Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by AntiSpin, May 12, 2014.
As mentioned, there are after market options for each of the pistols, but I think it's probably a bit premature for that given your friends are brand new to shooting.
My friend's S&W Shield also lacks for your description.
What I do perceive, though, is that, as a 1911A1 shooter, you prefer a single-action trigger. Neither of the guns under discussion possess that. Their designed triggers require more travel, and are designed to run around 5-6 pounds of pressure.
New shooters taught on single-action guns will almost always be disappointed in striker-fired, or DA/SA weapons triggers.
Both of my Rugers, and my friend's S&W, haven't lost much actual trigger pull with firing. However, all three guns FEEL lighter in trigger pull due to the smoothing in of the fire control parts with use. Often, the best gunsmith is Mr Firethehelloutofit. He works cheap, and you know your gun much better by the end of his work.
I think this might be the best suggestion in this thread.
As far as this situation. M & P's have some trigger issues although the Shield is better than most of the double stack models. It has certainly been a deal breaker for me. I have heard nothing but good about the apex kit. BUT, for new shooters with both of these guns I'd let them shoot for a while first. If they are getting reasonably good groups, I wouldn't worry about it. It isn't like the new shooter beside me at the range last week with an Sigma-40, I felt sorry for him. He could barely hit a full body target at 7 yards.
Having owned and shot both pistols, I wanted to comment on this regarding the mag disconnect.
I owned a brand new SR9c. In my experience, shooting it with and without the magazine in the pistol does not change the feel of the trigger at all. The SR9c's trigger feels pretty close to a Glock, maybe just a tad heavier.
Both the SR9/c and M&P's have good factory triggers. Could be better of course, but for a new shooter it will not make a noticeable difference since they don't need a 3 or 4lb trigger.
My SR9c has a decent enough trigger and is somewhat better in fact than my Glock 17 which has had trigger work done to it. No experience with M&P triggers.
But the slide action and the grip felt better on the M&P.
My LGS guy, who has never given me bad advice, suggested that the SR trigger was nice and would stay that way. The 9c he said was horrible but would improve quickly with age and some careful massaging. He suggested that I consider what the two would be like after a few hundred rounds, and he handed me another M&P that was there for sight work.
I bought the M&P. I added an APEX USB and some polish and cleaning work -- $35 and some elbow grease. The M&P is now at least as smooth as the SR, if not better, and the SR was pretty good.
In the past few weeks, I bought a Shield. Its trigger started out being as good as the SR in the first place, and has now improved to being better than the 9c. I've done nothing to the Shield but clean it and shoot it.
My preference is to just leave it alone. It's still a ton better than the LC9 I sold a few weeks ago.
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