Quality of Tula ammo?

[meanmrmustard]

I think it is.

I'll be sure to remember your position on this the next time AR15 manufacturers become a point of contention/comparison, though.

I'm a little under 700 rounds into my new AR15. That's 20+ magazines (at 30 rounds each) without any kind of hiccup whatsoever...and I'd still like to get more through it before really coming to any definitive conclusion. If it had 2 malfunctions (or even 1, honestly) during that time I would be quite unhappy.

Please reread my post before assuming I find that amount of malfunctions acceptable. And what that has to do with manufacturers means nothing; I don't use steel in ARs, period. I don't trust any of them enough to warrant the use of straight walled steel cartridges, they're just too fragile of a design.

You'd have seen I agreed with your point had you not been so quick to argue, again. It doesn't matter if its the tenth mag or any one after the hundredth; if you take the chance to use a steel cased cartridge in a rifle that DOESN'T like it, you risk failure at a pivotal moment.

Does that explain my point? Or do we need, yet again, to throw gauntlets? All things man made at some point WILL fail. Period.

 

[Warp]

Please reread my post before assuming I find that amount of malfunctions acceptable. And what that has to do with manufacturers means nothing; I don't use steel in ARs, period. I don't trust any of them enough to warrant the use of straight walled steel cartridges, they're just too fragile of a design.

You'd have seen I agreed with your point had you not been so quick to argue, again. It doesn't matter if its the tenth mag or any one after the hundredth; if you take the chance to use a steel cased cartridge in a rifle that DOESN'T like it, you risk failure at a pivotal moment.

Does that explain my point? Or do we need, yet again, to throw gauntlets? All things man made at some point WILL fail. Period.

You explained your point. I went back and read through everything again, making sure to note when the count guy was posting and when you were posting (conversations were intertwined, and I generally pay very little attention to WHO I am talking to, rather than what is being said)

We seem to be in agreement

 

[meanmrmustard]

You explained your point. I went back and read through everything again, making sure to note when the count guy was posting and when you were posting (conversations were intertwined, and I generally pay very little attention to WHO I am talking to, rather than what is being said)

We seem to be in agreement

Indeed we are.

 

[carbine85]

If I'm not mistaken Wolf and Tulammo may or may not be the same product. Tula makes ammo for several importers and Wolf buys from several manufacturers. Some of the Tula ammo in production now are getting great good reviews.

 

[Swampman]

Quote:
"OTOH I bought some 9mm labeled "9mm Luger Sport" JSC NOVOSIBIRSK CARTRIDGE PLANT 30A Stantsionnaya Street NOVOSIBIRSK, Russia. Copper plated steel cases, copper plated lead with steel core bullets. Both bullets and primers are sealed. Shoots like +P. No problems."

Pablo,
Are you sure those are steel core bullets and not just copper washed steel jackets? Importing steel core handgun ammo for sale to the general public is a MAJOR Federal no no.

 

[gotboostvr]

I've had more ammo related problems with PMC bronze in various calibers than I've had in twice as many rounds of Tula in just as many calibers. It's about all that one of my 9mm's get and I've shot a good amount of it through my BCM for up close practice. Never a jam in my AR, and I'm more inclined to blame the mag for the one jam in my 2nd gen smith and Wesson. I had a failure to feed on the first round ever out of a 25 rd promag. Hasn't hiccuped since on Tula. Blazer aluminum though is a different story.

 

[OilyPablo]

Pablo,
Are you sure those are steel core bullets and not just copper washed steel jackets? Importing steel core handgun ammo for sale to the general public is a MAJOR Federal no no.

You might have a point. They are super magnetic and I did not cut into one. Odd though, I did have some Chinese 9mm ammo that was steel core for sure - I didn't know it was another crazy firearm/ammo law non-no!

 

[Swampman]

I can't recall exactly when the ban on AP handgun ammo went into effect, but back in the 80s I used to buy Czech steel core, steel jacketed 9mm by the case. I can't recall exactly what the prices were, but it was dirt cheap, enough so that as a poor college student, I'd sometimes shoot a couple hundred rounds a day.

It's been a while since they imported much ammo from China, what you had was probably pre ban.

In any case, it's still legal under Federal law for civilians to possess legally imported or manufactured AP handgun ammo. Just make darn sure you don't commit any crimes while in possession of it!

 

[Shootenbulls]

I run what ever I can get for a low price out of both my glock and del-ton ar, which 90% of the time is walmart bought tula, I never have had a failure of any kind. As for accuracy not sure if can render a real fact as if it is or is not. I am by no means a competitive gun shooter, only a recreational shooter. I am far more concerned in hitting a human siloutte target for defense purpose, and it does that just fine for me. I spend far more fine tuning my target archery rig to stress myself over another shooting sport, not to mention my wife would probably have me commited or kick me out. JMHO

 

[TechBrute]

Two boxes of .380: 3 failures to fire, one failure to feed. Guns were Keltec and Kahr.
Six boxes of 9mm: 1 failure to fire. Guns were Glock and M&P.
One box of 9mm: around 10-15 failures to feed. Gun was Glock.
All of it: nasty. Seemed (subjectively) dirtier than the usual WWB, PMC, etc.

I guess I'm just a statistical outlier, since all these people have shot "thousands of rounds" without any problems.

My experience is that when people buy stuff, they will defend it on the Internet, regardless, because no one wants to buy turds. So, of course whatever they buy is great.

The above is my own personal experience on two different range sessions with 5 different guns, two shooters.

 

[wally]

My experience is that when people buy stuff, they will defend it on the Internet, regardless, because no one wants to buy turds

Yup, my Glock failed, must be that the ammo is crap!

Shoot what you want, and assume your gun is fine if it fails with "cheap" ammo, but if you survive the first month of TEOTWAWKI you'll be thrilled to find ammo as "good" as Tula or Wolf.

The "Box of Truth" thought 9mm Wolf was the best of the cheap ammo: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu6.htm

 

[primalmu]

I just shot 2 boxes of TulAmmo through my new CZ75. The only issue I had was a single stove pipe in the first mag. I'll gladly buy it for practice, especially since, for me, its as accurate as anything I've shot (though I'm sure that my mediocre skills do more damage to my accuracy at the moment than ammo quality).

 

[zoom6zoom]

Just ran 100 rounds of Tula 223 through my SIG551A1, not a problem to be seen. It prefers 62 grain for accuracy, but this stuff wasn't far enough behind t make much difference.

 

[SilentScream]

I've shot thousands of rounds of Tula from 9mm to .30 Carbine and of course 7.62X39 Can't say I've ever had any kind of malfunction from it.

 

[Cee Zee]

If you just like to hear your rifle go bang then it's ok ammo. If you actually want to hit what you're shooting at then not so much. I don't use it in m .223 at all. But then my .223 is a single shot, bolt action varmint rifle. Everything cycles in that rifle but not everything will shoot a tight group at 500 yards like some other ammo I have.

 

[InkEd]

I have run thousands of rounds of Tula 9mm and a fair bit in .45acp

Theyeave your gun FILTHY but otherwise work fine enough for the price. No FTF or FTE.

 

[CornCod]

I have shot a lot of Tula 7.62X39 and 9mm. I don't recall any jams or duds. That being said I would use something else for self-defense ammo out of the 9mm. I shot the 7.62X39 out of an unconverted Saiga and a Yugo M70 clone. I shot the 9mm out of a Ruger SR-9 and a Mk. II Browning Hi-Power. Tula represents a good value for practice ammo.

 

[Sky]

I shoot the 7.62x39 Tula 123g and 154g SP in SkSs, AKs, and one AR all the time. I will say that the 154g is inconsistent at 300 yards in all the aforementioned rifles. I used to wonder if the measured their powder by volume or weight and believed they were not to particular with either method?? Rounds on target or there abouts and the next one maybe 60 yards short at 327 yards. However, out to about 125 yards the 154g is accurate enough and has enough pop to just about knock over a ford pickup ( Texas tale ) and will kill a rather large pig in his tracks within that range. I like the stuff for brush hunting and when I believe the Piggy's will be not to far and not to close but just right. Otherwise I use the trusted 5.56 if I need longer accuracy. Just my experience. The Yugo 7.62x39 was/is some of the more accurate ammo I have shot through those weapons but the supply has dried up, glad I bought a hand full a while back.