Silencers

[S4gunn]

Quick question:
If I buy a thread on silencer in .223, I know I can use it on more than one rifle.

Q: How less efficient would it be if I used that 223 can on a 22LR rifle? In other words, would a .223-sized silencer on a 22LR be 10%, 20%, or 50% louder than a 22LR can from the same manufacturer on a 22LR rifle?

Going even more oversized, would a 9mm can have any effect if used on a 22LR pistol?

Obviously, a silencer sized for 22LR would be better for that application but if I wanted to safe a few bucks....

-g

Nevermind, it was answered on AR15.com's Silencer FAQ:

Can I use a .223 suppressor on my 22LR ?
Yes, but this is not recommended by some knowledgeable people in the industry. The main reason is that 22LR causes a great deal of fouling in the internals of the can which requires a great deal of cleaning and can necessitate a can that is able to be taken apart by the end user. If the can cannot be taken apart then it is much more difficult to clean. But more importantly is what will happen when you switch over to .223. First, a solid can that is welded is more durable and better suited for heavy use of a .223 caliber weapon. The problem is going to arise however when the .223 heats up the can to much higher temps than the .22LR did. In the process this could knock some of the fouling build up that remains in the can from the 22LR which in turn could cause serious damage to the baffles as it’s blown out the barrel. This is almost like a plasma cutter effect. The baffles could already be superheated from extended or full auto fire making the internals "soft". The hot carbon that got knocked loose could now be blown out the can striking the baffles on the way out and chewing them up little by little. Over time by switching back and forth between heavy use this could really eat up the internals.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=20&t=222460

 

[piratelooking@40]

1858rem - seriously, you're admitting to felonies.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

I know a man who has a silencer and all the proper paperwork. It was the first NFA stamp I have looked at, but the stamp on his paperwork looks like something from the 1930s.

In the US in the 1890-1910 timeframe (and in Finland today) silencers were promoted to save the hearing of target shooters and hunters and to reduce noise pollution.

Of course some criminals use silencers, but pegging the silencer as a "gangster weapon" and adding a $200 registration tax did not stop criminal use (or save hearing of hunters or reduce noise pollution at shooting ranges).

Since most of the support for restricting silencers seemed to be informed by movies and dime novels, I would like to point out that in The Godfather a short barrelled very loud pistol was chosen for an assassination because the muzzle blast would startle and confuse witnesses. If a silencer had been used (click poot), the patrons would be looking at the table wondering what was going on, rather that ducking under their own table (BLAM!).

By the way, improvised silencers not registered before manufacture are illegal, including the pillow, the 2 liter soda bottle and the potato. Possession of these items may be deemed "constructive possession" of a silencer by BATF even if they are not assembled to a firearm as a silencer.

husbandofaromanian During a conversation your having about your silencer, someone looks at you with no smile on their face and calls you an assasin.
Those people probably have pillows, 2 liter soda bottles and/or potatoes in their compounds. And quite frankly few assassins use silencers and those that do, do not have tax stamps and don't mention it in social conversations.

Sorry about rambling, I am breaking for coffee.

 

[PTK]

Possession of these items may be deemed "constructive possession" of a silencer by BATF even if they are not assembled to a firearm as a silencer.

That's not what constructive possession means, but other than that your post is quite good and makes valid points.

 

[husbandofaromanian]

19 out of 20 of the people I speak to about my silencers (including a couple of ffl holders) did not know they are legal (in our state). When I show them to people they are surprised to see what a simple looking metal can it is since they've always thought it was something exotic.

Bottom line: This metal can will save your hearing if you shoot much.

 

[N003k]

Thanks to this post and some of the help given in it, I'm actually now looking into getting one for my Stag-15 Turns out on top of everything else, even though I can't have a threaded BARREL on my rifle, they make threaded MUZZLE BREAKS to bypass that little restriction that can be legally pinned on, but allow removal and attachment of the suppressor...

Basically, thanks to everyone that gave advice in this thread!