Rapper arrested for possession of hollow point ammunition

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And why was he only carrying 6 rounds in a mag?
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Maybe it was a Davis .380

I've got a Nickel plated one and everyone calls it Bling Bling.
 
The controversial bullets, also known as "dum-dums," are designed to mushroom on impact and to cause a maximum of serious physical injury and pain to the target.
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As opposed to the FMJs that just go right through the badguy and into some poor bastard in the next room ... we'd much rather people use those then evil JHPs :rolleyes:

And why was he only carrying 6 rounds in a mag?
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Kahr MK9 only carries 6 in the mag (my MK40 only carries 5)
 
email sent ..

It may not be my best effort ... but I had to get it out.... I feel better now


Jamie,

Your article concerning the arrest of Masta P (not Mister P) in possession of Hollow Point ammunition was beyond comical. Your readers are now stupider for having read the article.
Hollow Point ammunition is not called "Dum Dums". What you are referring to are rounds that tumble upon impact with a solid mass, such as the rifle round used by U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. Nor, are Hollow Point rounds called "Cop Killers". Hollow Point rounds do not function as intended upon impact with a Kevlar vest. The round will not "mushroom" or open and deform as designed once slowed by the Kevlar vest worn by police officers, seriously limit the rounds capabilities. Hollow Point ammunition is designed as personal defense ammunition, to stop an assailant as quickly as possible. I don’t think I personally would like to give an assailant as many chances as he could get to hurt my family or myself. I want the threat that he or she poses to us as over as quickly as possible.
Masta P legally owned and possessed a handgun to defend himself against at least one deranged individual. Restraining orders are only worth the paper they are written on. I ask you to go research the number of restraining orders that are violated a day in NYC. Masta P has a right to protect himself from this individual and I am sure there are additional people that he is concerned with in this world.
It is a shame that the States Of New Jersey and New York feel the need to infringe upon its’ citizens rights to defend themselves as Masta P was doing. The state or the police are no longer in the business of stopping crimes; they are in the business of solving crimes. Their organizations are setup to prove quilt not protect. Please look into the amount of expenditures the NYC Police Department incurs on lab analysis of crime scene evidence a year versus what it would cost to add more officers to local precincts to walk street beats. The lab tech does not protect the citizens of NYC nearly as well as an officer walking a known territory.
Please Jamie, use your research tools before you rip off another 200 words concerning a subject you know nothing about. As a word of advice, a security guard from Newark Airport is not a Subject Matter Expert on firearms or ammunition. Your readership can’t afford to be continually fed bad information.

Sincerely,
G**** ****n
 
Hi everyone - new guy here. Being from NJ, I just had to clear up a few things. (and stand up for my awesome state :barf: ) In NJ, hollow points are NOT illegal. You can buy them, transport them home or to a range, and keep 'em in your gun. Possessing hollow points is only a crime when used in conjunction with another crime. (Ex. Rob a bank is a crime, each of the 6 hollow point bullets in the gun you brandished when robbing the bank will get you 6 additional charges filed against you) Follow? Problem is that the general assumption is they are alltogeather illegal. Not true. LEOs are usually uninformed on the issue (as are most other people) and arrests are made when they shouldn't be. Thanks, and great forum!
 
This article says 8 rounds, and arrest for "illegal use of ammunition" (I guess trying to check ammunition is illegal in the PRNJ :rolleyes: )
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1472314/20030605/master_p.jhtml?headlines=true

Just noticed an earlier NY Post story... claiming Masta P was trying to carry the bullets onto the plane.
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/415.htm

I wish reporters would grow up and get the facts before publishing. This is absurd.

Everyone with free LD might want to call the Union County PD and tell them how much you appreciate them making the PRNJ a safer place for criminals.

http://www.unioncountynj.org/police/Contact.htm

Union County Police Department
300 North Avenue East, Westfield, New Jersey 07090
Phone: (908)654-9800
Fax: (908)654-9872
[email protected]
 
Hi everyone - new guy here. Being from NJ, I just had to clear up a few things. (and stand up for my awesome state ) In NJ, hollow points are NOT illegal. You can buy them, transport them home or to a range, and keep 'em in your gun. Possessing hollow points is only a crime when used in conjunction with another crime. (Ex. Rob a bank is a crime, each of the 6 hollow point bullets in the gun you brandished when robbing the bank will get you 6 additional charges filed against you) Follow? Problem is that the general assumption is they are alltogeather illegal. Not true.
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According to this page , it gets a bit weird if you try to leave NJ with HP ammo. As long as you keep it at home you are OK. :barf:
 
No help from thesmokinggun...

From: AndrewGoldberg (TSG editor)
Subject: Re: Masta P

i saw the story in the ny post this morning. they were reporting six hollow-point bullets were in his possession. the port authority cops made the arrest and the union county sheriff processed him--i spoke to them and but they don't release mug shots. as for the report from the pa cops--i don't think i'm going to take a run at it without the possibility of a photo.

regards,
andrew
 
Why the people of NJ allowed their state to deteriorate so much is beyond me.

Erik - with lots of relatives in the Garden State.
 
The law is as follows:

2C:39-2 f. (1)Any person, other than a law enforcement officer or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6, who knowingly has in possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet ... is guilty of a crime in the fourth degree.

Section 39-6 is lengthy and spells out what occupations are exempt (cops, parole officers, transit officers, etc. etc. etc)
 
Rap entrepreneur Master P has been busted at Newark Airport with six hollow-point bullets, the deadly and illegal ammo known on the streets as "cop-killers."

The controversial bullets, also known as "dum-dums," are designed to mushroom on impact and to cause a maximum of serious physical injury and pain to the target.

The bullets also are outlawed in New York and their use is prohibited in warfare by international treaties.
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Master P did not sign the international treaty and was not travelling internationally. Also, Master P is not a soldier and therefore, not at war with another country that signed the international treaty.

If hollow-point bullets are known on the streets as 'cop-killer' bullets, why are these same bullets carried by cops? Is it that cops use these to shoot and kill other cops?
 
Just a to let everybody know, hollow points are legal to purchase in NJ for target shooting, transporting between the home and said range and also for storage at home. To carry it outside of those conditions makes it a felony. You may also use it in defense of your home but it may be a better idea to us FMJ only.

Here is the law explained by Evan Nappen Esq.-Attorney at Law specializing in Firearms issues in NJ.

N.J.S. 2C:39-6f States that hollow point ammunition is prohibited unless a person is engaged in activities pursuant to N.J.S. 2C:39-6f which includes hunting and target shooting. A person may keep this ammunition "at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him" and may carry such from the place of purchase to the above locations. L.E. and military personnel are also exempt.
 
I think this reporter needs to get his facts straight. HP bullets are perfectly legal in NYS. You can buy them at any store that sells handgun ammo, even Wally World.

Maybe he was talking about NYC who knows thats a whole nother state in its self when it comes to guns and ammo. But if he was he should clarify his statements. It burns my butt when people lump all of NY with NYC. My favorite is when someone finds out your from NY and asks if you have been mugged. My response NOPE but have you ever been cow tipping it sure is fun LOL.
 
Does anyone ever take ten minutes to write these bozo reporters and editors and set them straight?
 
all the news they see fit to print

Does anyone ever take ten minutes to write these bozo reporters and editors and set them straight?
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We do all the time but the bozo's own the paper and only print what they want to :banghead:
I hardly ever buy newspapers anymore
 
axeman_g wrote:
Hollow Point ammunition is not called "Dum Dums". What you are referring to are rounds that tumble upon impact with a solid mass, such as the rifle round used by U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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I always though "Dum Dum" was a generic term referring to any expanding bullet, including hollowpoints. IIRC, they were named for the British armory in DumDum, India, where they were first produced in large scale for the British forces against the Indians.
 
What you are referring to are rounds that tumble upon impact with a solid mass, such as the rifle round used by U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Sorry, this is incorrect. "Dum Dum" properly refers to .303 hollowpoint rounds originating from the Dum Dum arsenal in India under British rule. The term does not apply to fragmenting rounds such as the bullets fired from military 5.56mm loads.
 
HP In NJ

There is an HP law in NJ, but it's intent is as a sentencing law, to be used in conjunction with other charges, like, say, armed robbery.

You can buy HP in Jersey, you can have (and use, if need be) in your house for your defense, you may have it to and from the range/your place of residence, and you may have them when hunting, and it's appropriate to do so.

This is the first I've heard of the HP ban being a "stand alone" prosecution.

Another note: the "search" that discovered the HP is dubious.

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EVEN IF you are one of the 732 blessed carry permit holders in this state, you may NOT carry HP ammo.

I once heard EFMJ whiningly described as developed for "the retired police officers, who can't carry HP"

My response was, "that's all well and good for the retired cops, but what about the non retired civilians?"
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Another note: NJ law doesn't have a distinction between felony and misdemeanor. It only has "crimes of the 1-4 degree", 1 being the worst, and "disorderly persons" offenses, such as wandering around town in a drunken stupor.
 
here is my letter to the editor

Hello,

I read Jaime Schram's article about Percy Miller's arrest for possession of ammunition and I have a few questions and comments.

"Rap entrepreneur Master P has been busted at Newark Airport with six hollow-point bullets, the deadly and illegal ammo known on the streets as "cop-killers."

If hollow point bullets are deadly and illegal ammo known on the streets as 'cop-killers', why do police carry ammunition with hollow point bullets in their duty weapons? Is it because that police shoot and kill other police? Or is it because that hollow-point bullets are more likely to expend their energy sooner, to minimize going through barriers and injuring innocent bystanders?

Seems that Mr Percy Miller was being stalked by Antwan Baker, and he needed the handgun and ammunition to protect himself.

"The bullets also are outlawed in New York and their use is prohibited in warfare by international treaties."

Also, hollow-point bullets are not controversial, or else why would police departments all across the United States and other countries use such ammunition in their duty firearms. Mr. Percy Miller is not engaged in war with foreign countries, so why should he be prohibited to use it. Seems to me that the best type of ammunition to use to protect yourself would be the same type of ammunition that police use to protect themselves.

Thank you for listening, but please do more research,
 
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