Quigley Down Under Rifle.

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I have looked at the Pedersoli rifles and they look to be pretty well made. they may not be a Shiloh but they will be a lot cheaper and you won't have to wait to get one
 
$3000.00 !??!?! I could put a downpayment on new truck with that kind of money. Well I'm glad I found it anyway.:)
 
The NRA is running a contest right now to win the rifle Tom Selleck used in the movie. I think you have till January 1 to enter. They had it in one of the summer issues of American Rifleman. Valued the rifle at over $100k
 
Mine is the 1874 Shiloh "Quigley" 45-110 - just like in the movie. I had a little over a two year wait after I ordered it. But I've heard the waiting list isn't that long anymore seeing as how all the hoopla over the movie has died down. Nevertheless, I agree with Steveno - the Pedersoli 1874 Sharps rifles look to be well made. And they're a little less expensive too.
One thing to concider is the fact the 1874 Shilo "Quigley" with its full, heavy, 34" octogon barrel, is too heavy to be used in BPCR competition. I believe the rule is 12 pounds max, and my 45-110 goes over that by about 4 ounces.
 
Several companies make Sharps pattern rifles, including one licensed as the true Sharps company. The movie gun had a 34" barrel and was in .45-110. These guns are not cheap but if you can live with a similar if not exact copy a used Pedersoli Sharps in .45/70 can be found for $500-$700 if you look around. I see quite a few offered at GunsAmerica.com.
 
On the RARE chance that I did win the original Quigley rifle, I'd have have it hung on the wall as a collectors item. It would be too valuable to shoot.
 
Sharps Shooter said:
One thing to concider is the fact the 1874 Shilo "Quigley" with its full, heavy, 34" octogon barrel, is too heavy to be used in BPCR competition. I believe the rule is 12 pounds max, and my 45-110 goes over that by about 4 ounces.
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The NRA weight limit is 12lbs 2ozs, but that is for Silhouette. The weight limit for Long Range is 15lbs. Not that I’d want to shoot a 45 2 7/8th in silhouette anyway. I tried my Shiloh #1 in 45-2.6” a couple times. Now I shoot a Ballard High Wall in 40-70 Winchester or another High Wall in 45-90.

The wait for Shilohs dropped considerably when they upped their deposit from $50 to $250, and payment in full prior to beginning production. It cut way down on the speculators.

V4Vendetta before you decide what to get, you should check out some matches if at all possible. The 1st BPCR I ordered was a Shiloh in 45-3.25 (45-120) because it was the biggest case I could get. Luckily, I came to my sense before I shelled out the cash. At that time, I was primarily shooting CAS, and wanted a sharps for the hell of it. The thought of shooting black powder cartridge matches was the furthest thing from my mind then. Well, 5 years, and 4 rifles later, I now average 12-16 black powder silhouette matches a season.

The reason I recommend getting out and checking out some matches is to see some different rifles. They all have good and bad features, IE the Quigley has a military buttstock. This stock has a curved buttplate that will be uncomfortable during long strings. (long can be defined by caliber!) The stock also has more drop, and a thinner comb, harder to get a check weld for the longer shots. The 45-110 is a large cartridge that will take some effort to learn to load for. Brass for the bigger cases is expensive. I have over 300 pieces for each of my rifles. For 45-100, that’s close to $300 in brass alone.

In most cases, the grand old 45-70 is a better choice. You can always get one, shoot it for a while and trade up later, or have it reamed out to a longer case.

Just some things to think about,

Chuck
 
Pedersoli is the only imported Sharps copy to be found at real BPCR matches I have been to. Other Eyetalian copies run from fair Cowboy or plinker guns to dreadful goodfornothing. Shiloh and C. Sharps are the Real Thing and Shiloh folks are nicer. As Chuck says, the Quigley is not the easiest to shoot, there are several other variations that make more sense and are equally authentic to history if not the move.
 
countertop said:
The NRA is running a contest right now to win the rifle Tom Selleck used in the movie. I think you have till January 1 to enter. They had it in one of the summer issues of American Rifleman. Valued the rifle at over $100k
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Considering that Tom used three or four rifles in the movie, I'd say offering THE rifle is a tad misleading.
 
IIRC, they manufactured three rifles for the movie. One was with a lighter receiver, aluminum I think, that could be used for the melee scene. Can't remember if it had a mocked up barrel also.

Part of Selleck's contract for doing the film was that he got at least one of the rifles after completion of the film. If he has donated his rifle to the NRA, then you can fairly argue that it's the most important Quigley rifle, if not the only one.

Tex

ps- I'd have a hard time figuring out what to do with it if I won. I'd love to have a piece of movie history like that, but having something that valuable might drive me crazy. But it would be a good problem to have. :)
 
Hawkmoon said:
Considering that Tom used three or four rifles in the movie, I'd say offering THE rifle is a tad misleading.
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Yep, they ran the same contest a couple of years ago. I've no doubt it is a rifle used in the movie but there were obviously several of them. Just like the "Wizard of Oz". There were about 3-4 pair of ruby slippers Judy Garland wore, all of them quite valuable.
 
Well, if I won it, I think I would have to sell it if someone is actually going to offer that kind of money for it. I couldn't justify keeping that kind of collector's item around. Of course, I would have to order a replacement from Shiloh Sharps. But I guess that is just wishful thinking. :)

Can you imagine how much extra gun money would be available if I was able pay off my mortgage? :)
 
I have a Billy Dixon model Pedersoli Sharps. 32" octagonal barrel, silver forend cap, case hardened lock and buttstock...it is beautiful and shoots great. I've shot sub-1" groups with IMR 3031 and a 405 gr bullet...I can't seem to get the hang of reloading BP yet though...haven't found the accuracy there yet.

Lousy picture but that's her in the center
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Yep, the Shiloh is the real deal. Man, I love that movie! I bet I have watched it well over 100 times. When he shoots that bucket off that hill, I get all riled up. The gear up at the beginning credits is sweet too. Gear-ups rock! Word on the street has been that he is making Quigley 2, but I have been hearing that for about 5 years now. They're killin' me!:D
 
I've entered the contes & hope I win. But, whoever wins will assureadly get a 1099 form & have to pay Federal & state income tax on the value of the gun.
 
If you hold out and buy a Shiloh...

...it will be the finset rifle you will ever own....

...and quite possibly the most accurate.....

Shane
 
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