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Quick steel question

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Sniper X, Apr 27, 2009.

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  1. Sniper X

    Sniper X Member

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    So if you were to explain the costs and benefits of both 440 stainless, and carbon steel in a hunting / camping knife how would you go about it?
     
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    Assuming equal blade & edge designs.

    440C = harder to sharpen - rustproof - won't hold an edge as well.

    Carbon = tarnishes / rusts if not maintained.

    rc
     
  3. RyanM

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    Probably talking 440A, which is usually soft enough to be just as easy to sharpen as a carbon steel knife, but the edge holding is definitely worse.

    Carbon steel is also potentially cheaper, especially if you get something like a Douk-douk or Opinel. 99% of the stainless blades in the same price range are going to be 420J2 junk.
     
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    1/8" thick x 1 1/2" wide by 3 foot long:
    440C = $22
    1095 = $9.00

    (*compared to 154CM at $40 , S30v at $63 )

    440C actually will hold an edge really well if HT'd properly.Maybe not the idea camping knife for chopping , but done right , it will give you plenty of service , as will 1095 , 1080 or 52100.
     
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    Steel is only as good as the heat treatment. then you add the geometry of the blade, and your sharpening skills then you can make a judgement.

    Stay away from 440A, 440B, and most offshore stuff.

    IMO, YMMV
     
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    What would be a good carbon hunter in a 5 1/2 in blade for under about $125.00 or so? Say clip or drop point?
     
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    JTW Jr:

    I have a Puma Hunter II; made in Solingen, Germany.

    From 440C -I believe. It has a heat treat, and the Brinnel indentation to prove it.

    It is a good blade.
     
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    I have three Benchmade knives, one in 440, one in 154CM, and one in S30V (Griptilian, Ares, and Switchback, respectively). I think edge geometry played a bigger factor than steel, except perhaps the one in S30V... never used that one much as it was a little too delicate for my tastes, but i'll tell you what, that steel is a PAIN to sharpen. takes forever...(so, i suppose it also takes a while to dull...)
    the knife in 154CM cuts better than the 440, but i have it sharpened to a 38 degree edge as opposed to a 44 degree on the 440 steel...

    FWIW... haven't used either the Griptilian or Switchback in years, though. i LOVE the Ares. too bad it's discontinued.

    For a simple camp chore knife, i'd go with the carbon steel knife. if you're gonna be, say, on a saltwater fishing boat, go with the 440.

    TMM
     
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