Glenn Berryhill
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We have open carry here in Texas but I've never seen fit to go that route. Concealed carry in all 50 states, absolutely.
Should Open Carry Be the Law of the Land in All 50 States?
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I should have qualified my statement with, unless I'm working. But then that's my uniform...
Bazoo
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I am pro open carry, if open carry means carrying a handgun in a holster while in town. I'm not pro open carrying an assault rifle into Walmart "because you can". I suppose even then, if the rifle was slung over your back it wouldn't be an issue. But carrying a rifle at the ready is akin to walking around with a handgun in your hand at the ready. Seeing a person with a rifle slung would raise an eyebrow from me, seeing someone with a gun in hand, handgun or rifle, would put me on high alert.
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Wherein Trump once again demonstrates a lack of understanding of the topic about which he speaks.Think this should be the Law of the Land in All 50 States...
A driver’s license works in every state because the states entered into a common agreement. Big Daddy Fed didn’t pass a mandate.
A federal government that can mandate a carry permit can also mandate which rules you have to follow. The last thing I want is to have NY, MD or NJ rules imposed on my state.
The problem with that thinking is that the potential for misuse/abuse of the system is inherent in anything that's considered a "right". If we made anything that people had the potential to screw up illegal, we'd all live in prison cells. Freedom is dangerous. People can take advantage of it to do stupid things or hurt or kill other people. That doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater, it means that we should take responsibility for our actions and encourage others, through non legislative means, to do the same.
Pistolay
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I'm one of those people who voted no, but it was because I read "should open carry be the law" as a requirement to open carry. Once I realized that I misread the question, there was no way to change my vote. So to answer your question, I don't think it should be any bit illegal, although I wouldn't do it.
I wondered about that. The poll question wasn't worded very clearly, but that's how polls are lots of times.
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Did the states entered into a common agreement on the rest of the Bill of Rights?
Just checking.
Yes. That's part of the criteria for a territory to become a state.
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Open and Concealed Carry are the law of the land according to the United States Constitution.
Everything else is a Infringement and unconstitutional
Everything else is a Infringement and unconstitutional
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....same here. The idiots who do carry the "assault rifle" into Walmart are very few in in between, yet, many of those that oppose open carry want us to believe that they are the majority. Responsible gun ownership is responsible gun ownership and it goes hand in hand with common sense. I see a lot of irresponsible CWC folks too, yet I don't condone the practice of CWC just because of those few irresponsible folks. Nor do I seek out the same worn out pic on the Internet in attempt to prove how silly the practice is.
Elkins45
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I suspect you will have a hard time finding a Constitutional law expert who will agree that full and unrestricted access to and carry anywhere of all types of firearms by all persons was what the Constitution intended. Just like you won’t find one who thinks libel and slander are protected speech. No rights are absolute.
I agree that CCW should be legal in all states, but the courts have yet to tell me if they interpret the Constitution the same.
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To add to what @Elkins45 stated, the Constitution gives SCOTUS the right to interpret the Constitution. What they interpret the Constitution to mean in fact becomes constitutional despite our personal albeit worthless opinions about it. Period.
When SCOTUS interpreted in Heller, McDonald, and Bruen that "Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose," it become constitutional for the government to put some limitations on the 2nd Amendment. Also, newsflash, their has historically ALWAYS been some limitations to the 2nd Amendment.
A lot of gun owners are very idealistic abd have views and opinions that aren't realistic or factual.
gwpercle
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The state of Louisiana has always had Legal Open Carry .
I was born and raised here , lived my whole 74 years in this state ...
Legal Open Carry never bothered me one iotta ...
It is a right I enjoy having .
Why does it bother you so much ?
Gary
I was born and raised here , lived my whole 74 years in this state ...
Legal Open Carry never bothered me one iotta ...
It is a right I enjoy having .
Why does it bother you so much ?
Gary
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2A was "political" when it was first adopted.
Ditto.
Bearing arms in your jock strap or brassiere or openly has been legal since December of 1791. This goes for anyone whose rights have not been curtailed for other reasons, like conviction for bank robbery. I have long voiced the opinion that Darwin will out, and ne'er-do-wells will have their rights curtailed soone or later, perhaps for eternity.
I frivolously call this my Billy The Kid theory of gun control. Billy the Kid killed six or seven people before he was 22, and then stopped killing altogether.
Darwin caught up with him at that point.
I am also fond of pointing out that the Valentine's Day Massacre removed six or seven people from criminal behavior by "The Thompson Method" without any court costs or prison costs to society. I suppose, however, that someone got paid for pulling the bodies out of that garage and cleaning up the blood and spent cases.
I hesitate to point out that 2A has been incorporated to the States and is very short ande concise... it's almost as if the country's inventors meant it literally.
I also hesitate to point out that the main problem with all this is the fact that for about the last century, too many lawmakers have been consistently violating their oaths of office by proposing and voting for legislation which is facially unconstitutional, but must undergo extremely time-consuming and expensive legal processes to get the question to the Supreme Court for its say-so. If it doesn't refuse to "cert" it.
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I agree, assuming that nothing in your statement has anything to do with laws.
My view:
1. Should be legal
2. Incredibly stupid and counterproductive and risky unless in the field (as hunting - done that).
3. If you open carry a rifle in today's world, you are an idiot unless in the field. If the gun comes off your shoulder , prepare to be shot.
It's that simple.
1. Should be legal
2. Incredibly stupid and counterproductive and risky unless in the field (as hunting - done that).
3. If you open carry a rifle in today's world, you are an idiot unless in the field. If the gun comes off your shoulder , prepare to be shot.
It's that simple.
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LOL, execution is the only way to ensure you don’t have repeat offenders…
Is a law that’s a little broken like a woman that’s slightly pregnant?
The relationship between crime and punishment sure seems to have changed over the years.
At least one poster who voted "no" did so because he misunderstood the poll to mean that open carry should be legally mandated. Given the way it was worded, I'll bet there were others who thought the same.LOL, execution is the only way to ensure you don’t have repeat offenders…
Is a law that’s a little broken like a woman that’s slightly pregnant?
The relationship between crime and punishment sure seems to have changed over the years.
Pistolay
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It should have been worded "should open carry be legal" rather than "should open carry be the law of the land."
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Culture and values have shifted. Good parenting (teaching responsibility, restraint, consequences, service) doesn't seem to be consistently supported or even valued as widely in our society today. Our current societal challenges would seem to reflect that change.
Unless we embrace the principles of morality and self governance, my mood toward this particular thought experiment (open carry as law of the land) could best be described as "cautious".
John Adams said, “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
Unless we embrace the principles of morality and self governance, my mood toward this particular thought experiment (open carry as law of the land) could best be described as "cautious".
John Adams said, “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
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