SHTF Rifle Poll

SHTF emergency rifle you use

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I would use either an AK in 7.62 X 39 or an AK in .223. Depends on if I was planning on leaving the area. The .223 AK would go with me if I was on the move because I could scrounge .223 ammo more easily.
7.62 X 39 Sar-1
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.223/5.56 Saiga AK
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I vote for NONE OF THE ABOVE. Having one of these weapons will matter little. I'll stick to my bolt and lever actions.
 
All right, I'll play, even though over the years I've grown to have a distaste for these "what's your one SHTF rifle" threads.

While I love my FAL and its proclivity to turn cover into concealment, for most things I'd probably turn to my SKS, because it's an overall lighter and less cumbersome system than the FAL is.

If it's just getting meat in the stew pot, though, I think I'd have to turn to my Remington 552 .22 rifle with a fixed 4x scope on it.

Whatever it is, if it's a centerfire rifle and I can't reload for it with H4895, I don't want it.
 
I'll go with an AR platform rifle on this one for adaptability, common ammo, and common magazines.

I would also feel very comfortable with a SIG 556, in fact for rough use I would rather have that than an AR. Uses the same ammo and magazines though.

I like the .223 with the right bullets for a wide range of tasks, and any that can't be accomplished with a .223 my .308 SSG 69 will take care of nicely. Both can be reloaded with the same powder too (I use RL 15) which is nice.
 
accurate bolt gun with a nice scope, id rather bad guys be 600 yards away from me, shotgun and pistols for home defense. An mp5/ump or something if i found one
 
In situations like SHTF, stay away from the highways, get a bicycle, find a water supply - a well or running stream - with a means of purifying it. First aid equipment, compass, GPS but batteries run down, and all the other stuff for surviving in the country. You can have the best guns and ammo and die of thirst or from organisms in most water supplies. A .22 lr is a must whether rifle or pistol. And then you want to start finding a community of like minded people you can trust. No man is an island unto himself. Oh yes, a bible.
 
The KIND of gun is almost irrelevant. Suffice that there is a gun, ammo and skill.

Long-term survival of any serious SHTF situation will depend on one's neighbors as much as on one's own individual capabilities. If you really believe in the probability of such an event, you should already have moved to a location which meets the well-known parameters, have become involved with neighbors, and would not need to ask questions here. :)

If it's all a mystery at this late date, I dunno what to tell you. :D It's far beyond the purpose of this website.
 
If it's all a mystery at this late date, I dunno what to tell you. It's far beyond the purpose of this website.
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heh, there it is
 
In a SHTF scenario, I want to have food and water first!!! As far as weapons, any well maintaned firearm will do. Since most of us will leave our high dollar toys in the safe. I choose an AR with the AK a close second. 600 yard shots and farther are hard to make consistently when you are a fraid and pumped full of adrenaline from a disaster event in this country. Remember, true snipers are execellent at concealment and evasion. At ranges under 200 yards, all of them a good choices.
 
You're gonna need to re-do this thread with a new poll, with a lot more choices - use the full 16 choices in the poll, and make sure to include the Robinson XCR. And you need to leave calibers out of your choice, since AR15s, AR10-styles, and AKs come in so many different calibers. You'd need around 100 poll choices, not 16, for that. Just put: AR15, AR10, AK, XCR, M14, M1 Garand, etc., etc. Otherwise, you won't show the choice of around half of people in that poll.

Edit: Lol, oops, nevermind; it's a 2-year old thread - ha!
 
It's a catch 22 situation about location and community. You go where the jobs are unfortunately. A lot of people work in the cities - how to get out of them is the question. Forget about a car - motorcycle or bicycle. Large groups of people panic and do really stupid things. You might have to shoot your way out of situations. Look at what happened in New Orleans. What if the police - after a long absence - come to confiscate your legally own firearms?
 
China only has 20 nuclear warheads, and no MERVS. 10 of these warheads are on ICBMs (intercontinental ballistic missiles) and only 5 of these have the capability to reach the US mainland. Then some of these would be shot down by AEGIS anti-Missile ships that that are very near China in the Pacific. So China lacks the ability to engage in a nuclear war with the US, let alone a conventional war.
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Really? Can you link to a reliable source for that info? Just curious:)

As for the poll, I went with AR because it was what Unk Sam trained me on, and I have a nice M4gery with a couple of K of m193. More than I ever expect to shoot, but I expect barter to be a thriving process in that scenario.
 
i didn't vote.

i hardly think the choice of weapon is going to matter in a SHTF scenario. if you've trained and planned ahead (and get a little lucky too), you can get by with any of those listed and many more that aren't.

if you don't have a plan, you probably won;t get through it with an abrahms tank.
 
I think in a SHTF scenario the real factor isn't what kind of firearm to use because in the hands of a competent shooter all the listed firearms are deadly. The issue becomes more about ones willingness to engage the enemy. Any of the listed firearms would be useless if in the hands of someone unwilling to pull the trigger.
 
None of the above. My Mini 14 & my AR in .223, and my AK in 7.62 are all ready to go at all times. It used to be just my Mini 14.
 
I picked an AK, for a few reasons.

1) I already have one, and that's important.
2) No matter how reliable ARs are, AK's just do not break, under any circumstances a human can possibly pull it out of.
3) If it does break, I seriously, literally, could fix it overnight at the longest.
4) Ammo. .223 is great and all, but in some sort of rebellion/last stand/Equilibrium situation, we won't be getting resupplied by anyone that issues 5.56! We'll have what we can grab at the store and capture, and if anyone comes to our aid it will be from Warsaw counties.
 
I don't think the particular weapon will matter much. In fact a handgun, a large dog and the food to maintain it might go a lot farther than the latest, greatest EBR. Bad guys are opportunists who will try to ambush the weakest, easiest and most tempting targets they can find.

As others have already mentioned, having a large group of neighbors, family or friends would also be invaluable. If you've got 20 people supporting you, you'll do OK even if you're only armed with old Mosin Nagants, but if you're just one guy, they'll wait until your guard is down and take you out then. We all have to sleep, shower and work and we all get sick.
 
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