saturday night specials
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Fishslayer
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I wouldn't mind owning a Raven .25 just to have one. Back in the day they were THE handgun for the gangbangers. Now they carry Glocks.
Hogwash, buying a crate of Rohm RG10s is a sound investment policy! lol
gpwelding1
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good point Jim.
i dont collect them for profit or monitary value though,i just collect them because i like them.
larryh1108
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Exactly!
Esoxchaser
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Back when I was a kid growing up on the lower east side of Detroit, every 'hoodie had a Raven .25. They have now moved on to Glocks.
Junk can still be very valuable. Likewise SNS pistols.
Just to put this into historical perspective: The GCA 1968 did not use the term 'Saturday Night Special', but was designed to ban the importation of small handguns. One of the guns banned was the FN 1910. The same pistol used to assassinate the Arch Duke of Austria. It also banned many fairly expensive pistols, such as the Walther PPK.
Just to put this into historical perspective: The GCA 1968 did not use the term 'Saturday Night Special', but was designed to ban the importation of small handguns. One of the guns banned was the FN 1910. The same pistol used to assassinate the Arch Duke of Austria. It also banned many fairly expensive pistols, such as the Walther PPK.
silversport
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And gave birth to the Walther PPKS... 
Bill
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I doubt it, Glocks while very affordable, are still nothing like the price of a Raven or Ring of Fire merchant. While not exactly a systematic study take a look at the Kentucky State Polices confiscated weapon auctions.
http://www.kentuckystatepolice.org/conf_weapons/index.htm
I seem to have accumulated a few cheap guns, but most of them seem to work okay for their intended purpose - being inexpensive, but functional enough for emergency self defense. I don't carry any of them on a daily basis, but I take them out and shoot them occasionally for fun. The Tanfoglio-made Excam .25 is actually a well-made little pocket gun, as is the Iver Johnson TP-22. The Harrington & Richardson .32 Long revolver works well, and I don't think it ever had a full box of ammo shot through it before I got it. The most powerful is a Lorcin 9mm, which is heavy, awkward, and not particularly accurate past 7 yards, but it goes Bang! ten times in a row, and I got it essentially for free.
rswartsell
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Well...ahem, not being a collector kind of guy and buying what I want to shoot puts a different perspective on this topic for me. I have absolutely NO interest in junk, historically significant junk, profitable junk, Sanford and Son verifiable junk or otherwise. I guess this thread wasn't started with me in mind.
P.S. Smith and Wesson Safety Hammerless revolvers are not junk! There are plenty of knockoffs that are.
P.S. Smith and Wesson Safety Hammerless revolvers are not junk! There are plenty of knockoffs that are.
IllinoisGun
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Saturday Night Special is a anti-handgun term. As a result, they don't exist.
gpwelding1
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this is true,but it appears pretty much everyone knew what i ment.
it was slang for cheap,low quality,not too well made.
but as i have said i like the ones i have.
While it may be true, I think there are valid points about low quality or dangerous products....HOWEVER, that is more with older products and pre-GCA 1968 (then again neither a Walther PPK or that one Glock in 380 are not junk guns). It's weird because the term is so vague and poorly defined it defies categorization (is it Ring of Fire guns, cheap guns, guns that break, guns found in trace reports, poor construction, etc). However, there are guns that were made for a few shots and nothing more, the Liberator is an example. Now how people use them is entirely different. I think we all agree than ANY gun maker who was directly involved in intentionally trying to supply criminals deserve the book thrown at them coughNorincocough, but while people may have gotten them and heck even manufacturers figured that was what many might do, a lot of people bought Raven's because they were cheap, and could sit in a drawer, hopefully never needing to be fired besides a quick function check. They weren't meant to be torture test guns.
It is interesting how guns could be made and sold for 12.95. There is one sitting at my gun dealer for 88 bucks (even has a box and all)...no way I'm getting that after reading numerous comments of people who personally chucked their guns in lakes. In about six years a lot of the GCA banned guns will all be C&R, then it might be a lot easier to collect them. Lord knows filling out a PSP Handgun form for a Rohm is a PITA.
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