robbed in driveway after leaving gun range

[Duckster]

Never expend all your ammo!!!!!

I have never gone to a range and expended all my ammo. I always have some left, just in case. I learned this in the Infantry, The mission ain't over until you make back home.

 

[k_dawg]

In Florida, there is no legal standing for signs preventing concealed carry. If discovered, they can ask you to leave ( or disarm ). THEN if you do not, they can call the police and have you arrested on tresspassing.

That said, the range I go to in the Orlando area, check the firearms when you get in, and often watch you set up. So if you carry it in concealed, and pull it out to shoot, you might get banned.

So, I unchamber the round and keep the magazine handy in my pocket while going in. When leaving I do the same, and the first thing I do in my car is load and chamber a round.

In any event, in Florida, just about anyone who can lawfully own a firearm can also have a permit. This is a perfect example of WHY you need to be carrying at all times.

 

[CDignition]

This happened in Florida...4 guys come at you in a threatening manner, attempting a felony on you, Drill em...there is no thought needed, If you wait, you lose.

I don't understand the quotes in the previous threads implying you would go to the can for lawfully defending yourself...It wont happen, especially when it can be seen they planned the crime all the way from the shooting range to their home...easy homerun there.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I didn't real all the posts but from the posted article it seems the guys that got robbed weren't armed and the guns were taken from their car trunk. Why the hell weren't they armed? You always have to protect yourself and your guns when leaving a range, especially an outdoor range.

 

[Ala Dan]

When attending a session at the gun range, when done and returing to my
residence I always pay attention to detail (the unexpected, if you will), and
I always have a few surprises for anyone who wants too try me~!

 

[Wes Janson]

All the ranges I go to here in South Florida forbid loaded guns and loaded magazines in the lobby/store area so in affect you are defenseless going to and from your car.

That reminds me of when I took my range officer safety course. Towards the end we were discussing various miscellaneous tidbits, and the subject of concealed carry came up. So I asked what to say/do about someone carrying concealed on the line. The response was something like "Well, if it's concealed, then it's concealed. So long as it stays that way, don't worry about it." Followed by a look that said "Why would you ask something like that?"

Personally, these incidents bother me quite a bit, having been a customer and patron of that store in the past, and well aware of my own legally unarmed status. It definitely hits close to home to realize how similar of a situation I've been in.

 

[taliv]

you know, it occurs to me that all of you who live down there should call the ranges and explain how this is turning into a trend and that they should change their policy. explain they may have some legal liability for disarming the guy (whether or not that's bs) and that maybe they should go so far as to hang a sign up or something encouraging awareness.

i mean, you should use these two incidents as an opportunity

 

[tank mechanic]

Every time I go to the range and fire my carry gun, I always leave a loaded mag in my back pocket. So that way i am always ready to go. You should never be black on ammo.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

Think about it. Most people only leave the range when they are out of ammo.

Whenever I go to the range, I rotate my carry ammo, but I always retain at least enough 230gr HydraShoks to fill one magazine for the trip home. Yes the gun is dirty, but I won't leave there unarmed. At home it is unloaded, cleaned, and reloaded, post haste.

I'm never unarmed, leaving the range.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Think about it. Most people only leave the range when they are out of ammo.

I'm new to shooting, only a little over a year now and I have NEVER left a range without my carry loaded and at least 1 reload available to me. Sorry man, there is no way I will leave myself at the mercy of a low-life. As a matter of fact, if things don't look right at the range or there are people hanging around that don't look right to me my carry isn't even taken out to shoot. I won't let a possible BG see that I have a concealed carry on me.

 

[gunsmith]

Really?

Think about it. Most people only leave the range when they are out of ammo.

They do? Are they insane?

I have never ever done that, what I do is make sure I unload my self defense ammo & load it back up b4 leaving.

 

[romma]

Time to start carrying an AR-15 to and from the range with a loaded mag really really handy...

 

[James T Thomas]

hubris

I was at the range yesterday, and noticed an inordinate amount of attention being given to me and my brother as we shot, by another shooter only a few targets away from us. This guy seemed overly interested in our hardware and what we had in our bags. So much so that he would stop his shooting and watch us, though we were just a couple of ordinary shooters like all the rest there.

Then there was another on looker who stationed himself behind the shooting benches to observe. He wasn't one of the range men as I know them to see them. I thought he may be one of the brass mongers that come around.

But you never know.

I understand that during the French Revolution when public beheadings were going on for "crimes" against the Republic that even though the death penalty was being administered by gillotine right there; that pick pockets were in the watching crouds, working, taking the risk of being caught.

That's the mentality of theives! Their work requires boldness, and they are convinced (arrogance) that they will not be caught. So they take their chances whether it's risking loosing their heads or ending up on the wrong side of a gun barrel while robbing someone armed. Amazing.

 

[gunsmith]

nope

Time to start carrying an AR-15 to and from the range with a loaded mag really really handy

that would be hard to deploy.

Just be aware and have a deployable weapon when leaving a shooting range, no need to overreact.

 

[gunsmith]

duplicate

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=253218

 

[Landor]

I had an experience one time at the range. I was on my way back to my car that was parked on the side of the building carrying my range bag. There was a car parked in front of me. As soon as I got to my car 2 guys get out of the car in front of me. The were parked really close to my car and the car behind me was a bit close also but there was enough room to get out. I locked my door as soon as it shut and started my car and put it in gear as fast as possible. One guy on my right kept staring at me while he opened the trunk and got in my way of leaving by putting his body in the way of my pulling out. The other was on the left just staring at me. I made eye contact with both of them. I backed up my car a bit to let them know it was in gear and proceeded to put my hand on my 45 that was on my hip. The guy on the right saw my movement and said something to the other guy but I could not hear. At this time a big truck turned the corner to make a delivery at the building across the street that I was parked on. The guys got back in their car and drove away and I got the hell out of there going the opposite direction.

Now I am not a paranoid person and I really do not know to this day if this was what I think it was or something else. I am describing it how I remember it. I had a feeling, kind of like that feeling you get when you know something bad is going to happen. I was a bit shaken up after it was over and the whole thing took about maybe 50 seconds to a minute.

I will not be parking on that side of the range for a while alone and I called them to let them know they should get a camera on that side of the building. Either way, it got me thinking and I made a lot of turns on my way home..

 

[1BLINDREF]

The best weapon you have is on top of your shoulders. If you're not aware of whats going on around you, you're asking to be a victim.

I always ccw at my range. If I want to shot the ccw that I have with me when I'm there, I take a range mag and use it, leaving my carry mags with the carry ammo in my pocket for when I'm finished. I always have a ccw when I'm on the line. You never know what nut-job might show up while you are there. IMHO - I don't think thats being paranoid, just prepared.

 

[Quaamik]

When I shoot my carry gun, I almost always remove the magazine and chambered round of carry ammo, then load practice ammo. When I'm done, I reload.

The only time it's different is when I'm cycling through carry ammo. Then I buy a fresh box on the way in, set aside enough ammo to reload, then shoot what I carried in and the"spare" ammo from what I bought.

 

[stogiegila]

Amazing the little things you can pick up

Up until reading this thread I have always gone to the range, used up all my ammo and then packed up my guns and walked to my car unarmed.

Since reading this, I know bring my guns, fully loaded with HD rounds to the range (although I still usually don't carry going in). However, when I'm finished shooting my practice ammo, I reload my HD rounds and then pack one gun and carry the other. I'm also much more attentive while going to my car.

For some dumb reason, I always felt that the gun range would be the safest place to be :banghead:

Now, I know better. Thanks

 

[cavman]

Coincidence?

I don't know whether it was a coincidence or not, but the Monday morning after I came back from one if my rare Sunday trips to the range two weeks ago, the door was kicked in and whilst at work and my pistols in my carrying case as well as my range bag (ammo, binos etc) were carted off. (While there, they found laptops, cameras, fire-proof box of papers (passport, birth cert. $$ etc.)

So, maybe someone saw me....or maybe merely punk opportunists

cavman