Servicios y Aventuras Primer Poll

[Mr_Flintstone]

I see a lot of discussion about these. Some have had really good experiences, and others really bad, so I thought a poll might be in order.

 

[Charlie98]

You are missing the 'I wouldn't touch those with a 10 foot pole' selection... that would be my vote.

 

[stonebuster]

Servicio SPP I've got mfg 2015 are in green & white packaging and I've had no issues. The OP from the other thread who had issues had Servicio SPP with different packaging. I wonder if his were newer and more problematic. It would be interesting for people who had problems to post year of mtg (or batch #) and packaging type to see if there's a correlation.

 

[Mr_Flintstone]

Servicio SPP I've got mfg 2015 are in green & white packaging and I've had no issues. The OP from the other thread who had issues had Servicio SPP with different packaging. I wonder if his were newer and more problematic. It would be interesting for people who had problems to post year of mtg (or batch #) and packaging type to see if there's a correlation.

I don't know. It would be interesting to know. All the ones I've used have been from the green package as well. When they are gone, I intend to buy some of the new ones, if only to try them and see if they are as good as the others.

 

[Mr_Flintstone]

You are missing the 'I wouldn't touch those with a 10 foot pole' selection... that would be my vote.

So you're saying they shouldn't charge a Hazmat fee because they are so bad that there's no possibility they will explode? That works for me.

 

[AK Hunter]

If you send me some in large rifle I will try them & give you an honest report. LOL
I have never seen them around here.

 

[EricBu]

I've gone through a few thousand now....flawless. All the problems guys have with these are 100% due to not seating deep enough. They can argue all they want...but that's the issue. They are metric, and seat tight. On presses like 1050's, 1100's, and Mark 7's....where you have positive seating with an adjustable primer seating system, there is never an issue with them if your equipment is adjusted correctly. On single stages, presses like the 650/750, or hand priming tools...where folks rely on "feel", they aren't getting seated all the way, because the feedback they are used to tells them it's seated, and it's simply not. If you can't measure at least .003 below flush on a seated primer, then it's not seated all the way, and your odds of a misfire go up dramatically depending on the gun you are using and how heavy the hammer drop is. Striker fired guns are more prone, DAO lightweight revolvers are more prone, guns with lightened hammers or other work (CASS guns for example) are more prone. All will run on these if the primer is seated all the way. If you can't or won't change your loading habits, don't buy them, pretty simple. In the small pistol, or small rifle arena, there is plenty of variety in stock, and no need to use something that doesn't work for you. If you want to use them, I suggest the following: decap your brass before tumbling. Apply a light amount of case lube (for pistol, I use lanolin:99% alcohol at 1:20), and let it dry thoroughly before loading. The cleaner pocket and the light case lube will facilitate easier seating. Prime a couple of pieces and measure the seating depth. This will help you to establish what you should "feel" when seating one of these primers, and you can retrain your muscles accordingly.

 

[stonebuster]

I shot 60 158gr Xtreme RNFP 38spl over 4.3 grains HP-38 using Servicio SPP today out of a Ruger Service Six. Flawless. These were from a 300 round batch I loaded yesterday. I prime them single stage on a Lee Classic turret press. Maybe they seat easier for me because I'm loading brass that's been reloaded many times and the pockets are not as tight as new brass. I don't even clean the pockets.

 

[Zendude]

Which brand of ammo are they commonly used? Maybe Magtech?

 

[EricBu]

I shot 60 158gr Xtreme RNFP 38spl over 4.3 grains HP-38 using Servicio SPP today out of a Ruger Service Six. Flawless. These were from a 300 round batch I loaded yesterday. I prime them single stage on a Lee Classic turret press. Maybe they seat easier for me because I'm loading brass that's been reloaded many times and the pockets are not as tight as new brass. I don't even clean the pockets.

That definitely plays a role as well. These really shine in brass that's been loaded many many times. The SD I see with these on 38 SPL and 357 Mag where I'm using brass that's been loaded 10+ times is simply amazing. The biggest challenge with these is new brass, and you really have to take extra care to make sure they are seated correctly.

 

[Mr_Flintstone]

That definitely plays a role as well. These really shine in brass that's been loaded many many times. The SD I see with these on 38 SPL and 357 Mag where I'm using brass that's been loaded 10+ times is simply amazing. The biggest challenge with these is new brass, and you really have to take extra care to make sure they are seated correctly.

It’s funny you say this. Most of my reloads with these have been on well used .38/357 as well. I don’t even bother to tumble it most of the time, but I always clean the pockets with a Lee primer pocket cleaner. The only brass that I’ve had issues with is new Starline .32 S&W Long, but they were just a little tight. I had a couple failures to fire, but I found out later that they just weren’t seated all the way.

 

[EMC45]

I've gone through a few thousand now....flawless. All the problems guys have with these are 100% due to not seating deep enough. They can argue all they want...but that's the issue. They are metric, and seat tight. On presses like 1050's, 1100's, and Mark 7's....where you have positive seating with an adjustable primer seating system, there is never an issue with them if your equipment is adjusted correctly. On single stages, presses like the 650/750, or hand priming tools...where folks rely on "feel", they aren't getting seated all the way, because the feedback they are used to tells them it's seated, and it's simply not. If you can't measure at least .003 below flush on a seated primer, then it's not seated all the way, and your odds of a misfire go up dramatically depending on the gun you are using and how heavy the hammer drop is. Striker fired guns are more prone, DAO lightweight revolvers are more prone, guns with lightened hammers or other work (CASS guns for example) are more prone. All will run on these if the primer is seated all the way. If you can't or won't change your loading habits, don't buy them, pretty simple. In the small pistol, or small rifle arena, there is plenty of variety in stock, and no need to use something that doesn't work for you. If you want to use them, I suggest the following: decap your brass before tumbling. Apply a light amount of case lube (for pistol, I use lanolin:99% alcohol at 1:20), and let it dry thoroughly before loading. The cleaner pocket and the light case lube will facilitate easier seating. Prime a couple of pieces and measure the seating depth. This will help you to establish what you should "feel" when seating one of these primers, and you can retrain your muscles accordingly.

Awesome explanation. That is what I was thinking as well. I'm wanting to try some of these if I can find them.

I use press priming (Lee Classic Cast primer arm) and RCBS hand priming tool (old one) and I've never had issues. Really the only issue I've seen with priming is when buddies would load progressive and get in a hurry and not seat them all the way.

 

[Soonerpesek]

Awesome explanation. That is what I was thinking as well. I'm wanting to try some of these if I can find them.

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[LV Gun]

I have used 7000 of these already in both colors of packaging just one gun that doesn’t like them but then it gives me issues with CCI and Federal I am going to get a heavier hammer spring for it , when I need more primers I am going to get more of these. I looked this company up on line from what I could tell they are a family owned company and they are a ISO Certified company. They are good primers and like others have said you have to seat them deeper I just apply a little more pressure than I normally would and that has taken care of any issues with FTF’s .

 

[savagemann]

My sample size is small, but I have gone through 100 of these so far with a 100% success rate.
I gave the primers a little extra oomph when seating.
Fired in a Glock 17 gen 3.

 

[2ndtimer]

While my experience with the S~A primers has been 100% with double action revolvers, I have experienced a few failures to fire in a Glock 48. A couple days ago I shot about 60 rounds through the Glock with 100% functioning. Interestingly, they were loaded in Magtech (CBC) brass, also from Brazil. I plan on loading future 9mm ammo with S~A primers in CBC brass, as well as giving extra attention to primer pockets and seating to see if 100% reliability (or close to it) can be achieved. YMMV.

 

[Riomouse911]

During the component drought, I bought 1,500 SA SPP off GB to keep loading for my .38’s.

I had a few issues with the SA primers not firing on the first strike with a couple of .38 DA revolvers. (I hand seat all of primers, these were seated well.) I think they were just a bit harder than the other brands I use (WSP, Federal, CCI are my usuals.)

Since primers have returned to store shelves I haven’t had a need to buy any more SA primers.

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