S&W sigma 9mm

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I bought a Sigma 9VE for my wife (because of the trigger pull, very unlikely to accidentally discharge in a high stress situation) and a M&P9 compact for me, but I liked hers so much that I bought one for me too but in .40S&W, I love them.
It is a defensive gun and not great for plinking, but I have put hundreds of round through both and never had a jam or failure to feed, it's very dependable. I carry it often, it's very concealable.

In my county we cannot modify our carry gun at all. No lasers, no trigger jobs, no nothing, it has to be factory standard.

The Sigma VE series is a great gun for home defense or carry.
 
my first carry gun was the 9VE. it's a decent beginner's gun, and a gun for those with limited funds. it was reliable, and the grip is more comfortable than a Glock's, in my opinion. after 2 years of shooting 1,000's of rounds through it, the magazine catch started having issues, and the mags would drop while firing. i called S&W, they sent me two shipping labels, and told me to ship it to them. the finish on the slide was also scratched up, and the rear sight was mangled from being dropped onto concrete; they're made of plastic.

i sent them the gun, and in exactly two weeks, they sent me a practically brand new gun: new slide, new sights, new magazine catch, new guide rod, new recoil spring...basically, the only part i got back was the frame. i held onto it for another year, then traded it for a Taurus 85UL, after buying a 1911.

the Sigma is a decent gun. don't let anyone tell you any different. it's not the most accurate gun, and the trigger is crap. i think, though, that these factors actually helped me become a better shooter, especially when i moved up to shooting 1911s.
 
I've been a pistol shooter since the early 60's and owned the whole spectrum from 1911's to Glocks, S&W's, High Standards and Rugers. I bought a new S&W Sigma SW9VE and liked it so much that I bought another new one. I had several brands of pistols loaded and hidden around the house. I'll standardize on the Sigmas and trust them for this sensitive duty.

I've heard all the garbage about the triggers and can't find a dimes worth of difference between the Glock and Sigma striker fired pistol triggers. The Glocks cost nearly twice as much money. I got my S&W Sigma pistols for $279 and $289 each.

Gripe all you want and quote all the Internet trash but be sure you use the ever present "I heard" in the comments. I actually own them, they are good pistols and I like them!

Flash
 
ROGER4314 said:
I've been a pistol shooter since the early 60's and owned the whole spectrum from 1911's to Glocks, S&W's, High Standards and Rugers. I bought a new S&W Sigma SW9VE and liked it so much that I bought another new one. I had several brands of pistols loaded and hidden around the house. I'll standardize on the Sigmas and trust them for this sensitive duty.

I've heard all the garbage about the triggers and can't find a dimes worth of difference between the Glock and Sigma striker fired pistol triggers. The Glocks cost nearly twice as much money. I got my S&W Sigma pistols for $279 and $289 each.

Gripe all you want and quote all the Internet trash but be sure you use the ever present "I heard" in the comments. I actually own them, they are good pistols and I like them!

Flash
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It's said that the trigger pull is quite heavy on the Sigmas. I don't know for sure as I've never fired one.

I do think that the Sigma is probably a 100% reliable pistol. It's cost makes it an ideal gun to conceal in different locations around the house.
 
I fired one once and found it really enjoyable. The trigger was a bit heavy but nothing offensive. It was finished nicely and I still like the looks.

Spent my money on a used P95 though.
 
Wife won a Sigma in 9mm at a RMEF Banquet.

Never thought that she'd let a handgun in the house....

Now we have two - the other is my new Beretta PX4 9mm.

Offered the Hornady Zombie Max as a stocking stuffer this Christmas... She thought it was funnier than heck.

After 20 years she still cracks me up!
 
Picked up a 9VE about a year ago and found it to be quite accurate out of the box with my hand loads. Had a couple failures to feed in 500 rounds and sent it into Smith & Wesson for work. Since they returned it it's a bit smoother and the feeding issues seem to be gone--although I want to put more rounds through it before I consider it GTG.

I was given some name brand "remanufactured" ammo for it, and in the process of shooting it up I had a head separation ("kaboom") which blew the mag partly out of the gun and locked the slide to the rear. Other than minor deformation of the mag catch the gun was unhurt and I was OK. I gave the gun a good checking out, dressed the burr that was raised on the catch, and all was well. Tough little gun.

Had it out the other day; shot a 5 shot group at 15 yards that was so-so. I got to thinking that it didn't like that brand of ammo (cheap S&B). The next 5 shot group, slow fire, put all into one ragged hole. So much for the bad ammo theory...

I am basically a DA revolver shooter, so the Sigma trigger doesn't bother me. As a matter of fact, I like it just fine. Some years ago I had a Glock 17 that, in spite of all my efforts, I couldn't hit anything with. I finally gave up on the thing. The Sigma has shot well for me from the first. The trigger is a lot like a DA wheel gun and the Sigma's grip is just right. The Sigma is pretty much a competitor with the Glock 19, and I like it a lot better.

I'm not particularly a 9mm fan, and polymer doesn't excite me; but if this little gun keeps behaving like this, I will be pretty impressed. I've spent a lot more for a lot less gun.
 
its funny, i can switch between my Sigma 40ve and my 1911 ringing a steel plate at 60+ yards.

actually won $40 from a guy the other day at the range. there was a 8x11" steel plate on the hill at about 60-70 yards out. he couldn't hit it with his .308 AR so i stepped up with my 1911 and drilled it 10rnds straight, he bet me $40 i couldn't do it again. i was out of .45 ammo so i lit up the steel with my sigma 10 rnds straight again. that was the easiest $40 i ever made lol
 
I bought my Sigma .40S&W used, but LNIB, for $200 last year. It has been unfailingly reliable, and hits what I aim at. What, pray tell, is not to like about that? :)

vanfunk
 
+1 on this. I have a 40VE and have no complaints. Never had a FTF, shoots all kind of ammo and fits my hand better than most pistols. I have no problems with the trigger but I am a double action revolver guy. Try renting one at the range and see if you like it.
Howard
 
I love mine and call it a 'poor man's M&P. Analogously, I would love to have the 'Cadillac but I am more than happy with my Chevy.';)

-Cheers
 
I did my research on the Sigma 9VE and was aware of the trigger issue. I bought one last week and before going to the range, I did a "Fluff and Buff". This is a detailing procedure I found on KTOG.org for my Kel Tec P11. It basically does finishing on parts that should have been done in the factory.

Like the Kel Tec, the Sigma needs a little polishing. There is a video on youtube that shows a similar procedure for the Sigma.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYKBQ4zPHSU&feature=player_detailpage

The video also shows the step by step method to replace the existing striker spring with a lighter one. This guy has the spring for sale on eBay for $19.95 with free shipping or he will do the installation for $49.95. He neglects to tell you that the first pin you need to remove reguires a 1/8 punch not a screwdriver like he tells you. :cuss:

I found the lighter striker spring (Part # 30085) from gunsprings.com for $3.50 plus $4 shipping. I have one on order, but I believe the "Fluff and Buff" made a difference. After shooting the gun, I may not even need to add the lighter spring. I have a Kel Tec P11 which has a 8.5# trigger pull so this does not seem that bad to me. My son-in-law also shot the Sigma and said the trigger was OK. He has a Springfield 1911, XD Compact .40 and SubCompact 9mm. I may still do the spring replacement just to see how much it helps.
 
the spring that was replaced in that video was one of the trigger return/ reset springs and not the striker spring. the striker spring is in the slide which he did not even disassemble.

the mod is super simple- disassemble, remove pigtail spring, remove outer spring from the dual spring setup, replace it with a light spring from a Bic pen (this only serves to keep the inner spring straight and not double over upon compression) at this point you could polish the sear if it seems rough. reassemble.

the biggest culprit in the heavy trigger is that pigtail spring. it's only purpose is to make the trigger heavier and from what I've read it was part of S&W's answer to the Glock lawsuit.

one of these days I'm gonna try a different (lighter) striker spring from a Glock or Steyr and see what that does for the trigger, the last thing one wants is to do though is make a reliable pistol unreliable with light primer strikes.

all in all though I think that at any price under $300. the Sigma pistols are a great value. I only paid $250. thru Buds for my new one after the Smith $50. rebate. I bet used ones can be found for next to nothing.
 
Local shop has 9 and 40 Sigmas on sale for $280.00 this week, and it's hard not to grab one, I've wanted a .40 for awhile.
 
Just a note to those who may be interested: Apex Tactical Specialties (who makes some AMAZING trigger kits for the M&P series - I'm running their full Competition kit in my M&P and love it) recently came out with a spring kit for the S&W SD series which is kind of a hybrid between the M&P and Sigma. When asked about the Sigma line they said that they may be introducing a similar spring set for the Sigma. No details were available (and I know they have a lot of products in the works - mostly for the M&P), but an Apex kit for the Sigma could really bring up attractiveness of that gun.
 
If you can shoot a DA revolver, you will have no trouble with the Sigma. I have a 40VE and have thousands of rounds through it with no feed problems at all. When I bought mine they had the magazine or $50 dollar rebate. I chose the magazines and they ended up sending me 4 of them. I have a Beretta, a Sig, and a FNH Hi Power compact and the Sigma. The Sigma is the only one I have that has not had a jam of any kind.
 
i know that this is off subject but. i want to refinish the slide of a sigma to black and wanted to know weather or not a touch up pen from birch wood Casey would have enough paint/finish in it to refinish the slide ?
 
I picked up a used 9 VE from a guy back from Iraq about 4 years ago. The thing ran great, as I owned a glock 19,I sold the S&W. It shot fine &was a reliable. Last year I was able to buy one for 275.00 w/rebate for 2 extra mag.s. It shoots as well as the other one I had. A very good buy! And it's a S&W.
 
i know that this is off subject but. i want to refinish the slide of a sigma to black and wanted to know weather or not a touch up pen from birch wood Casey would have enough paint/finish in it to refinish the slide ?
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You can't blue a stainless slide. You'll get better results blackening the slide with Duracoat, or the spray & bake finishes from Brownell's.
 
does any one know of a good holster for the sigma ?.just something i can put it in while at the range
 
Can't go wrong as I now know three people I regularly see at the range with them. They eat everything they are fed and are both good range and CCW guns.

-Cheers
 
does any one know of a good holster for the sigma ?.just something i can put it in while at the range
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Most M&P holsters are Sigma compatible. Some HK USP holsters, like the ones made by Fobus, are also M&P compatible.
 
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