Should LEOs have more "rights" than non-LEOs?

Should LEOs be exmept from many gun laws like the ones listed? Please explain.

  • Yes.

    Votes: 43 8.0%

  • No.

    Votes: 497 92.0%
  • Total voters
    540
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OK. I am man enough to admit that I was guilty of the same thing that I accused cops of doing: I underestimated your experience. I still stand by my original assertion that I doubt you spend all day as a cop dodging bullets though. It's not that you might not ever, or even never have had to do it; it's the blatant exagerration that bugs me.

I will also say that your right when you say that I might not be right simply because I have something to say. However, in this particular case, 308 people seem to agree with me, and only 31 seem to agree with you. If nothing else, I have numbers on my side.
 
LEO's should be subject to all the same laws as others in all matters, especially when it comes to firearms (IOW, no post-86 machine guns, no exemptions, etc., for LEO's).
 
I was a police officer for 12 years, but my position on the subject is that police officers should have to obey ALL of the same gun laws we do, even while on duty.

Because Georgia requires a license to openly carry a firearm, I believe police officers should have to obtain one.

Of course, I do not believe that any place should be off limits to carry, but if it is, it should be off limits to police officers as well (the inside of a jail comes to mind).

:D
 
Why? That would just increase the bureaucracy just to rubber stamp a piece of paper. It is part of the job. It would be a better fight to change the licensing law.
 
Police already have more rights than the proles....that is that they can arrest people for a misdemeanor.

Any citizen can arrest another citizen if he witnesses a felony crime.

All the rest of the crap that cops (and especially BP) have to endure seem like more of a burden for a paycheck than a right or power.

The ridiculous and uncontitutional laws that they are ordered to enforce, whilst simultaneously ignoring the hordes of illegal invaders present in our country makes me view them more like Hessians every day.

D.
 
I would like to rephrase the question, please. No man has more rights than any other man, and no law can change that.

The question could be rephrased, "Should LEOs be granted extra powers and privileges?"
 
Within reason, guys.

Same rights for all but LEOs should be recognized differently - as in, they are allowed to walk about in courtrooms with loaded guns strapped to their sides. Courtrooms places of heated argument.. you get the point.
 
So schools, bars, restaurants, and other places where people may get into a heated argument should be off limits? I have seen some pretty heated discussion in the car between my parents. I guess nobody should be allowed to carry in their car.

Only cops are professional enough to carry in those places.
 
Yes

Yes - They should have the right to wear a personal recorder to record everything they do and say in their official capacity. If they forget to turn it on they should have the right to be fired and lose any deferred compensation (i.e. pension) that they have accumulated.
 
Wayne Conrad offered a vast improvement in the basic question, but here's another perspective:

We the non-cops are restricted in more ways than cops are restricted. It's logical for the cops to not be restricted. It's less logical for the citizenry as a whole to be as restricted as we are.

IOW, it's a wrong-end-to to be worrying about what cops can or can't do. That's just envy/jealousy--and wrongfully aimed at the cops.

Talk to your legislators and city councils. That's where the problems are.

Art
 
Afterwards usually nobody hates u (unless you are a really bad auto mechanic but that's another story) so you are free to roam the earth. As an LEO that door of quiting time is never closed.

Dealing with bank robbers ,drug runners, rapist, murderers ext you gain a lot of resentment from these fellas and they will make it clear. During my 20 year career my Family has been harassed 5 times that I can remember of just because of the fact I Placed some of these dirt bags off the street.

One of these had the cojones to walk up to me years latter and threaten me as i held my 3 year old son while shopping with my fam in a shopping center.
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While I understand the need for an LEO to have access to his or her weapon at any time or any place, how is this situation different than the man I fired coming up to me at my daughter's school during a band concert and threatening to kill me because of my actions at my job? Short answer: it is not.

I understand that law enforcement is dangerous; however, other people's jobs can be dangerous as well. The job alone does not qualify as a distinction. If an LEO can carry a pistol to protect himself and his family at a school, I want the same right to be extended to me.
 
Do they [felons] have the right to free speach? (sic)
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It is limited to varying degrees while in prison.
How about the right to a speedy trial?
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At that stage they are not yet felons.
Can the military quarter in their homes?
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If for some reason it was made a condition of probation? Most likely yes.

Should doctors have access to better health care?
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By law? No way.
As a matter of private behavior – that’s their business.

One possible reason for a (tactical) Yes vote: any privileges granted to cops are very unlikely to ever be repealed. And the more privileges there are, the more obviously unfair it will be, and that should make it easier to advance our position politically.
 
Farscot

I totally agree with your statement, but some people here think that by bitching and complaining about cops carrying on or of duty, It will help them in their cause to advance fwd.:confused:

They need to put the heat at the pansy Lawmakers not the law enforcers. These thread of US vs Them always show how childish some full grown men can be sometimes.

And frankly I think that's why politicians don't give a rats punani about gun rights anyways.

We spend to much time nagging on each other instead of holding the people we put in power accountable for their actions.
 
The Amigo: We are just asking for equality. I see us as modern day civil rights workers. As you said it is the lawmakers we need to call.

However the law ENFORCERS need to realize that they should not be enforcing these laws. Anytime a cop arrests someone on a gun charge of any sort they are enforcing an illegal law and infringing on someones rights. Just as you said in the other thread about the man at the playground you must realize that infringing on your rights is wrong. However when you infringe on ours it is just as wrong.
 
Tecumseh

My friend I understand your point of view. But whats legal is one thing and whats we think is right is another. Its what the book says and not what my heart feels that the judge will enforce on.

For example I hate child molesters and believe all shall have the crap beaten out of them and be out of society for ever. However the law says I cant beat the crap out of him and must arrest and take to a fair trial even if I'm 100% this guy is guilty. I can only do what the book says (aka the law)

I know the 2nd amend says what it says, but society has authorized politicians to piss all over their rights, by allowing them to make these nonsense laws. I understand you want equality or rights and that is so right to happen but i don't understand how striping me of carrying off duty will advance your cause.

Most wars are won by numbers and good strategical tactics and last time time I checked when u subtract it means less. How will subtracting LEO,s from CCW off duty will archive the goal of national CCW for everyone? To me its not strategically smart. To ask for equal rights is ok to strip others from the goal you are trying to reach is just not good math. We need to walk fwd not back.
 
The Amigo: We are not stripping you of rights. We are just stripping you of priveledges. They are not rights until they are able to be exerrcised by everyone. When you enforce aunjust law you are committing a crime. Whether it is in the legal code or not is irrelevant from an ethical standpoint.
 
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