Short action vs Long Action

[ArmedBear]

You can extend your PBR out to 250 or even 300 yards

Damn near any necked round used for hunting medium to large game has a MPBR over 250 yards. The flat-nose .30-30 comes close, even.

The .270 WSM's claim to fame is that it pushes PBR up past 300, into the land of the Weatherby Magnums, Remington Ultra Magnums, etc.

Does an extra 50 yards of PBR matter? I mean, will you be taking quick shots at more than 275 yards without knowing the range, but also knowing that the range is less than 325? I suppose that depends on terrain and other such factors. Once you get past 200 yards, I'll be the first to admit that I have no really good idea of how far away something is without the Nikon laser prosthetic in my pocket.

 

[Master of Arms]

Lots of .308 guys out there.

 

[ryoushi]

.260 Rem - 7mm-08. Powerful enough for my kind of hunting and easy on the shoulder for a long day at the range. Very very accurate.

 

[Master of Arms]

Plus, I disagree with the oft-claimed allegation you repeat here that the 7mmWSM and .300 WSM beat the Remmags - I don't believe they do

Believe it or not but the ballistics say they do.

As for .300 mags, man that's just way overkill AFAI am concerned, unless maybe hunting goats out in the some high barren mountains where you cannot get any closer than 350 yards without the goat seeing you.

Overkill???? My friend shot a very,very nice 8 point whitetail from about 300 yards with a 25-06 the bullet went only about 10 inches into the animal. The shot was bad because he hit it from the left rear quarter panel but had he been using a .300 mag the buck would have been on the ground instead of me tracking it from a good position wind wise and dropping it in its tracks with my 45-70. You`ve a right to your opinion but don`t complicate the question and try to do a little research to establish a fact to back-up your points before claiming a misfire about mine because the text that you`ve read in my question came straight from two expert sources.

 

[skinewmexico]

Sounds to me like your friend had a bullet failure, not a caliber failure. And if you run most factory WSM ammo over a chrono, you won't get the published velocities. You sure won't with handloads.

 

[Deer Hunter]

No, that sounds like a bad shot your friend made on that whitetail.

Whitetail are not hard to kill, but they will run if you don't hit them right. Bullet didn't go far, that's the bullet's fault. But 10 inches is enough to down a white tail if you hit them right.

 

[Master of Arms]

Mexico, I know that different ammo has different numbers but the numbers listed on the ballistic chart at Gun and Ammo website are a very good estimated average and when they very closely match two other ballistic charts it leads me to believe. I`ll admit that I dislike the 25-06 caliber and that it is enough to put down a whitetail but so is a .22 long and this really has nothing to do with the question. My point was that a .300 mag shouldn`t be labled "overkill" for hunting in America, in fact it`s a rediculous statement but this also has nothing to do with the question, LOL. Also, the loads can be adjusted for a wide variety of game, distance, etc. I didn`t get the ballistics and make an assumption with my question. I read an article on the question and copied and pasted the exact statements and facts from the article to THR after I did a little research using a few ballistic charts among other things, to see what kind of responses I would get. I wish that people would do a little research on the subject before they answered and not use the "just cause" type answers because they "think" they`re correct. Check for yourself using any means necessary and let me know what you find in the comparison between short and long action. I always listen therefore I learn.