Quality carry gun
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Marshall
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That's it! I am starting tomorrow with concealed rocks in my pocket. 
goalie
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I am going to be thinking more about the $10,000 or so my lawyer is going to be making than I am about the firearm.
And I'll be happy to spend that ten grand, because it's in the bank and I'm alive to get it out and give it to someone else.
And I'll be happy to spend that ten grand, because it's in the bank and I'm alive to get it out and give it to someone else.
denfoote
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I have given this conundrum some thought and have come to several conclusions.
I have had the misfortune of having my firearms confiscated by the local constabulary. (for my own safety and protection, of course
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It took a call to my attorney, a long restless night in a gang infested neighborhood, several weeks, and a hand written court order from the presiding judge, hand delivered by my attorney to the department in question to get them back. This, after the case in question was dismissed!!
1) I have decided that I will carry whatever I choose to carry for my defense. Sometimes that is an inexpensive Kel-Tec, mostly it's a Glock of some sort.
2) The cost of the weapon is immaterial where the safety and protection of my family is concerned.
3) If the local Gendarmes seize and eventually keep my weapon, then so be it. That's part of the cost of staying alive!!!
4) If, as in the case mentioned above, I force the local Gestapo to return my property, then "happy day"!! I will instruct my attorney to cause that outcome with all due haste after the case has been settled!!
Just my humble thoughts on the matter!!
I have had the misfortune of having my firearms confiscated by the local constabulary. (for my own safety and protection, of course
)It took a call to my attorney, a long restless night in a gang infested neighborhood, several weeks, and a hand written court order from the presiding judge, hand delivered by my attorney to the department in question to get them back. This, after the case in question was dismissed!!
1) I have decided that I will carry whatever I choose to carry for my defense. Sometimes that is an inexpensive Kel-Tec, mostly it's a Glock of some sort.
2) The cost of the weapon is immaterial where the safety and protection of my family is concerned.
3) If the local Gendarmes seize and eventually keep my weapon, then so be it. That's part of the cost of staying alive!!!
4) If, as in the case mentioned above, I force the local Gestapo to return my property, then "happy day"!! I will instruct my attorney to cause that outcome with all due haste after the case has been settled!!
Just my humble thoughts on the matter!!
farscott
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I look at carry pistols as expendable items, much like pickup trucks. If I can sink $30K into a new pickup every ten years, I can sink $2.5K into a new carry pistol every year or so (the time it takes my smith to craft me a new one), and another $5K for accessories and training. That way I have a dedicated system in place. After all, my family is the important issue.
The pistol itself is just a tool, and tools can be replaced. If the pistol is used, I fully expect I will never see it again outside of a court room -- and I really do not care. I have two others just like it that are ready to go. If I get the pistol back, that is an unexpected bonus -- and it will go off to the smith to be rebuilt. So any scratches added by the police or other government employees are really no concern.
What does bother me is the possibility that a customized pistol may be a liability in a civil trial. So I have been leaning towards customization that is purely functional and for the most part internal.
The pistol itself is just a tool, and tools can be replaced. If the pistol is used, I fully expect I will never see it again outside of a court room -- and I really do not care. I have two others just like it that are ready to go. If I get the pistol back, that is an unexpected bonus -- and it will go off to the smith to be rebuilt. So any scratches added by the police or other government employees are really no concern.
What does bother me is the possibility that a customized pistol may be a liability in a civil trial. So I have been leaning towards customization that is purely functional and for the most part internal.
Harvey
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You present a most reasoned argument in a curious debate, ssr, and I fully agree. The pistol I carry. - .albeit a tricked-out Colt Officer's Ultimate, worth a couple grand . - .is the one with which I practice, train and compete.
Why would anyone ever consider carrying anything less comforting (for fear of economic loss, no less) in a potentially dangerous world? I guess at some point we need to trust something with our lives. And for me, it'd be my pretty Colt ... not a cheaper surrogate to my most familiar and trustworthy companion.
SwampWolf
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I agree entirely, farscott. The very likelyhood of having to use a pistol to defend my life or that of a loved one is super thin at best and I'm not going to compromise what I shoot best (be it cheap or expensive) just because I'm worrying about an event that most probably will never happen in the first place. And, in the unlikely event that I do have to use my pistol to shoot somebody in self-defense, the very last thing I'll have to fret about during the aftermath of said shooting is the final disposition of my pet pistol.
personally i wouldn't carry a 3k peice but that's how i am. i would rather spend that same amount and have a couple glocks, xd's, m&p's, and hk's than spend that for one handgun. there are too many quality defense suitable handguns that i'd love to have to spend that kind of change on one.
Ala Dan
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Well folk's, I have seen what happens to both inexpensive and expensive
pistols used in crimes; whereas someone was shot, as well as where NO
shots were fired but a crime was committed. Our local judgeship had a
bad habit of condeming them to the firey furance. I'm speaking of guns
from Arminus revolvers to 3K custom semi-auto's. Our old judge had NO
LOVE for firearms; as he only saw his view - of what bodily harm they
could do~! On many occassions, I begged and pleaded with him too
send several confiscated handguns to the police academy, too be
used in training by new recruits. My voice fell on deaf ears~!
Now, to the subject of what I carry. NO, I hardly ever carry my 5"
LB Thunder Ranch Special; as it only see's range duty. NO, I don't
even carry my Kimber Stainless Ultra II anymore. Most of the time,
I can be seen carring a Kahr CW-9; backed up by a KEL-TEC P3AT
.380 auto, or a Smith J-frame .38 of some sort.
pistols used in crimes; whereas someone was shot, as well as where NO
shots were fired but a crime was committed. Our local judgeship had a
bad habit of condeming them to the firey furance. I'm speaking of guns
from Arminus revolvers to 3K custom semi-auto's. Our old judge had NO
LOVE for firearms; as he only saw his view - of what bodily harm they
could do~! On many occassions, I begged and pleaded with him too
send several confiscated handguns to the police academy, too be
used in training by new recruits. My voice fell on deaf ears~!
Now, to the subject of what I carry. NO, I hardly ever carry my 5"
LB Thunder Ranch Special; as it only see's range duty. NO, I don't
even carry my Kimber Stainless Ultra II anymore. Most of the time,
I can be seen carring a Kahr CW-9; backed up by a KEL-TEC P3AT
.380 auto, or a Smith J-frame .38 of some sort.
MCgunner
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I carry a gun that's very accurate and goes bang every time. None of my carries cost me more'n 300 dollars, though the main two, that's 1996 dollars. I had my P11 seized and got it back 8 months later when the case was dismissed. The locals were kind to it, but frankly, it's got so much holster wear, it'd be hard to scratch and actually notice. But, it shoots straight and always goes bang and that's what matters.
But, it shoots straight and always goes bang and that's what matters.BullfrogKen
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Old thread brought back to life, huh?
I've got no mental reservations carrying my high value guns. I put money into them to make them do their job well. Why leave it at home?
I've got no mental reservations carrying my high value guns. I put money into them to make them do their job well. Why leave it at home?
armoredman
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Holy ressurected thread, Batman!
I have duplicates that will do the job, joys of using quality affordable sidearms. If I lose my $600CZ P01 with $300 Crimson Trace Lasergrips to the evidence room because I just used it in successful self defense, then I just got my money's worth, regardless if it comes back or not. I want the gun back, of course, but the investment will have paid off at that point.
As for police shooting my evidence guns, just don't break 'em, and I have no issues with it. Enjoy, let me have mine back and ask questions, maybe I can make a convert.
I have duplicates that will do the job, joys of using quality affordable sidearms. If I lose my $600CZ P01 with $300 Crimson Trace Lasergrips to the evidence room because I just used it in successful self defense, then I just got my money's worth, regardless if it comes back or not. I want the gun back, of course, but the investment will have paid off at that point.
As for police shooting my evidence guns, just don't break 'em, and I have no issues with it. Enjoy, let me have mine back and ask questions, maybe I can make a convert.
Going bang every time is infinitely more important than anything else when your life is between you and the primer and next round cycling properly.
I'm in the same position as most of you in that I really hope I never have to use this fire extinguisher, but I know it will work if and when I need it.
I'm in the same position as most of you in that I really hope I never have to use this fire extinguisher, but I know it will work if and when I need it.
flipajig
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I have 2 carry guns one is a Ruger P95 in 9mm and the other is a Ruger LCR in 38spc
my $3000 pistol sits in the safe its a TC contender. both of my carry guns are shooters
not to be looked at. although my TC is a shooter too.
my $3000 pistol sits in the safe its a TC contender. both of my carry guns are shooters
not to be looked at. although my TC is a shooter too.
MCgunner
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Don't want these threads coming out of moth balls? Delete 'em or lock 'em.
Marshall
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This thread is so old that I didn't even remember replying to it. Ok, maybe it's me that's getting old. 
I say Jim has a good point for those that loosing a high dollar gun would effectively bother.
Me? I'll highly doubt I'll ever carry a gun that expensive anyway so it doesn't matter. For one, there's too many great accurate/reliable sub-$800.00 guns out there for me to have the need to spend that kind of $ on a carry weapon. I think the post is great food for thought to those that have never considered the possibility. For those that have and want to carry that expensive of a handgun, that's great too.
I say Jim has a good point for those that loosing a high dollar gun would effectively bother.
Me? I'll highly doubt I'll ever carry a gun that expensive anyway so it doesn't matter. For one, there's too many great accurate/reliable sub-$800.00 guns out there for me to have the need to spend that kind of $ on a carry weapon. I think the post is great food for thought to those that have never considered the possibility. For those that have and want to carry that expensive of a handgun, that's great too.
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Going on six years old...Nice job.
searcher451
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My view is that if you buy and then carry the right firearm to begin with, you won't have to deck it out and spend a couple of grand or more on it; that way, you won't have to worry about that rara avis mentioned by the OP six years ago.
FoMoGo
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I dont see a problem with bringing a thread back up that has good points and views.
I dont carry high dollar guns, I carry lower priced guns with high reliability and accuracy.
Jim
I dont carry high dollar guns, I carry lower priced guns with high reliability and accuracy.
Jim
Deaf Smith
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I perfer a bit jazzed up Glock 26 for carry.
Bowie Tactical Concepts grip reduction.
Hinnie strait eight night sights.
NY-1 trigger.
And that's that.
Add to it ANOTHER Glock 26 with AACK .22 unit for practice ONLY and you have the CCW setup you can become very good with. I mean VERY good with.
Cost? I paid $425 for that Glock 26 with BTC reduction and night sights! Added the NY-1 trigger myself. Then $450 for the seond 26 I bought many years ago. The AACK unit, with 4 mags, cost around $300.
That's $1175, and far less than those fancy custom guns.
I've used these for years and they are as reliable as any fancy custom gun (and I've owned a few of them to!)
Deaf
Bowie Tactical Concepts grip reduction.
Hinnie strait eight night sights.
NY-1 trigger.
And that's that.
Add to it ANOTHER Glock 26 with AACK .22 unit for practice ONLY and you have the CCW setup you can become very good with. I mean VERY good with.
Cost? I paid $425 for that Glock 26 with BTC reduction and night sights! Added the NY-1 trigger myself. Then $450 for the seond 26 I bought many years ago. The AACK unit, with 4 mags, cost around $300.
That's $1175, and far less than those fancy custom guns.
I've used these for years and they are as reliable as any fancy custom gun (and I've owned a few of them to!)
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