saiga308
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well as you heard i said feg? at first, no it was the norinco 9mm i was using 124 gr ammo valley reloads and win xpert lead headhollow points 22lr out of the phoenix hp22
shooting from hillside down to sand dune 157 yards norinco 9mm/phoenix hp 22
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well as you heard i said feg? at first, no it was the norinco 9mm i was using 124 gr ammo valley reloads and win xpert lead headhollow points 22lr out of the phoenix hp22
Coal Dragger
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So your goal is to randomly shoot the ground and video the results?
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well the cans got scattered and the plate fell over for the rifle shoot 30-06 just before this that was a 157 yards away with 4 to 4.5 inch barrels
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saiga308
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you do know how hard it is to see a can or paper plate with iron sites from a pistol at 157 yards away?
Coal Dragger
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Yes I do. Do you understand how pointless it is to waste ammunition shooting at a low probability target given your equipment and skill level?
You post a lot of videos of shooting dirt, again unless you’re trying to demonstrate lack of ability or equipment limitations I’m not sure what you’re videoing.
You post a lot of videos of shooting dirt, again unless you’re trying to demonstrate lack of ability or equipment limitations I’m not sure what you’re videoing.
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saiga308
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beats shooting holes in paper a lot boring
dont yah think?Coal Dragger
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Depends on the goal. Paper provides feedback to the shooter so you can actually get better at shooting.
You’re just blasting dirt at a distance you are unable to call a shot at based on your sight picture, much less hit a target at.
Why not put up some B8 bullseye targets at 25 yards and shoot offhand with your pistol? Post up a video of that, see if you can shoot at 90% or better on the scoring rings.
You’re just blasting dirt at a distance you are unable to call a shot at based on your sight picture, much less hit a target at.
Why not put up some B8 bullseye targets at 25 yards and shoot offhand with your pistol? Post up a video of that, see if you can shoot at 90% or better on the scoring rings.
ApacheCoTodd
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After looking at some foreign weapons' sights in our arms room one day, we became fascinated with the maximum stand-off deterrent capabilities (and indirect massed-fire) of all firearms from hand-gun on up. As such, we expended a lot of time and ammunition looking at real-world extreme range shooting doing much like what you're showing here.
Todd.
I noticed you are a lot more accurate with that hipoint; that 9mm is all over the place.
the real problem with big black targets at short distances (25 yards for instance) is the tendency to aim at the whole target rather at a little spot in the center. at 157 yards, the target is already a little spot in the center.
nice shooting. suggest you take more breaks between shots; your shooting was getting real high/low at the end.
fun times,
murf
the real problem with big black targets at short distances (25 yards for instance) is the tendency to aim at the whole target rather at a little spot in the center. at 157 yards, the target is already a little spot in the center.
nice shooting. suggest you take more breaks between shots; your shooting was getting real high/low at the end.
fun times,
murf
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The Kardashans got started with less going for them.
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saiga308
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the 9mm is a China made Norinco 213 not known for any accuratcy the hipoint is a phoenix hp 22 very accurate I am finding out shoot s to the left I have to aim more than 4 feet to the Right to hit close at 150 yards plus
ApacheCoTodd
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I'm one of the lucky ones in that my 213 returns damn fine accuracy. Enough so that it is still with me regardless my attitude about ChiCom, non *bring-back* guns.
It's one of mine that I most love to hate.
Todd.
makes it easy to spot small deviations in your hits, don't it! I shoot my lcp at clay pidgeons 60 yards away to spot and correct deviations in poa/poi. I have a tendency to back off my grip on that gun and checking the hits @ 60 yards gets my grip back to normal.
a full size pistol @ 150 yards is not unreasonable for checking poa/poi, imo.
luck,
murf
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I took the trigger assembly apart lightly filed the sear cut the hammer spring coil 2 rings off that lighten the pull and creep a lot because before that it ,was7 lb pull now say it's about4lbs
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Yes I am showing that range of 150 yards for 4 to 5 inch pistols is max range not worth going any farther then thatGoes to show you. That is too far for that type of pistol shooting. I guess that was the point.Looks like a nice place for shooting though.
LiveLife
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First of all, I do appreciate seeing different firearms shot, especially less common/less popular firearms.
Thank you.
As to posting videos on your Youtube channel, it's a free country ... I think sharing your hobby with others is great, especially of different shooting areas while you are trucking through the country. (Believe me, my remote rural area stores would have empty shelves and we would go hungry if it weren't for truck drivers - happened a few times)
But as to posting shooting videos on a gun forum, it's a little different. Sure, THR is a public forum where different people come together to hang out and share information. And as other members already posted, many of us would appreciate some standardized range testing, not to see how good of a shot you are, but to see comparison to other firearms.
So in addition to your regular video footage, adding 7-10 yard 5-10 shot groups for pistol and 100 yard groups for rifle would be appreciated. Many Youtube posters do the same having fun with longer than typical shooting distances and/or crazy fast rapid firing but will also do accuracy testing on paper targets at defined distances like this video at 12:00 minute mark.
I am currently doing a "real life" break in and accuracy testing of a new Ruger 10/22 along with comparison testing of cheapest bulk 22LR ammunition to share with THR members (17 brands/models and counting). While I am not the best shooter, especially with aging eyes and factory trigger, the defined shooting at 25-50 yards of 10 shot groups give THR members comparison accuracy between ammunition after the barrel was sufficiently warmed up so THR members could follow shot group progression from cold barrel to warm barrel - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lector-3-break-in.859106/page-2#post-11310458
Here is one sample of targets from cold barrel to warm barrel for ammunition comparison (I used to use 5 shot groups for accuracy testing but was convinced by many THR members to use 10 shot groups which provided more information on target - Many of these 10 shot groups started out with 5 shot group size that was less than half the size of 10 shot groups)
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I watch a lot of his videos he a real good shot much better then I 
ApacheCoTodd
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In the Army, we started getting weird after being bored one range week. We had a pile of .45 ACP tracer (and 9mm) which was originally loaded for one particular sub-cal device or other but were shooting it out of 1911s and .45 sub machine guns instead - for fun.
We got to watching the arcs and grew curious about them.
Because of this and BSing around a fire about the exceptional range settings on some rifles AND tangent sighted guns we tried over the course of several days to see the real world application of that.
Now, we knew that the rifles had the ridiculous ranges for massed, azimuth directed indirect-fire because we had it in old manuals. We deuced that the tangent pistols were equipped as such for deterrent fire in an almost indirect-fire application as well.
Here, imagine underarmed artillery crewman needing to dissuade an aggressor until help arrives.
In any case, one of the coolest things to come out of our musings over those cold days was that one of our Heavy Weapons guys built firing tables for indirect fire of .45 ACP and 9mm (also lots of the weird sub-cal rounds for that) as an exercise against boredom. I wish I still had them or if I do - knew where the hell they are.
Todd.
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saiga308
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I was in us army between 1980 to 83 Germany Nike missle site as a truck bus driver to take the troops each day to the mountain site from the barricks would of love to see one of those take off at close range
don't limit yourself. ihmsa (international handgun metallic shooting association) shooters fire at targets 200 meters away. your distance is a good one to hone your shooting skills, but saying that is your limit is, well, limiting.
a lot of people are afraid to go beyond "standard". you are not one of these people.
luck,
murf
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saiga308
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ok I'll.try
.you teased me next time out iI'll be using canik 9mm and tz 75 best shooters I got 200 yards
ApacheCoTodd
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A big problem on insufficiently sighted guns is repeatability.
Try this:
Hold your pistol two handed, in this case say a 1911.
Assuming right handed
Place your left thumb on the forward-lower arch of the trigger guard.
Insert your right index through the trigger guard enough to rest over the thumb. For me, just behind the thumbnail.
Use the top edge of your trigger finger to note the angle of the pistol relative to points on the controls on the left side of the 1911.
This'll give you fairly decent repeatability if your grip holds true.
Think of it as Bubba's M203 sight on an M-16.
Todd.
LiveLife
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Doesn't matter how good of a shot you are, you would be doing your version of "comparison" testing between firearms.I watch a lot of his videos he a real good shot much better then I
And trust me, many THR members are not good shot either.
And many posted pictures of target groups are best groups not their worst groups. Many THR members would laugh at my mediocre 25-50 yard groups larger than 1/2" to 1" using cheap ammo as they would push for 1/4" to 1/2" groups for accuracy using premium ammo but I don't care. I am doing my "real life" testing with factory stock 10/22 for the average members who can't spent several hundred dollars upgrading and accurizing their 10/22.
That's what matters to me.
Even though my group size may not be impressive, I am quite certain the average THR member will be able to determine which cheap ammunition will shoot smaller groups out of their 10/22 based on my testing.
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