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Remember 'The Letter'? - Let's remind them of their own promise!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by CoRoMo, Dec 28, 2012.

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  1. CoRoMo

    CoRoMo Member

    Sep 21, 2007
    Californicated Colorado
    Most of you should remember the letter from 65 Democrat Congressmen and women that was sent to Eric Holder when this administration first took office.

    Of the 65 Congressmen and women that signed this letter, many still remain in office. We all need to find our state's elected official and remind them of the promise they made publicly to this administration; "We would actively oppose any effort to reinstate the 1994 ban, or to pass any similar law". We need their votes to hold that promise!

    There are still dozens of votes right here that we need to secure for our side of this issue.

    I will list the Congressmen and women who retain office and include their contact info for you all to use. Please do so! If you see a typo or any correction that needs to be made, please post because I'm simply googling their name and if they don't have a .gov website, I state that they are 'no longer in office'.

    Mod note: I wanted to post this in General because it obviously gets more traffic.

    Those who don't remember the letter, here is the text of it...
    1. Mike Ross (D-AR): http://mikeross.house.gov/contact/
    2. Tim Holden (D-PA): https://holden.house.gov/contact-me
    3. Jerry Costello (D-IL): No longer in office
    4. Jim Matheson (D-UT): http://matheson.house.gov/contact/
    5. Sanford Bishop (D-GA): https://bishop.house.gov/contact-me
    6. John Dingell (D-MI): https://dingell.house.gov/contact-me
    7. Marion Berry (D-AR): No longer in office
    8. Nick Rahall (D-WV): https://rahall.house.gov/contact-me
    9. Gene Green (D-TX): https://green.house.gov/contact-me
    10. Chet Edwards (D-TX): No longer in office
    11. Ciro Rodriguez (D-TX): No longer in office
    12. Gene Taylor (D-MS): No longer in office
    13. Bart Stupak (D-MI): No longer in office
    14. Collin Peterson (D-MN): https://collinpeterson.house.gov/contact-me
    15. Harry Teague (D-NM): No longer in office
    16. John Tanner (D-TN): No longer in office
    17. Allen Boyd (D-FL): No longer in office
    18. Dennis Cardoza (D-CA): No longer in office
    19. Eric Massa (D-NY): No longer in office
    20. Steve Kagen, M.D. (D-WI): No longer in office
    21. Betsy Markey (D-CO): No longer in office
    22. Paul Hodes (D-NH): No longer in office
    23. Ron Kind (D-WI): https://kindforms.house.gov/contact
    24. Peter Welch (D-VT): http://www.welch.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1476&Itemid=80
    25. Leonard Boswell (D-IA): http://boswell.house.gov/contact/
    26. Tim Ryan (D-OH): https://timryan.house.gov/contact-me
    27. Walt Minnick (D-ID): No longer in office
    28. John Boccieri (D-OH): No longer in office
    29. Joe Donnelly (D-IN): http://donnelly.house.gov/contact/contact-us-form.shtml
    30. Tom Perriello (D-VA): No longer in office
    31. Earl Pomeroy (D-ND): No longer in office
    32. Ben Chandler (D-KY): https://chandler.house.gov/contact-me
    33. Martin Heinrich (D-NM): No longer in office
    34. Debbie Halvorson (D-IL): No longer in office
    35. Travis Childers (D-MS): No longer in office
    36. Tim Walz (D-MN): http://walz.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21&Itemid=7
    37. Peter DeFazio (D-OR): http://www.defazio.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=127&Itemid=93
    38. Solomon Ortiz (D-TX): No longer in office
    39. Paul Kanjorski (D-PA): No longer in office
    40. Rick Boucher (D-VA): No longer in office
    41. Mike McIntyre (D-NC): http://mcintyreforms.house.gov/contact/
    42. John Murtha (D-PA): No longer in office
    43. Bart Gordon (D-TN): No longer in office
    44. Zach Space (D-OH): No longer in office
    45. Alan Mollohan (D-WV): No longer in office
    46. Lincoln Davis (D-TN): No longer in office
    47. Artur Davis (D-AL): No longer in office
    48. Charlie Melancon (D-LA): No longer in office
    49. John Barrow (D-GA): https://forms.house.gov/barrow/webforms/issue_subscribe.htm
    50. Christopher Carney (D-PA): No longer in office
    51. Dan Boren (D-OK): http://boren.house.gov/contact.shtml
    52. Parker Griffith (D-AL): No longer in office
    53. Charlie Wilson (D-OH): No longer in office
    54. Heath Shuler (D-NC): https://shulerforms.house.gov/contact/
    55. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-SD): No longer in office
    56. Jim Marshall (D-GA): No longer in office
    57. Jason Altmire (D-PA): http://altmire.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15&Itemid=38
    58. Larry Kissell (D-NC): http://kissell.house.gov/contact/index.shtml
    59. John Salazar (D-CO): No longer in office
    60. Brad Ellsworth (D-IN): No longer in office
    61. Frank Kratovil (D-MD): No longer in office
    62. Glenn Nye (D-VA): No longer in office
    63. Bobby Bright (D-AL): No longer in office
    64. Ann Kirkpatrick (D-AZ): http://www.kirkpatrickforarizona.com/contact
    65. Joe Baca (D-CA): http://baca.house.gov/contact

    Also, both of the following Democrats from Montana and the one from Alaska sent their own letters to the administration rebuking the calls for gun control:

    Max Bacus (D-MT): http://www.baucus.senate.gov/?p=contact
    Jon Tester (D-MT): http://www.tester.senate.gov/?p=email_senator
    Mark Begich (D-AK): http://www.begich.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/emailsenator

    Demand that they keep their word; no voting present, no skipping the vote. They promised to ACTIVELY OPPOSE new gun control legislation. Demand that they do so or vacate their elected office!
  2. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    0 hrs east of TN
    Let's be persuasive about it instead of just threatening.

    "will happily work to assure your reelection if you keep your promise made to all of us OR will actively work to see you loose the next election if you ally yourself with any firearms ban"
  3. CoRoMo

    CoRoMo Member

    Sep 21, 2007
    Californicated Colorado

    We could really use another letter too!
  4. Geneseo1911

    Geneseo1911 Member

    May 6, 2005
    South of I-80, PR of IL
    Exellent Coromo! Thanks for doing this work.
  5. CoRoMo

    CoRoMo Member

    Sep 21, 2007
    Californicated Colorado
    No problem!

    But also, I'd start out by THANKING THEM for their participation in that letter back in 2009 and explain how important it was for them to make this promise. Back in 2009, I personally contacted the Colorado individuals and simply thanked them when I first read about it.
  6. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    0 hrs east of TN
    "Thank you for your letter to Eric Holder opposing an AWB in March of 2009.
    In the face of the hysteria and rush to judgment as a result of the heinous acts of a criminally insane man in Newtown I ask that you hold to your commitment to opposing an AWB treating over 200 million voters as if we were also criminally insane.

    If you continue to oppose an AWB I commit to happily work for your reelection as ardently as I will work to unseat any who support such a ban.

    Thank you,
  7. 1911 guy

    1911 guy Member

    May 5, 2005
    Garrettsville, Oh.
    Anybody else notice that two thirds of these got voted out of office? Makes me wonder if the districts went the other way or if the DNC threw them under the bus.

    Edit: I like HSO's letter. Short, sweet and to the point.
  8. 230RN
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    230RN Marines raising the left-leaning Pisa tower.

    May 27, 2006
    Great idea! If we didn't have so many stickys already I'd suggest nailing that one up on the church door.
  9. 481

    481 Member

    Feb 22, 2009
    Thanks for doing all the work Coromo. That must've taken a lot of time very much appreciated.

    Starting to send my correspondence now.
  10. gym

    gym member

    Dec 9, 2007
    They just asked That idiot, jessie jackson, how any of this is going to cut down on Chicaco's 500 plus murders by changing the laws or banning assault weapons, he tried to deflect the conversation, but for a change the newsman kept asking him to answer the question, to which he said it's because 40-something percent are unemployed, and don't want to flip burgers at Mcdonalds.
    They even interviewes a drug dealer/gang banger, Who's face was covered, and he said , when he kills a rival dealer, his business picks up, because he then takes over his territory.
    They admitted that new laws will do nothing to recuce the death toll. What more do they need other than outright admissions from the criminals themselves. They are using any kind of gun they can steal or buy from someone who stole it.
    How is any legislation going to get a country with this many problems back on track, it's not. We also need to get these drugs off the streets once and for all.
    We watch these shows on TV showing how they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in salaries for DEA and ATF cops to make buy and bust stings to fetch a few grand in drugs, they are out of jail before the ink is dry.
    Nothing is going to get better until they have a comprehensive packsge of drug, mental health, immigration, and education. until that happens we will continue to drown in a sea of discontent, where an occasional nut case will emerge and show us that there are monsters living amongst us.
    We need guns to protect ourselves from being in a crossfire or attack from these people.
    And the pure psycopaths aren't going to be detered by gun laws, they want to die, preferablly taking as many with them as possible, but I am sure that anyone who does this is going to continue doing it. Perhaps we can cut the death toll if they arm teachers and civilians, but other than that the plans they make are not reversable, once they plan it in their heads, they are usually going to follow through, maybe die faster that's about all it will acomplish.
    It appears that they want to kill them selves or be killed anyhow, so arming more people can get them their wish faster.
    This is turning into a debate about a dozen other things that cause these things to happen. Maybe if we bring that to light it will help prove that guns really have very little to do with all of this, Because even with all the noise, Chicago's death toll is half of what it was 10 years ago.
    It's not the guns, it's the media, they can blow anything out of proportion.
    we need more raw data showing that guns are responsible for lowering crime. We need it out there , on the front pages of newspapers, and the internet.
  11. KMatch

    KMatch Member

    Oct 18, 2012
    Corrections applied below for anyone cutting and pasting. There were some typos in the original:

    As strong supporters of the Second Amendment, we were very concerned to see your recent remarks suggesting that the administration will push for the reinstatement of the 1994 ban on "assault weapons" and ammunition magazines.

    We believe that this ban was ineffective during the 10 years it was law, and would oppose its reenactment. Crime began falling before the ban was passed in 1994, and continued falling during and after the ban. The last time the murder rate was at its current level was more than forty years ago.

    Even the Urban Institute study of the ban's effectiveness mandated by the 103rd Congress found that it could only have a limited effect because "the banned weapons and magazines were never used in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders."

    It is hard to believe the ban would be any more effective in controlling crime by well-funded international drug traffickers, who regularly use grenade launchers, anti-tank rockets and other weapons that are not available on the civilian market in the United States.

    The gun control community has intentionally misled many Americans into believing that these weapons are fully automatic machine guns. They are not. These firearms fire one shot for every pull of the trigger. Some of the guns that would be banned under proposed bills have been around for more than 70 years, and are often passed down from generation to generation.

    Many of our constituents lawfully own and use these firearms and ammunition magazines that would be affected by the new ban. Indeed, these are commonly owned firearms through the country. Law-abiding Americans use these guns for all the same reasons they use any other kind of gun--competitive shooting, hunting, and defending their homes and families.

    Our constituents also have very real and serious problems that we in Congress urgently need to address. People are worried about keeping their jobs, paying for their families' health care, educating their children, and retiring with the kind of security their parents and grandparents enjoyed. A long and divisive fight over a gun control issue will only distract us from giving these more important issues the attention they deserve.

    Again, we would actively oppose any effort to reinstate the 1994 ban, or to pass any similar law. We urge you to abandon this initiative and to focus instead on effective law enforcement strategies to enforce our current laws against violent criminals and drug traffickers.
  12. gym

    gym member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Can't we just host a website and put up the truth about these questions that keep popping up on a daily basis?
    Something like Liberty speaks, and just put the stats up on these things. No comments, just statements.There are lot of misinformed folks out there.
    I know there are things like this that have been done, but we could do it better, we have so much knowledge here, just the Mods alone, know more about these issues than any congressman or Senator.
    We could make it a fact sheet and send it to every Senator Congressman Mayor, and friend that exhists.
    It might go viral? Perhaps do it with sound on UTUBE.
    Just give them the facts, something like, In recent days there has been a terrible attempt to shape public opinion by those who would strip us of our rights, we just want to set a few things straight.
    And take it from there?
    We don't have to ask for signatures, just put it out there, a selfless act to educate the American public, that they are being duped once again, to take their mind off the real problems, by diverting atention to a long time goal of these politicians in their quest to take our rights away from us.
  13. Bill2e

    Bill2e Member

    Nov 29, 2007
    This is an outstanding post. I will email every one on your list this weekend. Thank you for taking the time to post.
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