Racine County Sheriff's deputy shot while serving warrant (WI)

[Gewehr98]

BluesBear, good points!

Not that it matters but I can recall there being instances of people impersonating police all of my life. Every year or so there's a local report of someone being pulled over by a fake cop. This is nothing new. Does it really matter whether it's a rapist pulling over a woman at 2am or three thugs invading a mobile home looking for drugs? Proper police officers WILL have ID. That's why I have always advised women to not pull over for ANYONE unless they are 100% sure they are the Police. If it's an unmarked car then drive slowly until you find a safe place. Do NOT try to outrun them unless they are trying to force you off the road.

My (now) ex-wife was followed by a Sacramento County Sheriff's deputy one evening after she left Roseville to come pick me up at my barracks on McClellan AFB. He followed her all the way through Antelope and down Watt Ave, finally pulling her over as she was signalling to turn right into the main gate of McClellan AFB, just shy of the guard shack, right in plain view of the Security Police on station. She had been watching him tail her the entire trip, wondering if there was a broken taillight on her Volvo 164E or something like that. Once he hit the blue lights, she pulled over, he walked up to the driver's window, and to her surprise he just asked her for her phone number and a date. She somehow got out of her face that she was meeting her fiance' on the base. The SP's were intrigued and asked what the stop was all about. She told them, and they asked her if she wanted them to find out who he was. She was too unnerved to press it any further, we were already late for our dinner engagement. But if I had a badge number or squad car number to go on, believe me I would have been calling Internal Affairs in a heartbeat.

 

[BluesBear]

Find out who the officer was and since she's now your ex... give him her number.

 

[Gewehr98]

Yeah, I thought that same thing once I hit the Submit Reply...

I should've tracked him down and given her to him. Would've saved me 6 years of grief and an expensive divorce settlement.

But at the time I couldn't believe something like that would happen, public servants doing something not exactly kosher. Now that I've been a government employee for 18+ years, it doesn't phaze me near as much. I'm just barred from writing a book about it for 75 years or so, once I signed that slip of paper.

 

[P95Carry]

Show me one, much less a bunch of incidents where badguys did a dynamic entry simulating a no-knock warrant. You'll find the overwhelming majority of "Home Invasions" start with a knock on the door and then forcing their way inside. Same goes for the 'bogus cop' home invasions.

TBO ..... I have no incidents to show you .... that was not why I mentioned that .. it is simply because it could occur ..... it matters not to me whether cases are there and documented or not ...... any BG's planning a quick heist could very easily regale themselves of T-shorts, jackets - whatever ... with ''police'', ''FBI'' emblazened all over ... easy to aquire.

Because something may not have happened does not make me feel any the safer. So ''just because'' forced entry is ''only'' carried out by legit LEO's .... yeah sure ... it can ONLY be cops?! And as I said before - where's the time to establish I/D? Any man, and an innocent at that ... is NOT gonna take kindly to ANY forced entry... IMO, VERY understandable.

 

[TheeBadOne]

Do some research, call the FBI, your local Sheriff/PD. Ask how many No Knock warrants are served. Ask what they are served for, and what must be met (requirements before one is issued).
You'll find that standard warrant service is 99% of the warrants. There are a fair number of No Knock Warrants issued for very particular reasons. Ask how many go down w/o a hitch. 99.99% DO.
As pointed out by other posters, much ado is made about NKW when the chance of being struck by lightning, killed by a stray shot hunting, or dieing in a car wreck are much higher than a KNW going to a wrong address (yours). All things in perspective. I am in no way against debating the merit of KNW's, just a little correcting/narrowing of perspective.

All the best

TBO

 

[tiberius]

Known hostages is the only valid reason to "no Knock" a residence. Anything else is pure jack-booted-thuggery and I root for the occupants, no matter their crimes.

 

[Hal]

From hammer4nc's first post:

"We do these kinds of warrants routinely," Gordon said.

Now from TBO's last post:

Do some research, call the FBI, your local Sheriff/PD. Ask how many No Knock warrants are served.

I'm not sure exactly what message is supposed to be conveyed by Gordon's quote. I guess it's more of a CYA type of thing to mean that the Deputy was trained to deal with being shot at during a no-knock.
It sure does give the impression though that they do no-knocks all the time.