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Remington Pocket 1863 Hammer Pull

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by WhispersGhost, Jul 25, 2013.

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  1. WhispersGhost

    WhispersGhost Member

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    Hi

    i recently acquired a Pocket 1863 Remington and an Uberti 1849
    the Uberti feels really good in my hand and the action is very smooth,

    However my Remington Pocket Revolver is Very hard to pull back the Hammer
    i Disassembled it cleaned part in the trigger assembly put it back together
    and Still very very tight to pull back the hammer

    Any ideas how i can get the hammer to feel more smoother without losing the tip of my thumb?


    Thanks
     
  2. kituwa

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    You can either slim down the hammer spring, or use an abrasive cut off disk on a dremmel and slit the spring in the middle from below where the roller on the hammer rides on the spring down to just above where it screws to the frame.Just dont get the spring too hot. First thing though is check and make sure the roller on your hammer is turning free.
     
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    Oh yea, dont over do it because that pocket gun has a short hammer throw so it may need to be pretty strong in order to hit the cap hard enough. My Pietta 1860 has a ferocious strong spring on it too but there is no need for it to be real stiff on a colt 60, i just havnt got around to fixing that yet
     
  4. WhispersGhost

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    @kituwa

    @kituwa

    Thanks for the reply
    Yes i was going to ask that in my Post about the possibility
    of losing Power by doing that but then you did say Do not over do it.

    BTW when i took the revolver apart the only part i was not sure how to remove was the hammer and hand, So i took the rest apart polished the pieces and put them back in as far as the spring i did not see a screw like the Colt has so i guess i have to Tap it out.

    Not sure how easy it will be putting it back in lol
     
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    I dont have a gun like that here to look at so im not sure. Someone will come along that will know though. They can prolly teel you if its normal for the little pocket guns to have a strong main spring or not too. I just got finished slitting the spring on my 1860 just now,,its sweet now!
     
  6. WhispersGhost

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    @kituwa

    Oh The 1860 Colt

    God i want one of those sometime as well

    First i would like to get the Pocket Police .36 Then The Colt Walker.

    i would go with the Walker Kit but i really love that Engraved Cylinder
    so i rather pay more for that.
     
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    Everyone needs a 1860 colt. My son claimed mine so i mostly get to only look at it now,lol. Read up here on those pocket police models. The Pietta one is a lot bigger than the Umberti one and i see the Umberti one is thought very highly of by many. I dont have one of those either.I think my next gun will be one of the little rem .31 pocket guns though. I had a walker until reciently and they are a blast, everyone needs one of those too. I cut my 1851 colt down to 5 1/2 inches so thats my pocket gun for now. Works ok in my front jeans pocket but i still need one of those tiny rem .31's. Oh yea, i do have one of those dbl barrel Hoppies .36 deringers that works ok in my pocket but its just two shots,lol.
     
  8. WhispersGhost

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    Pocket Police

    Yes

    Taylors has theThe Pocket Police Model i want,
    its the same size as the Uberti 1848, But fit for a .36

    i Dont have a .36 yet .i have

    *The Super Companion Magnum Model cap and ball .22
    *1858 Stainless Steel Buffalo with Kirst
    *1858 New Army Brass
    *Uberti 1848
    *1863 Pocket as of Today
    But truthfully Even though the Uberti is Bigger,
    it feels and looks so dam pretty compared to the Pocket remington.

    i wanted NAA Earl but they are out of stock,
    so i went with the remington Pocket.i kinda regret it.
     
  9. faustopph

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    When I took apart my little Remington Pocket a few weeks ago I noticed the main spring was as far up as it could go. Pushing against the back of the hammer. I took it out and reinserted it all the way down into the notch at the bottom of the grip frame. Now it is resting only against the roller as it should be. It is much better than before and smoother. They are easy to get in and out since the notch in the grip frame is not a tight fit. Just take your time and hold your tongue to the left.lol

    Sent from my SGH-S959G using Tapatalk 2
     
  10. WhispersGhost

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    Sounds like PLan

    Yes that is an idea you both had mentioned that roller pin,

    Yea i think id rather to that then to be cutting down the spring


    Thanks for that Info
     
  11. WhispersGhost

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    Done

    Well i was not really sure about wanting to grind or
    file down the mainspring.So for now i took it out and replaced it with a rubber band (joking)

    No i had to use a Rubber Mallot gently tapping it as i guide the spring back in with a fat driver i have i feel no difference so for now ill leave it alone.

    At least i gave it all a good cleaning and polishing again and some oil.

    i wont press my luck tonight

    They are not bad Mosquito guns though

    Thanks Guys
     
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    i had taken my main spring out and pushed it down as i can go,
    but the hammer pull is really putting pain on my thumb,

    Even my NAA Super Companion is smoother then that.

    i slightly Grinded the Spring and it is alot better now.

    Some people use a cardboard shim between bottom of mainspring for what ever purpose that serves it looks useful

    Thank You
     
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    Hammer Pull Needs More Tension

    OK
    i was able to finally get a chance to fire off a few rounds with two Different Revolvers

    The 1863 Pocket,After that last time i had relived some of the tension from the Mainspring,the action is as smooth as butter but i have ti fire at least a 2nd time to actually set a cap off.

    On the Uberti 1862 Police with 4 1/2" Barrel. i did not see any evidence of cap jams through all 5 shots, but i still gave it a Flick of my wrist to fling the Cap away from the action once it was near that loading port.

    So in Conclusion

    Uberti 1862 Police:
    i Do not see any need at this time to replace Niipples or fill in the Notch on the hammer with JbWeld.

    1863 Pocket Remington
    i may have to push that Spring back up higher and use a tiny piece of credit card shim

    i Do not want it too tight that a Mule has to pull the trigger.

    Other then that i quite pleased.
     
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    MainSpring Pocket 1863 (Conclusion)

    OK

    Seems only sometimes i am able to fire off a cap or two

    What is happening since i removed some Tension from the mainspring is

    The Gun only shoots after the second shot which could only be due to
    The Caps are not seated enough and the Hammer seems to seat them Down further on the 1st Strike

    What i am going to do now is put in a New Main Spring
    then Follow some of these suggestions

    See Link Below

    Other wise the Gun Work Fine

    http://www.scorrs.org/articles/Pocket_Pistol.htm
     
  15. WhispersGhost

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    i just received a New Mainspring and my Question is why is it too easy to put in.
    It was not easy putting in the old one when i first got the Revolver;

    What could i be doing wrong?
    The Roller is fine.It seems only way i can make the Hammer tight is by
    Not only shimming the Bottom of the Main Spring but also a rubber wedge pushing up towards the Rolling pin so it stays under the Roller.
     
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