Ruger P95/S&W Sigma ...value or junk?

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carbine guy:

heres there straight to the point truth i work at a gander mtn and we sold loads of the sigmas over the holidays and have had probally 10-15 returned since jan 1st for parts breaking and trigger pull it comes with a 12 lb trigger pull and also is very cheaply made the plastic on it is not as strong as the polymer on most guns if u drop it on cement it will break with the ruger ur getting a hard to beat price whether it has a rail under it or not the ruger will last much longer and give u less problems with little maintenence i own a ruger p97dc and a sigma i am purchasing a p95 this weekend hopefully but the sigma has had about 50-100 rounds thru it and i was so upset with it i just stuck it in the safe and am planning on taking it to the next gunshow and trading it for the p95 with a little cash
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Holy run on sentence Batman!
 
After having fired both at the local range;

Ruger P95 = Value

Sigma = Junk

The Ruger was accurate and reliable (50 rounds fired) with a nice trigger.

The Sigma was less accurate, probably due to its incredibly lousy, gritty, long trigger and indistinct reset. The Sigma also had FTF on two occasions in less than 50 rounds. Like the M&P, it did feel good in the hand. There, I said something nice about the Smegma. TJ
 
Nothing bad about the p95 cause I might have been the only person in the world that received a "bad" one. Out of 400 rounds I had about 100 failure to ejects and loads. It as now been at Ruger getting repaired for 3.5weeks when they originally told me it would only be a week turn around time. Finally heard today that it was shipped out. I can't wait to get it back and put some rounds through it. I woud love to be a proud ruger owner. I'll keep you updated. Just a little insight on my p95 experience
 
I have shot a p89 which is the same family as the p95 and it was a great gun. I put about 100 rounds through it and had no complaints. I own and carry a sigma 9ve about 5 days a week. I have put thousands of rounds through this gun and it has never given me a problem I can recall. The closest thing I have had issue with is that the slide will flash rust if I carry it to long without firing but it will always shoot. Any firearm not in stainless will rust from sweat and body oils. I bought the Sigma because I work in a machine shop/auto repair shop and if I am standing at a lathe late at night or rolling under a vehicle late at night and my Sigma gets scratched I don't sweat it. Use the rebate for the extra mags and cut a lawn or two if the fifty dollars is an issue for you.
Either will serve you well, practice a lot and and find out what shoots well in your gun.
Also the Sigma seems to re-holster easier for me.
 
I am no fan of any centerfire Ruger semiauto pistol, however, the P95 9mm & P97 .45 auto are the two best pistols that they've ever mass produced, totally reliable, good accuracy, built like bricks, simple to operate, and as close to painless to your pocketbook as you're likely to get, they are completely superior to the POS Sigma.
 
Fired 50rds through my S&W 40VE today........worked fine, about 850 through it so far without any issues.
 
fxstchewy said:
Fired 50rds through my S&W 40VE today........worked fine, about 850 through it so far without any issues.
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Yep. Its only the internet commando know-it-alls that denegrate other people's firearms without knowing anything about them except what they read on the internet posted by other know-it-all commandos!

By the way, 850 is bearly broken in! My SW9VE has over 10,000 rounds down range with never a hic-up. I will be going to the range tomorrow to requalify (I have to do so quarterly) with my SW9VE, M&P .40, and my H&K .45. Of the three the SW9VE is the most fun to shoot. :)
 
I have a Sigma 9c the first run, it did have a lousy trigger till I sent it back On their dime, Came back 9 days New SLID ,BARREL,& internals that was in 2001 carried it ever sense. I put about 4-5 thousand rounds down range no problems at all GREAT GUN!!
I bought a Rugger P95 last year &got about a grand down range & it's a little more acc-urate than the sigma, But the sigma is a carry gun /CQC. YOU CAN'T GO WRONG EITHER
WAY!!
Y/D
 
No experience with the Sigma at all so I can't speak for it.

My Ruger P95 however has definitely been a value.
 
Checked out a Sigma 40VE at the gun shop during my lunch break, as I've been thinking about this one, and the slide was pretty stout. A little wide for my preferred grip, too, so it's back to the hunt.
 
I have a 40ve sigma, the trigger needs some work, but once worked in good or springs changed its a pretty good gun for the price. Ive fired 500+ rounds threw mine, never had a jam or stove pipe, its been very reliable and the accuarcy is good and accurate.

there are better guns but this has been a good buy for me.

my 2 cents.
 
Had a p95, great gun, great price

Handled a sigma, seemed like a good value.

The trigger is heavier, but nothing you cant adapt to.
 
I bought a P95 in 1996. Used it to qualify in the police academy and carried it in my first police job (auxiliary). Ate ammo all day and never once jammed. Reloads, factory, FMJ, JHP, +P and +P+ / didn't matter. Not a big selection when it came to decent security holsters. It was retired to the gun safe not long after when I got my current, full-time police job and the department-issued SIG P226. You can't wrong with the Ruger.
 
I had an old P95, it was pretty reliable. I thought it was kinda heavy and big tho so I gave it to my old man as a HD gun. For the price tho I think that it would be hard to beat
 
I don't think either makes for a great carry gun, but even if the P95 is slightly bulkier than the Sigma, the peace of mind of having a pistol with a solid reputation of reliability like the P95 would be enough for me.
 
i cant say anything for the sigmas (besides being sued for copying glock) but i have owned my p95 for...wow 5yrs. now? it was my first auto purchase, bought at academy for 385.00. as my experience with firearms has grown so has my love for my p95.
 
i used to carry the Sigma; that was a great gun, at a great value. much better ergos than a Glock, which is why i bought it. just didn't care for the Glock on my hand. i've never owned or shot the Ruger, so i can't comment on them. both sound like good deals to me. i'd definitely buy another Sigma again, if i wasn't already bitten by the 1911 bug.
 
I have the answer: Save a little extra money and get both!



I agree! Get the both, write up a nice report, and you tell US which is better!

But seriously, I have a Sigma 9VE - bout 1000+ rounds now, not a problem. Polished the sear in bout 30 minutes (thanks youtube), gritty trigger gone.

No experience with Ruger.
 
Just a little update to my Ruger P95:

After thoroughly cleaning up the fouling left in my pistol from the ULTRAMAX garbage I will never buy again, I took it out to the desert to pop off a hundred or so rounds of HSM 115gr plated remans. It fired and fed all but one round, and I think my grip could have had something to do with that. It fired, but the spent casing got caught between the breech and the slide on the way out. After firing 100 rounds with only one FTE, I filled up a magazine with an assortment of 115gr FMJ's including UMC, WWB, and CCI Blazer Brass. Nearly every single one FTE'd. Yes, the gun was dirty from the previous 100 rounds, but nothing a gun as reputable as a P95 should have had problems with. Anyone have any ideas about this? I'm thinking it needs to go back to Ruger to let them figure it out.
 
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