Ruger sr-22 or colt m4 22lr ?
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WoofersInc
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The Colt has had some issues. They have been hit or miss. Mine now runs good after taking some time to find the proper bolt speed and ammo it liked.
The SR-22 is a 10/22 with the Nordic kit factory installed. You get 10/22 performance from it but it's biggest advantage is the 10/22 aftermarket. You can modify and play quite a bit with it.
The SR-22 is a 10/22 with the Nordic kit factory installed. You get 10/22 performance from it but it's biggest advantage is the 10/22 aftermarket. You can modify and play quite a bit with it.
devildog4329
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I personaly would go with the Colt. Like WoofersInc mentioned the Ruger is just 10/22 with the Nodic kit installed. The Colt feels more like an AR.
Also check out the S&W M&P 15-22.
Also check out the S&W M&P 15-22.
W.E.G.
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If you are going to post a "Which one should I buy?" thread, we really can't evaluate how it might (fail to) meet your needs unless you elaborate on what you want to use it for.
Well the Colt one has had many issues reported. The pic of the receiver broken in half was particularly disturbing. I'm inclined to believe that the Colt is a POS based on the reports and I wouldn't buy one at this point.
The SR22 is a 10/22 with cool furniture. It doesn't serve the main purpose I have for a .22LR AR, which is a trainer, because the controls are different.
If I had to pick one to own I'd probably still pick the Ruger. Something that works serves the fun purpose way more than something that breaks.
Is the S&W not an option? I personally am undecided on it.
The SR22 is a 10/22 with cool furniture. It doesn't serve the main purpose I have for a .22LR AR, which is a trainer, because the controls are different.
If I had to pick one to own I'd probably still pick the Ruger. Something that works serves the fun purpose way more than something that breaks.
Is the S&W not an option? I personally am undecided on it.
skidooman603
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Neither...Put a couple extra $$ with that and get a Compass Lake Engineering.
rangerruck
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ruger is much better than colt, it may take a proprietary mag, and is more expensive. the colt is a suck u bus. also proprietary mag types.
The sig is better than both, takes mags that are used in other platforms as well
and is cheaper. Call ajc sport shop or pawn shop, up near Dallas texas.
2 weeks ago, he was selling sigs for 399 plus tax, which is totally sick, and below cost. that would be the way to go.
s/w uses a proprietary mag as well...
The sig is better than both, takes mags that are used in other platforms as well
and is cheaper. Call ajc sport shop or pawn shop, up near Dallas texas.
2 weeks ago, he was selling sigs for 399 plus tax, which is totally sick, and below cost. that would be the way to go.
s/w uses a proprietary mag as well...
Ughh
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Neto, if your looking to shoot cheap .22s with a black rifle based platform, Smith and Wesson also competes with their S&W M&P 15-22.
To me S&W looks to be the closest replicate of AR-15 ergonomics, aside from just buying a .22 upper receiver for you actual AR-15 lower.
To me S&W looks to be the closest replicate of AR-15 ergonomics, aside from just buying a .22 upper receiver for you actual AR-15 lower.
eXtrudebg
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I recently spent a couple days with a buddy's sr-22. Not exaclty the same feel as an AR, but darn close. Didnt have any problem cycling through CCI MiniMag HV, but had a couple jams with Eley Sport. Still that didnt bother me too much...it's expected after a few hundred rounds.
Not a bad plinker to have in a collection, and cheaper than building from a stock 10/22. As we all know 10/22s are fun to build, but can be money pits.
Not a bad plinker to have in a collection, and cheaper than building from a stock 10/22. As we all know 10/22s are fun to build, but can be money pits.
Al Thompson
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Get the S&W. 
mljdeckard
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There are a few reasons a dedicated upper is much better than just the bolt drop-in kit. The rate of twist and caliber aren't correct for .22lr in an AR upper. If you just replace the bolt, you will have the wrong barrel. There is also no gas system to keep clean.
I'm saving up for a Spike's Tactical dedicated upper. Nickle-plated bolt, black dog mags, M-4 upper and grips. I plan on making it available to any of the soldiers in my unit that need marksmanship practice.
I'm saving up for a Spike's Tactical dedicated upper. Nickle-plated bolt, black dog mags, M-4 upper and grips. I plan on making it available to any of the soldiers in my unit that need marksmanship practice.
rangerruck
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neither; the smith uses proprietary mags, the colt has probs, the ruger is not bad, but too expensive in my book. The best is by far and away, the sig; it looks and feels just like it's big brother, and has great quality; nice tight tolerances, that you will actually have to break in proly first, with some hi speed solids for a few hundred rounds. then it will eat anything. It's layout , rails, folding stock, etc., are just like the sig 556. It is a fabulous piece, and the mags you use for it, will work in other 22/ar platforms. not sure the ruger will do that, and definitely the smith and the colt will not; theirs work with theirs only.
Lloyd Smale
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save some money and itstead of a ruger sr22 get a standard 1022. Its the same gun without all the decorations.
R.W.Dale
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Neither look at the s&w
sr22= 10/22 in a cheesy stock controlls like a 10/22
colt= completely propitary design
M&P= is a plastic 22lr ar15 that even accepts many STD ar parts
sr22= 10/22 in a cheesy stock controlls like a 10/22
colt= completely propitary design
M&P= is a plastic 22lr ar15 that even accepts many STD ar parts
otcconan
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I think a lot of you who are talking conversion kits are forgetting that the .556 in the AR typically uses a 1:7 or 1:8 twist for the rifling.
.22LR performs better with a 1:12 twist.
In other words, out to 50 feet, your bullet is not even spinning and will hit the paper sideways. If it hits the paper, because your accuracy goes to hell.
.22LR performs better with a 1:12 twist.
In other words, out to 50 feet, your bullet is not even spinning and will hit the paper sideways. If it hits the paper, because your accuracy goes to hell.
Why not just get a 22LR upper? I have a CMMG 22LR upper and love that thing. Just have to find what brand of ammo it likes, once I found out it prefers Federal and Winchester it's been running like a champ. Plus then you're not stuck with proprietary mags.
otcconan
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1:8 (.556) twist on an AR. 1:12 twist on a 22LE.
Unless you replace the barrel I'm afraid you're going to miss anything outside of 25 yards. And your groups are not going to be very good, either.
I bought the colt for my wife so she could train before using my colt AR. I also have the Rem. VTR. I use any and all HV 22LR ammo, and both guns have been fantastic. Out of the box, no issues. VTR is a BITCH to fully clean (anything beyond the barrel and chamber). I think there 20 f'n hex screws to take off. But, being a geek, I don't care. Love shooting and cleaning them. Both are great. I sold my 10/22 a while back, because I hated the damn bolt release (which I understand you can fix for like 20 bucks). It shot great too. Love that the wife and I can shoot for a couple hours, and we've spent almost nothing on Ammo. Long winded sorry. I like the Colt the best, but it's hard to go wrong. It cost a few dollars more, but at the cost of ammo, it's a wash at some point.
HisDivineShadow
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AFAIK the colt is not a colt, it's an umarex, who usually makes airsoft guns...
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