Safe Frequency For Shooting Indoors?

[mustang_steve]

I'm also an electronics tech, and can tell you with certainty that if your lead levels are elevated, something is VERY wrong.

Have that Range Owner check his facility, or get the state to check it out for him. I'[d go to a new range when it's all said and done anyways, as it won't be kept that way. He knows the risks and should be having a site survey regularly, which obviously is not happening.

 

[Elvishead]

Well, they make a "detox" clay that they CLAIM removes heavy metals from your body. It doesn't, or at least not in amounts that exceed what would be leaving your body via fecal elimination in any case, with or without the clay. I looked through their information and it's full of half truths, untruths, and pseudoscientific jingoism - in short, bravo sierra.

If these sorts of things only separated the gullible from their money it wouldn't bother me so much. What concerns me is that people with serious or potentially serious medical problems (e.g., elevated lead) fall for this stuff and thereby forego established and proven treatments that will actually help them.

Yep, pseudoscience sold as a "miracle cure" to the unknowing and desperate. Folks who engage in this theft should be beaten senseless and left in the snow to die.

We don't secrete in our sweat significant amounts of "heavy metals" to make this even remotely viable. The only thing this will "purge" is your bank account.

Maybe, but I watched a documentary on a certain parrot that would eat clay, and then eat an otherwise poisonous berries, I think they said it had a natural form of anthrax. I did get some and use it up, it seemed to clear up my complication, not truly sure it works on detoxing but it made my skin better.

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

Years ago I used to go to bullseye indoor range. Their venetalation must not have been up to snuff as most times I left feeling badly from breathing all that smoke and God only knows what else. I havent' been back in close to 20 years. I hope they fixed it.

I would think EPA would strictly regulate indoor ranges for everyones safety.

 

[DickM]

I would think EPA would strictly regulate indoor ranges for everyones safety.

This sort of thing doesn't fall within EPA's regulatory scope - it's handled by OSHA and/or State agencies, typically the Public Health departments. In the extremely unlikely event that the range was emitting lead, or anything else, in amounts that impacted human health or the environment outside of the facility, then EPA would be involved.

That said, I think the last thing we want or need is the government, any government, getting involved in telling us how to run our shooting ranges. All the more reason for range owners and operators to clean up their own act and not give big brother the excuse to stick his nose into it.

 

[smoothdraw]

One of my IDPA buddy also tested of high lead levels. He was asked not to shoot with us for a month. I guess all of us who shoots regularly have to have our blood lead levels checked annually.

Damn i will start bringing extra shirt now on the range so i can change before going home. I'll also start wiping my shoes in addition to washing hands which i already do.

Do you guys think picking brass for reload also contributes to these lead contamination?

 

[twofifty]

Yeah, picking brass coats my fingers in powder and primer residue. There is lead styphnate in the primer residue.


I've had one experience shooting and working an indoor match, and that was enough for me. By the middle of the afternoon, I was feeling nauseated.

Tip-off something was not quite right was that half the competitors wore filter masks all day.

Handwashing:
Where there is running water, I use D-Lead liquid hand soap. Lathers up good and is said to remove most heavy metals. http://www.esca-tech.com

They also sell D-Lead wipes, like baby wipes.

 

[GasX]

I'd be more worried about acute lead poisoning from untrained shooters or weapons malfunctions that I would about chronic environmental exposure lead poisining...

 

[Sam1911]

I'd be more worried about acute lead poisoning from untrained shooters or weapons malfunctions that I would about chronic environmental exposure lead poisining...

Well, there are many of us who shoot quite a lot, and who suffer more greatly from elevated blood lead levels than from being shot by other folks.

Not that a bullet hole isn't a bad thing, but it is still pretty rare. However, a weekly session of poisoning yourself can ruin your life to just about the same degree, given time.

But thanks for sharing that warning, I guess.

-Sam

 

[swede4198]

I shoot in a tactical pistol league weekly at an indoor range and we are inside the range (in front of the normal firing line)for up to 5 hours a week. My blood tested out at 9 which is very good for a shooter. The range demands factory ammo only and it must be "clean fire", "Win Clean" or some form of no lead primer and FMJ rounds. Using the "green" rounds does cost a bit more but it does cut back on the amount of lead you inhale.

You should wash your hands after shooting to get any lead off them before you handle anything.

One of our shooters was a cop who kept a speedloader full of .357 mag rounds for his BUG in a pocket. He also kept some hard candy in that pocket. His doc tested him for lead which was found to be very high. The lead from the nose's of the .357 rounds was transfering to the candy wrappers which then transfered it to his hands. After he quit putting the candy in that pocket his lead levels went down drasticly. Just food for thought.