SAFETY WARNING:Drawstrings on jacket can cause unintentional discharge of firearms

[mgmorden]

Holstering without taking your eyes off the bad guy or the situation around you is the norm in the real world.

If there's still a "bad guy" or the situation is still that tense then you shouldn't be reholstering at all. Once the situation de-escalates to that point then you can take your time to reholster. Alternatively, when law enforcement shows up, they're not going to want you to reholster anyways - they'll want your gun placed out of reach while they deal with the situation.

Draw fast, react fast, but never, ever be in a hurry to put your gun back in the holster.

 

[dogrunner]

And if he's missin' toes, fingers or limps he's likely carried a Glock.

Had a friend TRY to give me a .40 a couple of weeks back....told him I liked my extremities!

 

[Godsgunman]

I understand the reholstering without looking for a LEO, which is obviously a bad habbit to get into which the video shows. He was probably used to not looking to perhaps cuff someone and he did what he had trained himself to do in the gun shop and didn't look. For us non-LEOs we will never need to perform a non-look reholstering because the encounter will be over with either the bad guy incapacitated or fled, or us incapacitated or fled, or gun still trained on the perp when the calvary arrives. Once it's time for a "civilian" to reholster there should be no need to hurry.

 

[ATLDave]

I certainly believe in re-holstering slowly, but I don't think it's accurate to say that there will never be a situation in which a civilian needs to re-holster quickly. For instance, let's imagine that the use of your gun was caused by someone's violence against another person. Perhaps a member of your family was shot by an assailant. Having fended off the attack, you now realize that your family member is bleeding and needs immediate attention to stanch the flow of blood. It obviously does no good to sloppily re-holster and shoot yourself, but would you be able to make yourself slow down and be careful if you thought your family member's life depended on your swift action?

Go slow is a good plan. It might also be good to think about what would happen if you didn't/couldn't go slow.

 

[Strahley]

And if he's missin' toes, fingers or limps he's likely carried a Glock.

Had a friend TRY to give me a .40 a couple of weeks back....told him I liked my extremities!

He can send it to one of my local FFLs and I'll take good care of it. I've carried more Glocks than any other brand and I've never come close to having a ND

 

[GoWolfpack]

If he were hinky enough to have a gun pointed at him one second, even though he now claims compliance, I still look at him as a serious threat until he is fully controlled.

I can't get him cuffed with a gun in my hand, I have to do something with it, but, I have to be thinking he is feigning compliance to draw me in and, it may go back to deadly force any time.

Just reality.

Sure, just wandering around in the woods, at the house at the range, it's ok to look at your holster, but, you don't want that to become habit either. Remember the stories of officers having empty .38 shell casings in their pocket after a shoot out. It became "normal" to drop the empties in your hand and then put them in your pocket after firing a string at the range. Good for reloading, not an effective use of time in a real deal.

Usually the gun goes back in the holster without being fired. He might also have buddies that I don't want to take my eyes off of.

You're clearly a LEO.

I am not.

I do not believe it is tactically sound to reholster if something so dangerous is happening that you can't take your eyes off it.

 

[DT Guy]

Watching that video, I was commenting to my wife how atrocious the 'Chief''s gunhandling skills were..note him pointing his potential purchase directly into his palm, for instance.

And if you watch to the end, you'll note he shot himself once before, leading me to suspect the problem is NOT spelled G-L-O-C-K.


Larry

 

[Nom de Forum]

And if he's missin' toes, fingers or limps he's likely carried a Glock.

Had a friend TRY to give me a .40 a couple of weeks back....told him I liked my extremities!

Your comment is more an indication of your competency than the safety of the Glock manual of arms.

 

[dogrunner]

Now, now, that sure isn't a 'High Road' comment!

 

[ColtPythonElite]

Operator error. Not a design flaw with the weapon.

 

[JRWhit]

With the clear issue stated about NE during re-holstering, we know it is possible and not specifically a Glock problem. I see a potential for a training modification. When holstering a side arm, practice with a stance that does not turn the holster into your leg or toward your foot. For a right handed holster, a habit of favoring the left leg and slightly leaning left could keep the muzzle pointed at the ground instead of appendages while holstering. With a developed muscle memory it would not take any extra effort. Firing into the ground next to your foot wouldn't be pleasant, but it would certainly be better than a new piercing gauged by caliber.

 

[Mr.510]

I choose to carry an XD partially because it has a grip safety. When I re-holster it I rotate my thumb up and put it on the rear sight so the grip safety is not depressed by the web of my hand. I've done this so long it's automatic. I just drew and re-holstered so I could see what I actually do with my hand. lol

 

[wally]

S&W offers most of the M&P lineup with an external safety as an option. Tend to be harder to find because most people don't seem to want them.

 

[leadaddict]

People who don't respect the re-holstering process are always at risk of a discharge, external safety or not. It's not that hard to brush off a manual safety on many pistols, then you have an even lighter trigger on many guns. Glocks and the like without grip, or manual safeties are just less forgiving. However, there's no excuse for not paying attention and the fault definitely doesn't lie with the gun. I chose an XDM to carry because, like many others, I like the extra level of safety and always holster like Mr.510 explained above. I do love my G17 as well though, I just don't carry it very often. It lives by the nightstand.

 

[ATLDave]

It's not that hard to brush off a manual safety on many pistols, then you have an even lighter trigger on many guns.

Pretty hard to do it if you have your thumb under the safety maintaining positive upward pressure. And nearly impossible to do without noticing it.

 

[gamestalker]

I have a buddy that experienced an AD with one. He didn't exactly know how it happened, but I would bet it had something to do with thoughtless handling. Anything we know and practice regarding gun safety needs to be multiplied x 10 with this type of system, IMO.

GS