bestseller92
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The bad news is, Ruger has had a few recalls. The good news is, they have proactively "stepped up to the plate" and taken care of the problems.
Wow, that sounds painful!!! I had something happen like that with a Colt Delta Elite, so I feel your pain there. I'm kind of surprised that ammo has such a huge affect whit performance as far as reliability, seems analogous to accuracy with rifles (My dad's Sako shoots great with certain reloads, but can't stand Noslers).In my experience ammo reliability will be a bigger factor than the reliability of any of the major gun brands. All of the half-dozen or so failures to fire (with stock guns) that I have seen in the last few years have left a primer with a heavy firing pin strike that did not go off. Most of the guns carried by my department are Glocks and Sigs, but I've seen it happen to about every brand at least once in many different training classes. If you're going to carry a gun, first thing you need to do is practice till the malfunction drill appropriate to your weapon is automatic.
I spend about 99% of my training time with a semi-auto, and I cut the heck out of my hand on the rear sight of a S&W 686 revolver once when it had a misfire and I automatically slapped the grip and tried to rip the top strap off it. Typical semi-auto malfunction drill is to slap the mag to make make sure it's seated, then rack the slide to chamber a new round, but that didn't work very well on the revolver (correct malfunction drill would have been to just pull the trigger again)!
I've seen a bunch of modified guns of every brand experience about every kind of feed failure and broken part you can imagine.
Excellent point, I have. I saw a guy with a brand new Colt that didn't like anything that was being fed into it.Between the 3 that you picked, you'll be the weakest link, not the guns.
As with most of the newer pistols and higher end 1911's, if you "do your time", learn the in and outs of the weapon. What it likes and dislikes, what failures are common for that piece, and how often you should replace parts/springs....
then you'll be fine.
Ever notice that at the range or in competition that there are allways a few guys who are reliable with any gun they bring, and there are some with perfectly good weapons that allways run poorly?
Thanks for bringing that up, that's a nice fact to know and to be able to take into consideration. If I'm not mistaken, I believe that the Border guards for Canada also carry the P2000The U.S. Border Patrol carries the HK P2000 in .40S&W. They love them, and the BP gets into more gunfights per year than all other LE agencies combined. Just a thought.
It's nice to know that they're a company who will actually stand by their product instead of just throwing it to the wind.The bad news is, Ruger has had a few recalls. The good news is, they have proactively "stepped up to the plate" and taken care of the problems.
It seems like the triggers on the Walther's are either "love 'em, or hate 'em". Didn't know that about special ops and that's also excellent to know about the HK P2000SpecOps has been carrying HK pistols for a long time. No gun will stand up better to harsh environments or be more reliable. My primary CC gun is an HKP2000 in .357 sig. Its seen thousands of .357 sig and .40 rounds without a single stoppage. I'm not sure if it was the P99 but the last newer model walther i fired had a terrible trigger.
Take a tip from the old big game hunters and make sure all your rounds will chamber before you leave camp.
That's good to know. I don't know many people who have dealt with their CS besides maybe my dad when he got his Gold Label.Ruger has superb customer service IME.
I'm kind of surprised, I've read about the occasional malfunction but never that many problems. Have to agree that they still make some nice stuff+1 for all comments on hk products
+1 for looking at SA XDs, flippin outstanding pistolas
As for beretta 92s, had a beretta 92 compact before my stint in the army and it would NOT shoot any load put in it worth a damn. Hardball, HP, +p, +p+, couldnt hit broad side of a barn if you were standing inside it. Then going downrange I saw too many failures from m9s. Made me write off 92 type berettas for good. Broken locking blocks, even a cracked slide on a LTs after quall range. 3rd BDE 25th ID didnt have brand new weapons, but not ancient either. Just my experiance, so beretta fans, please dont bite my head off. I still like other beretta products.
Happy shooting.
Wow, that's pretty frightening to have had a pistol just blow up in your hands. Have to go 100% with you on everything not being 100% reliable; most everything works at 70 degrees.Always have a plan ready and one you practiced just in case your favorite handgun doesn't go bang! I do not own any firearms I would bet my life on.
There is always that chance it will malfunction. I have a plan just in case It can be as simple as throwing the Glock at the BG and going for your backup gun. I have Sigs and H&Ks not go bang when I needed them to. A Glock not going bang came the closest to getting me killed. And I could never determine why it wouldnt. All the other times I had no problems figuring out why the H&K or Sig wouldnt. Nothing is a 100% reliable accept death and taxes. I blew up that Glock and have the pieces in Mason jar on my desk as a reminder just when you think you know it all you dont.
Got a chance to look at a Springfield EMP this weekend and I was quite impressed with it.I go with a good quality 1911. You can't go wrong with a Wilson, Nighthawk, Les Baer, or Volkmann Precision (formerly Volkmann Custom), but aside from the super high dollar 1911s, you can't go wrong with a Colt, Smith and Wesson E-Series or Springfield Armory.
If the 1911 isn't your thing, Glocks work well, but the ergonomics may not be to your liking. The Springfield XD and XDM are phenominal performers as is the Smith And Wesson M&P. HK makes a good reliable hard use gun, but they can be a little tough to carry concealed because of their bulky dimensions.
Pick one and train hard with it and you'll be fine.
Sir,I was in the USN for 20+ years.
I blew the Glock up myself when I got back to CONUS.
I never knew this, good to know now and it does clarify some things that I have read beforeMost modern auto's are designed to meet NATO and the F.B.I. protocol. The F.B.I. criteria is more about bullet performance. The NATO specs are about reliability and ability to take abuse and keep on working. NATO puts the pistols through some of the toughest testing their has ever been. For the guns to pass they must go through thousands of rounds while being frozen, heated, dropped, and things we don't even think about doing to our guns. So modern auto's of good quality almost always work.
These tests would kill some of the older auto's that were made. But the guns design is one aspect of reliable functoning. Proper cleaning and lubing, changing out recoil springs (most recommend 3000-5000 rounds. Smaller guns much more frequently) and although no specific number of rounds magazine spring changes. Lots of guys that shoot allot change them yearly. And mags should be broken down every so often for cleaning. Gunk building up in them can cause problems. And the last component good ammo.
Fund ammo of good quality that you can shoot several boxes of to assure feed reliability. Even with all the CNC machinery and tight tolerances guns are made to know two guns made right next to each other often will like different ammo. Even doing all this sometimes you can get bad ammo from the box. So we do need to practice failure drills just in case Mr. Murphy is around. And a good solid grip (high up in the tang and good hand pressure) on the gun is a must. Some are worse than others. Sounds like allot but for modern quality guns usually not a problem.