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  1. Officers'Wife

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    OK, I am not at all familiar with shotguns. Given that, I just read of a court case in Kentucky where a person is claiming his neighbor shot down his drone that was at a height of 275 feet.

    Is a 12 guage capable of putting enough pellets into a drone size target with enough force to down the "aircraft?" In my limited experience with a 20 ga that seems doubtful even with 00 buck. Would someone grant me the benefit of their superior experience pls?
     
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    Entirely possible. One pellet in the right place would do it, but getting that pellet to that place at 90+ yards would involve some luck. I would think a high velocity #4 lead shot would have enough energy, and I know #4 or larger buck would, but my drone hunting experience is nil.
     
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    I have a lot of experience with guys claiming their shotguns
    will pattern buck shot at tremendous ranges. When I measured
    off 50 yards and let them shoot they couldn't believe it. The
    holes were few and far between. I don't think that many shooters
    can estimate range so well that they could know how far an object
    is at 275 feet. That is 25 feet short of a football field. In the air
    it would be almost impossible for a man to judge that distance.
     
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    275 feet is a long shot for sure. How did anyone know how high the drone was?
     
  6. Virginian

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    No doubt the drone had telemetry...
     
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    Yes, very possible. One of the First female officers hired in Florida prison system as a Correctional Officer and not simply a Matron fired a shot from a tower at a Florida Prison With a 12ga 870 with a 30" full barrel choke as an inmate was about to clear the top fence and the distance was 110 yards. The load was 2 3?4" magnum 12 pellet OO buck. One pellet hit him in the back of the head right in the brain stem and one pellet hit him in the hip. The other 10 missed but he fell dead inside the fence.
     
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    ^ This.

    In the Kentucky case, though, the SD card from the drone was surprisingly missing.

    The guy may have gotten a few pellets in the right area. These hobby drones are rather lightweight and flimsy, and I don't think it would take much to bring one down. Damage a rotor on one engine and it can destabilize. Damage a few, and it's done for.
     
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    As much fun as this sort of speculation is.... I'd want to keep in mind that "the drone was at 275 feet" might not be factual....

    As a young cop many years ago I was counselled by an old cop to remember that most of the time everyone you encountered was "shading" the truth in whatever claim they were making... Years later when I was the "old cop" I was certain that most were flat out lying (even the good guys...) when they were trying to make a point.

    By the way, if I were trying to hit a small flying object it wouldn't be buckshot I'd be using at all. Whatever loads will bring down ducks or geese would be my first choice... and, as already noted, one or two pellets in the right place would be all it took to disable something like that....
     
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    Don't forget the wad technology that federal and hornady have that does extend the range. Still hear, still likely holes in pattern at that distance but not impossible. By the way, a slug out of a shogun even with only a bead at 100 yards on a human torso target is easy if you can get into a stable shooting position.
     
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    With drones being made as light as possible, it wouldn't take but a few pellets hitting a vital area to cause it to fall, so anything is possible.
     
  12. Officers'Wife

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    The other "claimed" the height in court. But he was also fighting the idea that drone was taking pictures of the shooters "teenage" girls sunbathing behind a privacy fence. My cousin (an attorney) tells me there are three sides to a court case, the prosecution's side, the defendant's side and the truth. The "Drone Killer" is on Facebook using the name Drone Killer which makes me a bit suspicious of his side and 275 foot straight up hit with a 12 gauge makes me want a bit more information on the possibility. Since my experience with shotguns involves rabbits with a 20 ga, I needed information from people experienced with the larger bore. Like you, I would be more likely to depend on birdshot - #4 to #2 but my limited experience says the smaller the shot the less effective range.

    Since the court seemed to agree the drone operator was in the wrong I have to assume the evidence supported the shooter. I'm trying to pick the story apart as a mental exercise.
     
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    I've broken some clays at 70+ yards on the trap range with special handicap #7's, and taken a few fox at 65-70 yards paced off with #4 birdshot. My buddy back in the day that lead was still legal for waterfowl made some 90 yard shots with his 10 gauge with #2's on geese.

    I keep some #2 copper plated shot in 3" 12 gauge to shoot coyotes that have been called in, haven't shot many, and all got to about 50 yards, with multiple pellets in body.

    Chance of knocking a drone out at 275 feet, possible, but not real likely. I've been peppered with bird shot at 150 yards, just a little sting, no penetration.
     
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    The judge ruled in favor of the shooter. All appearances were that the drone was significantly lower than the drone operator/owner claimed. The judge believed the shooter that the drone was "spying" on his daughters and he responded.
    That does not mean drones are fair game, the Feds are looking into the shooting too.
     
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