage.
I have a 7615 223 police carbine and a 7600 30-06 carbine. Both are accurate and capable rifles. They do rattle a bit. That is something that can be fixed. The triggers aren’t the best even with the Timney trigger fix.
Also these are hunting rifles first. Not high volume plinkers or tactical bullet hoses. I would leave the larger capacity magazines where they lay.
Unfortunately since Remington folded the price of all these have effectively doubled. The 7615 has tripled. Future production is uncertain I would say since they really only sell in the northeast. Apparently old Remington sold enough of them to keep building them. Used, they were quite a bargain. Not these days. New, they were never worth the price to me and I like them a lot.
Gordon
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Probably a Remington 7600 .308 with 10 round mags or the .223 Police version with AR mags and a good Optic like a 4x Trig 
commygun
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Had the 7600 carbine in 30.06 and it was actually a pretty fearsome little rifle for open-sight brush country deer hunting. I imagine it would make a very serviceable, if overpowered, self-defense weapon as well. Certainly much faster to shoot accurately with than any bolt gun I’ve manipulated.
Got a couple 10-round magazines from CDNN for it ( this was probably 15-20 years ago). Very well made but wouldn’t function properly with more than 6 rounds in the magazine.
Got a couple 10-round magazines from CDNN for it ( this was probably 15-20 years ago). Very well made but wouldn’t function properly with more than 6 rounds in the magazine.
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^ my first thought was with a barrel swap to something like 350L would be neat, make it like a pump 357 max.
Would be more useful to me, I think the laws would have to change before I spent the money on one and if they did, it would likely effect the magazine capacity anyway.
I suppose if the laws changed enough to push me to want one, I’d probably be too busy making the 6 parts to convert an AR to pump action so I didn’t have to destroy all the ones I have.
The bentwood conversion made it look easy. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/07/11/umos-universal-manual-operating-system-pump/
Would be more useful to me, I think the laws would have to change before I spent the money on one and if they did, it would likely effect the magazine capacity anyway.
I suppose if the laws changed enough to push me to want one, I’d probably be too busy making the 6 parts to convert an AR to pump action so I didn’t have to destroy all the ones I have.
The bentwood conversion made it look easy. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/07/11/umos-universal-manual-operating-system-pump/
wiscoaster
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I'm afraid we might be seeing a lot of those AR pump-action conversions in the future.
dranrab
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Probably a Remington 7600 .308 with 10 round mags or the .223 Police version with AR mags and a good Optic like a 4x Trig
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I always thought that gun in a stainless 338 Federal would make an ideal "guide gun."
earlthegoat2
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That one is not in your ballpark if the BPR also is not.
The Rem 7600s of all types have exploded since the Remington implosion. Limited production and out of productions versions like my 7615 tripled in value and 7600Ps have too. 1500-2000 will take it home.
They will probably come down in a few years though regardless of what happens to Remington production.
I would try to find a standard rifle length version and then do whatever you want for barrel length since those are the most affordable currently.
Cant run pumps in some countries it seems, proly mandates actions operated by trigger hand.
Ol Franz piled a lot of pork w a straight pull too ( Merkel Helix ). I cant recall if he ran a Blaser or not.
tark
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I'll second that. No bolt action can match a good pump for speed.....with the possible exception of a well trained Tommy executing his "Mad Minute" drill.
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If you are not looking for practicality I would go with a Lightning clone. Like someone else mentioned, Uberti makes one.
Yes, the 760 stocks are low comb. You can switch them to 7600 style.
You can also run the original w a Weaver base and low Burris Zee rings. Mine wears a VX1 2-7x and the rear sight didnt need removed.
Not that it is being used, but keeping it on the gun means it proly wont get lost LOL.
I could maybe add a slight stick on comb riser but dont think it needs it. Late season hunting wearing a facemask, its about perfect.
You can also run the original w a Weaver base and low Burris Zee rings. Mine wears a VX1 2-7x and the rear sight didnt need removed.
Not that it is being used, but keeping it on the gun means it proly wont get lost LOL.
I could maybe add a slight stick on comb riser but dont think it needs it. Late season hunting wearing a facemask, its about perfect.
My brother is one of those guys. I'm not and usually end up being faster with a pump. If I remember to rack the slide
One of my left handed son's has a 7600 in 30-06. Its a decent hunting rifle, minute and a half with a decent trigger. The only down side, IMO, is that the action must be worked rough to assure reliable functioning and likewise, magazines must be inserted smartly to securely latch into place. Both of these issues will probably improve with use. Unfortunately it doesn't get shot much; this year one round took a nice 8 point.
This thread was interesting to me, as it opened up a whole new dimension as to having multiple, easily swapped barrels for your 7600.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/remington-7600-caliber-change.767677/
Unfortunately Lumley is no longer making the brackets.
This thread was interesting to me, as it opened up a whole new dimension as to having multiple, easily swapped barrels for your 7600.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/remington-7600-caliber-change.767677/
Unfortunately Lumley is no longer making the brackets.
WisBorn
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This thread reminded me of the Remington Model Six. It was a deluxe version of the 7600 made from 1981 to 1988. Very nice rifle and nice looking. Just a thought.
As has been recommended, the Remington 7615 is my recommendation for a pump action rifle (if you can find one).
This is a 10 shot 200 yard group I fired with mine using a $40.00 Bushnell scope that came on it and Russian steel cased ammo.
Fast handling and extremely reliable, it used to be cheap to shoot.
Hopefully one day ammo prices will settle down but till then it’s reloads for mine.
This is a 10 shot 200 yard group I fired with mine using a $40.00 Bushnell scope that came on it and Russian steel cased ammo.
Fast handling and extremely reliable, it used to be cheap to shoot.
Hopefully one day ammo prices will settle down but till then it’s reloads for mine.
wiscoaster
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Ha ha .. about par for the course, these days!!
DocRock
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There's the reverse pump action Krieghoff Semprio:
wiscoaster
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Wow, now that's an interesting rifle!! I'm going to have to see if Ian did a full-length video on that. Thanks for the link...
earlthegoat2
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I am unsure what is used for a barrel extension by them but this gunsmith will make you a switch barrel 7600.
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I am unsure but Hillbilly Custom Rifles will do rebarrels for 7600s. Not sure if they do switch barrels. This one only has a FB page.
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