hollowpointt
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I am considering trading my Glock 22 to help with the purchase of a Sigpro 2022 in 40 S&W. Why I guess just for a change. I own three other Glocks but do not have a Sig. Help talk me into it or out of it.
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I believe that you'll eventually reap great rewards by making your own decisions on matters like this. There's absolutely nothing that anybody could say that should sway how YOU feel about your firearms. How does the Sig feel in your hands? Have you fired a Sig? Why do YOU want a Sig?
HighVelocity
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Regardless of manufacturer, caliber or whatever...
If you own a firearm that is of good quality, functions reliably and that you are proficient with then why trade it away for an unknown?
If you own a firearm that is of good quality, functions reliably and that you are proficient with then why trade it away for an unknown?
Keep the GLOCK
The G22 is the most popular handgun in law enforcement today (possibly in history).
The reasons are many: low bore axis, consistent trigger pull from first to last shot, reliability, durability, ease of maintenance, combat accuracy, and value. I would pick the G22 over a SIG Pro. GLOCK, with the 1911 also dominate "practical" shooting competition and use in shooting schools. There's a reason for those two choices.
Detractors will bring up criticisms about catastrophic failure for an "unsupported barrel". While there is some truth to this, the problem is overblown given the 10s of thousands of G22s that serve safely and reliably every day.
In my opinion, the 9mm GLOCKs, as GLOCK was originally designed, are superior to their .40 counterparts. Aside from the design perspective, I would also suggest that the .40 offers little in significant improvement over the 9mm parabellum.
Good luck with your decision. We've all made bad ones that were soon regretted as well.
The G22 is the most popular handgun in law enforcement today (possibly in history).
The reasons are many: low bore axis, consistent trigger pull from first to last shot, reliability, durability, ease of maintenance, combat accuracy, and value. I would pick the G22 over a SIG Pro. GLOCK, with the 1911 also dominate "practical" shooting competition and use in shooting schools. There's a reason for those two choices.
Detractors will bring up criticisms about catastrophic failure for an "unsupported barrel". While there is some truth to this, the problem is overblown given the 10s of thousands of G22s that serve safely and reliably every day.
In my opinion, the 9mm GLOCKs, as GLOCK was originally designed, are superior to their .40 counterparts. Aside from the design perspective, I would also suggest that the .40 offers little in significant improvement over the 9mm parabellum.
Good luck with your decision. We've all made bad ones that were soon regretted as well.
hollowpointt
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My goodness you guys are on the ball today these are all very good answers to a question I probably have thought about for to long already. Thanks and it is still fun to read others opinions.
My goodness you guys are on the ball today these are all very good answers to a question I probably have thought about for to long already. Thanks and it is still fun to read others opinions.
Old Dog
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Not for all the reasons Curare states. Primarily because of the sharp marketing techniques Glock used, and the incredible pricing offered to law enforcement agencies. Glock offered to buy up agencies' duty issue handguns and gave huge price breaks to agencies as a means to gain a major share of the LE market. Glock offered a simple mechanism which was an easy platform for novices to learn plus a firearms that was low-maintenance and these factors made the Glock highly attractive to LE.
Glock has a large share of the LE market, and offers a reliable, reasonably accurate and user-friendly platform, but its share of the LE market is not due to the fact that Glock is the best pistol out there.
Rent the SIGs, or borrow a friend's ... once you've put a few hundred rounds downrange with a SIG, you'll find you may be one of those folks for whom the SIG grip is the best-feeling grip out there. For some of us, the higher-price of SIGs as compared to Glock, is well worth it.
I've owned several .40's over the past few years and the best one far and away is my Sig P226ST.
Save your pennies for a few weeks and get a classic Sig or the stainless model. Worth the extra money because you will never start a thread with 'thinking of trading my P226'.
Save your pennies for a few weeks and get a classic Sig or the stainless model. Worth the extra money because you will never start a thread with 'thinking of trading my P226'.
People feel more secure when explaining GLOCK's dominance in LE, competition, shooting schools, and civilian self defense on marketing and a cheaper price.
Too bad SIG started using MIM hammers and sears. You have to cut corners somewhere to keep up with the market share leader.
Too bad SIG started using MIM hammers and sears. You have to cut corners somewhere to keep up with the market share leader.
runninmike
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hollowpointt-
I would trade if I were you, as you mentioned, you have 3 other Glocks, and you'll get to experience another great gun. That's what gun enthusism is about!
Anyway-Sigs are great! I have and love a P220, almost got a Sigpro, but went for the 220.
Best-MC
I would trade if I were you, as you mentioned, you have 3 other Glocks, and you'll get to experience another great gun. That's what gun enthusism is about!
Anyway-Sigs are great! I have and love a P220, almost got a Sigpro, but went for the 220.
Best-MC
Old Dog
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Really? That's why I said what I said? Hmm, perhaps you may want to do some research as to how Glock made its inroads in the U.S. law enforcement market, then.
Simple numbers do NOT connote "dominance," be it how many pistols sit in LE holsters, are used by students or staff in shooting schools or bought by civilians. As far as competition, Glock is hardly dominant in anything other than the number of its pistols in use ... Oh, of course, there does exist the GSSF events, where all the competitors shoot Glocks ...
And certainly, marketing and price have everything to do with the numbers of Glocks sold and in use.
Proclaiming any item as the superior product in its field simply because there are many or more of them out there is fallacious reasoning.
Of course, perhaps you think that Dodge Neon or Honda Civics are the "dominant" automobiles in existence?
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I must be the exception to the rule. That had nothing to do with why I bought my first GLOCK or the four others I have added since.
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I would keep the G22. Glock's inexpensive price isn't the only reason it holds a large share of the LE market. If price alone were the determining factor LE would all be armed with Jennings. Glock makes a high quality product but it isn't perfect, nothing made by man will ever be perfect. Buy what you like and enjoy it.
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Curare said:
Vex
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My honest sig opinion on this sig matter is that the sig glock is somethin that people either sig like or they sig dont like, but i haven't sig met anyone who sig doesnt like a sig sig because it's "cheap" sig or "too big" or sig "not accurate" sig. I won't tell you sig what to buy, i might sig hint around a little.... but you sig need to make your sig own choice sig.
Exactly. If your agency is big enough or if your budget for the department is small, this can be a big difference. We all know that not even LE agencies are exempt from the bean counters.
Glock is a simple platform to operate. I work for a private investigation agency that also has security guards. The security guards who work armed are required to carry a G17 or a G19. The Glock is simple to operate, they're not expensive and parts are relatively inexpensive in the event that something breaks or if you want to modify it.
Is the Glock a good weapon? Yes, it is. Is the Sig a good weapon. Yes, it is. Personally, I'm a believer in diversity. That's why I have a Glock, Sig and an H&K. I'm thinking that Kimber might be next...
IDPA is dominated by 1911 and GLOCK. Shooting schools like Gunsite and Thunder Ranch are dominated by 1911 and GLOCK. Contractors in Iraq who make six figure salaries choose GLOCK. GLOCK has roughly 80% of the law enforcement market in the United States. Serious shooters who are concerned about absolute reliability and ease of use will continue to choose the tool-like GLOCK in overwhelming numbers.
Other manufacturers including SIG, HK, Smith and Wesson, and others continue to trip over themselves to bring a competitive product to the marketplace. They've tried to bring a competitive polymer frame, they've tried to bring GLOCK-like triggers (DAK, LEM), but they just can't be competitive with GLOCK.
I've owned and sold HKs, SIGs, and Berettas. None of them offered the simplicity, compactness, rock hard finish and utter reliability exhibited by my GLOCKs. My HK P7M8 will soon be sold when I get around to it.
Other manufacturers including SIG, HK, Smith and Wesson, and others continue to trip over themselves to bring a competitive product to the marketplace. They've tried to bring a competitive polymer frame, they've tried to bring GLOCK-like triggers (DAK, LEM), but they just can't be competitive with GLOCK.
I've owned and sold HKs, SIGs, and Berettas. None of them offered the simplicity, compactness, rock hard finish and utter reliability exhibited by my GLOCKs. My HK P7M8 will soon be sold when I get around to it.
VPJack said:
Evidently, life's too short to go to English class as well?
The frame stippling was done by myself after some liquid courage. I stippled my G17L and 5 other frames for fellow GLOCKers. I won't be doing any more for a while (very tedious). Thanks for the compliment.
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VPJack said:So sorry,but my poor grammer still does not make a glock a good looking firearm
jack
If you contributed to her financial well-being she might not have to spend her senior years working at a trade for which she is ill suited.
Of course reliability is job one there is no question about that. However there are quite a number of guns that I have found to be as reliable as a glock, that I would and do bet my and my family's lives on. All of these also feel and shoot better for me. I am not saying that the glock is not as reliable as a brick, it just looks like one too.
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