Savage long range precision

[flexible]

hi everyone; flexible here; I'm looking at a Savage #12 Long range Precision but I've heard some complaints about the trigger.
Does anyone have any experience with the Savage?
thanks

 

[Laphroaig]

You never stated what the complaints were, but I assume they are regarding the "fin" on the accutrigger. My experience with it is on other Savage rifles, not the #12.

IMO, the accutrigger is an excellent system, very crisp and easily adjustable. The fin is a safety system that apparently rankles some traditionalists. To me, I don't notice it but do notice the other fine qualities of the accutrigger function.

 

[Nature Boy]

If it's the same trigger that's on my model 12 BVSS it's excellent

 

[HOWARD J]

I have a Savage heavy barrel 223 with accu-trigger & a 24
power scope----it is so accurate it is a blast to shoot

 

[ironworkerwill]

Try the factory trigger first. I actually like the accutrigger. If you side load the trigger without engaging the "fin, blade, trigger safety, ect" it will need to be recocked in order to fire. It is a light crisp trigger but does have the side load disadvantage.

There are at least 2 manufacturers that produces whole trigger replacements (Fire Control Group) that is basically a bolt on part that contains the trigger frame, springs, and trigger. They won't work on the bottom bolt release to my knowledge. The price on these are $140+ Sharpshooter Supply and E.Author Brown company are good places to start.

There are at least 3 manufacturers that produces produce TRIGGER ONLY aftermarket triggers that will replace the accutrigger for any bolt action centerfire savage. Midway and similar companies will sell this item along with E. Author Brown just to name a few. $85+

 

[Varminterror]

The Savage Accu-trigger tends to be a "love it or hate it" product. I personally enjoy them. I'm a bit of a traditionalist in that I don't enjoy barrel nut action types, and I'm saddened quite regularly the Savage actions are just so danged heavy, but I have NEVER seen a 10/110 or 12/112 which didn't shoot incredibly well, even with the box-stock factory barrels.

I do want to clarify on ONE very common complaint I have heard about the Savage accu-trigger which is NOT true, and a misunderstanding of an observation some owners have had with their rifles: If you pull the trigger, but not the blade, of a Savage accutrigger, it will move and will click - which many owners misinterpret as the striker being released. HOWEVER, if you do this in the field with a live round, the trigger will click, but the round will not fire. The click is NOT of the striker being fully released, but rather it is the sound of the striker slipping from the trigger to the blade safety. Stealing the line from Bob Lee Swagger - "the gun don't shoot." I have had requests by owners to replace or repair their Accu-triggers because they pulled the trigger without the blade and heard the click - which they assume means the safety had failed. It does not - that click is the sound of the safety properly functioning. ETA - as Ironworkerwill noted above, the appropriate resolution if you DID pull the trigger without the blade is to open and close the bolt to recock the striker, however, if you pull the blade fully (very heavy blade pull compared to normal operation), it will fire even without recocking.

Otherwise, most guys complaining about Savage Accu-triggers are just complaining for the sake of complaining - just like I complain about barrel nut actions.

 

[wally]

My (limited) experience with the pre-Accu-trigger Savages is they are not "drop safe" meaning if a round is chambered and the safety is off, it can fire if dropped on the butt (think AR "pogo" to clear a stuck case). You can increase the trigger weight to require a "harder" drop but with the weights guys who complain about triggers usually want, it only needs about knee-high onto a hard surface.

Try it with a primed case if you've the old model. The Accu-trigger and Ruger's similar are the solution to this drop issue. As a far as I know most shotguns have this issue as well although their triggers are usually heavy enough that its not so easy to demonstrate. Basically the mass of the trigger is enough to "pull itself" under heavy deceleration such as being dropped butt down (muzzle up) on a hard surface. Might also help explain the shift to "plastic" triggers to reduce the mass to make them "safer" (F=mA, lower trigger mass for the same pull weight requires higher deceleration to pull itself).

 

[ironworkerwill]

Wally has a good point. The old style trigger would allow for a unintentional discharge if the rifle was dropped on its butt hard enough.

The old style wasn't the most user friendly to adjust. If a shooter was to adjust the trigger too low, the rifle could discharge while closing the bolt, fire while safe, or not cock at all. I DON'T know if the accutrigger has any if these problems as my knowledge of accutrigger adjustment is terribly limited.

The accutrigger, SOMEWHAT, addresses both problems (maladjustment and butt strike U.D's). The Savage CEO, at the time of the introduction of the accutrigger, dropped a new assembly line rife on its butt from a flatbed truck. He demonstrated that the new rifle's trigger was safer than the old style.

 

[Llama Bob]

hi everyone; flexible here; I'm looking at a Savage #12 Long range Precision but I've heard some complaints about the trigger.
Does anyone have any experience with the Savage?
thanks

The trigger seemed acceptable on the ones I've seen, but the bolt feel was atrocious.

 

[TheRealBen]

IMO, Accutrigger is the standard all other factory triggers are held to. I never noticed the "side load" issue until a friend of mine shot my savage. I feel like you probably shouldn't have your finger around the trigger unless it's a proper trigger press anyway. I have a model 12 that is 10ish years old. It's never let me down and shoots better than I do. I would definitely recommend it.

 

[Varminterror]

IMO, Accutrigger is the standard all other factory triggers are held to.

That might be worth restating - when comparing the bladed sear safety trigger models on the market to the other traditional triggers, it's largely not even a contest. The additional safety allows them to have lower pull weight and less engagement, so they can leave the factory safer AND generally improved compare to traditional triggers.

Now - I'd never go looking to install an aftermarket accu trigger style trigger in any rifle - if I'm going aftermarket, I'm getting something better (although likely not safer). But among factory rifles, the accu trigger types are about as good as it gets.

 

[cfullgraf]

I recently bought a Savage Target Action which has an Accu-Trigger. Savage warns that with the light precision trigger, any excessive jarring such as closing the bolt too hard, will cause the sear to be blocked and the trigger will be "locked" The rifle has to be re-cocked.

I have not finish the build on the rifle as I am still waiting on the barrel and stock so I do not have any experience with the action/trigger yet.

But, I do not see this happening with my standard Model 12's Accu-Trigger. Also, I won't say it cannot happen.

 

[farmerboy78]

The lrp has the precision accutrigger which goes down to 8 ounces if I remember right. I turned mine all the way up to 1 1/2 lbs. Amazingly accurate!

 

[bang_bang]

I've shot several different Savage LRP rifles this year, all are more accurate than I will ever be. I ended up buying a Savage Stealth recently based on my experience with the others. The Accu-trigger is definitely a bonus.