Single Action Lovers
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I think a lot of guys would actually go for retro cars with features like the originals had 40 or more years ago if it weren't for family considerations. Cars are such expensive investments that most guys don't let their personal preferences override family considerations. Even so, many spend big bucks and lots of time on restorations.
I like single actions for the same reasons I like fly rods, muzzle loaders, wooden baseball bats, etc. None of these things are necessities, and I own more efficient and modern evolutions of most, but a hobby doesn't need to be efficient. If I had to catch fish, shoot game, get base hits or else go hungry, I'd choose more efficient tools. It is a joy to be blessed enough to have basic needs covered for the moment and to be able to take time to enjoy some things just for the look and feel of them.
I like single actions for the same reasons I like fly rods, muzzle loaders, wooden baseball bats, etc. None of these things are necessities, and I own more efficient and modern evolutions of most, but a hobby doesn't need to be efficient. If I had to catch fish, shoot game, get base hits or else go hungry, I'd choose more efficient tools. It is a joy to be blessed enough to have basic needs covered for the moment and to be able to take time to enjoy some things just for the look and feel of them.
Publius1688
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I like SA revolvers, in 'old' cartridges like .45 Colt, for many of the same reasons that I like a Porsche in manual. Sure---the automatic is great; but I like the feel, the control, the heritage...
Claude Clay
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you want fast-google sammy davis quick draw.
and fun x 4 they are. though i no longer shoot CASS for score i am very taken by various side matches: quick draw, gunfighter and long rifleing.
and fun x 4 they are. though i no longer shoot CASS for score i am very taken by various side matches: quick draw, gunfighter and long rifleing.
I can't stand double actions. I just don't like the trigger pull. Funny thing is, I am a fan of both the Glock and the Single Action Army. they are simple, and they work. Same goes for the 1911. All three changed the world of handguns forever, for good reasons. Three in 138 years, that's not much.
The advantage of the revolver, in my opinion, is a larger caliber, heavy bullets. I used to have a Desert Eagle in .44 Mag. but it was so heavy.. A Blackhawk is much handier.
I'll probably end-up with four guns, A Single Action Army, A 1911, a Glock and a Blackhawk. And I can use the same cast bullets in all four! (.45ACP & .45 Colt)
And four rifles: An Uberti 1873 lever action, an AK47, a Savage in .308, and an air rifle or Ruger 10/22.
All eight are rather simple designs that have been in service forever.. No surprises, reliability and practicality.
The advantage of the revolver, in my opinion, is a larger caliber, heavy bullets. I used to have a Desert Eagle in .44 Mag. but it was so heavy.. A Blackhawk is much handier.
I'll probably end-up with four guns, A Single Action Army, A 1911, a Glock and a Blackhawk. And I can use the same cast bullets in all four! (.45ACP & .45 Colt)
And four rifles: An Uberti 1873 lever action, an AK47, a Savage in .308, and an air rifle or Ruger 10/22.
All eight are rather simple designs that have been in service forever.. No surprises, reliability and practicality.
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Red Cent
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"I just don't like the trigger pull".
You will find that some of us have some very tricked out SAs and that you could not distinguish them from the best Smith & Wesson fired in the single action mode. And, I'm sure, we have some untouched that have a "just as good" trigger.
What has caused you to dislike the "trigger pull"?
You will find that some of us have some very tricked out SAs and that you could not distinguish them from the best Smith & Wesson fired in the single action mode. And, I'm sure, we have some untouched that have a "just as good" trigger.
What has caused you to dislike the "trigger pull"?
Back before our family had a TV I was (occasionally) allowed to play with my father's 44-40 Bisley Model Colt (mfg. 1896 - and I was allowed to "play" with it because there was no ammunition in the house.) It was the first gun I ever handled, the first gun I ever took apart. I always got it back together with no parts left over. And I still have it.
I now own 3-screw Rugers in 357 and 22LR/22MAG as well as the old Colt, plus DA revolvers in 22, 38 and 45ACP. None of the centerfire DAs are as comfortable to shoot in the long run as the SAs.
And none are as tough. My (mental) test for tough comes from the summers I spent as a yute wrangling horses in CO - how well will the gun stand up to being stepped on by a horse? I don't care what kind of steel the thing is made out of, I just have to believe the 1/4" diameter base pins on my SA revolvers will survive a lot more abuse than any of the DA designs.
I will admit that the mainspring on the Bisley gave up a couple of years ago (only lasted ~110 years) and the hand spring failed last year (114 years) but those are annualized maintenance costs I can absorb.
If the S ever HTF, I'm pretty sure I'd strap on the 22 & 357 SAs before any of the DAs I own.
I now own 3-screw Rugers in 357 and 22LR/22MAG as well as the old Colt, plus DA revolvers in 22, 38 and 45ACP. None of the centerfire DAs are as comfortable to shoot in the long run as the SAs.
And none are as tough. My (mental) test for tough comes from the summers I spent as a yute wrangling horses in CO - how well will the gun stand up to being stepped on by a horse? I don't care what kind of steel the thing is made out of, I just have to believe the 1/4" diameter base pins on my SA revolvers will survive a lot more abuse than any of the DA designs.
I will admit that the mainspring on the Bisley gave up a couple of years ago (only lasted ~110 years) and the hand spring failed last year (114 years) but those are annualized maintenance costs I can absorb.
If the S ever HTF, I'm pretty sure I'd strap on the 22 & 357 SAs before any of the DAs I own.
RidgwayCO
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I own Ruger Bisley Blackhawk single-action revolvers in .44 Special and .45 Colt because they'll safely handle legal hunting loads that I'd hesitate to put in my S&W double-action revolvers. And they are handsome beasts...
Carl Levitian
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Because Gus and Woodrow would approve!
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J-Bar
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The single action mechanism has a very short cycle time.
Click on the link and scroll down to "Pistol 2-handed grip, Deuce Stevens"
...That's ten shots from two revolvers, including drawing and reholstering, all hitting the steel target, in 2.44 seconds.
Slow? Really?
http://www.jspublications.net/records/records.html
Click on the link and scroll down to "Pistol 2-handed grip, Deuce Stevens"
...That's ten shots from two revolvers, including drawing and reholstering, all hitting the steel target, in 2.44 seconds.
Slow? Really?
http://www.jspublications.net/records/records.html
Fun to shoot and heavy loads with the ole plowshare grip shape just rolls back in your hand. If a tool could look almost perfect I think my Blackhawks sure do. Great for hunting, never could get a fast DA with a Redhawk, just as fast with a SA. I sometimes carry one when out on the ATV but still keep a 45 semi in reach just in case. 22 Mag shotshells in my Single Six will flat out cut up a snake so it travels within reach during the summer.
oldfool
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"They are a design that should be obsolete."
not hardly, great design is never obsolete, the prime two examples of that being "1911s" and "modern" SA revolvers.. what works great, works great
most people who can shoot DA fast-n-accurate could shoot SA just as fast-n-accurate, IF they put the same round count into SA fast as they have into DA fast
(I don't, but some do)
as good as the big bore DAs are, they still take a back seat to the really good big bore SAs... and no matter how good the DAO or striker fired trigger is, it cannot hold a candle to a good SA trigger.. until everybody goes to phazers with electronic triggers, don't expect that to change
not hardly, great design is never obsolete, the prime two examples of that being "1911s" and "modern" SA revolvers.. what works great, works great
most people who can shoot DA fast-n-accurate could shoot SA just as fast-n-accurate, IF they put the same round count into SA fast as they have into DA fast
(I don't, but some do)
as good as the big bore DAs are, they still take a back seat to the really good big bore SAs... and no matter how good the DAO or striker fired trigger is, it cannot hold a candle to a good SA trigger.. until everybody goes to phazers with electronic triggers, don't expect that to change
Hi Red,
Why I don't like the trigger pull of DAs dates from way back, when I started shooting. I did try a couple revolvers, can't remember the make, at the range, and thought the pull was just too long.. Like creep on a single action. Maybe I haven't shot a good one yet. I have been interested in large caliber (45) revolvers forever, but only recently am I getting into the habit of shooting SAs. Even the Glock trigger, which sucks, is better than the DAs I tried back then.. I'm sure a good double action revolver can be tweaked to have a really good trigger.. I guess I haven't been around them enough to have tried one..
Why I don't like the trigger pull of DAs dates from way back, when I started shooting. I did try a couple revolvers, can't remember the make, at the range, and thought the pull was just too long.. Like creep on a single action. Maybe I haven't shot a good one yet. I have been interested in large caliber (45) revolvers forever, but only recently am I getting into the habit of shooting SAs. Even the Glock trigger, which sucks, is better than the DAs I tried back then.. I'm sure a good double action revolver can be tweaked to have a really good trigger.. I guess I haven't been around them enough to have tried one..
Because of the design of the frame and the way the cylinder is secured, the single-action revolver is potentially the most accurate revolver design....as pointed out by Freedom Arms.
The single-action revolver and lever-action rifle, even those manufacturered outside the country, shout USA just as surely as Old Glory does.
The single-action revolver and lever-action rifle, even those manufacturered outside the country, shout USA just as surely as Old Glory does.
'Cause it's not about the newest and fanciest, the fastest to load, unload, rapid firing, the most modern design, the hi-tech materials, the bling, the bang...Sometimes it's more about the simple, straight forward approach.
Why have a blt action or single shot when there's semi-autos? Why use steel when there's titanium? Why use old fashioned walnut when there's modern synthetics? Why use old cartridges when there's modern whiz-bang ones to choose from?
It's not about the latest and "greatest". It's about what works - period.
Why have a blt action or single shot when there's semi-autos? Why use steel when there's titanium? Why use old fashioned walnut when there's modern synthetics? Why use old cartridges when there's modern whiz-bang ones to choose from?
It's not about the latest and "greatest". It's about what works - period.
Oddly enough, serial Westerns did not stimulate an interest in SA sixguns, in my case, even though I grew up watching some of them. My love of the SA started in my late thirties, mostly due to a renewed interest in history, and a friend who made me aware of cowboy action shooting. I bought a USPFA Single Action in 1998 or 1999, and found that I really liked shooting it. (The company soon dropped "patent" from their title, now being USFA.)
The SA grip is really good for my less-than-large hands. N-frames are too large for me to shoot them well in DA mode, and if I have to shoot SA, anyway, I might as well use the slimmer SA sixgun. It is possible that the Ruger Bisley, with suitable custom grip panels, may end up being my favorite handgun configuration. Another contender for the title, if I am ever wealthy enough, is the Freedom Arms Model 97. It will require actual shooting to be sure.
I never got around to participating in cowboy action shooting, but might,
someday. I don't like to disclose publicly the number of firearms I own, to
avoid being targeted for burglary, but will admit to owning more than half a
dozen SA six-guns; USFA, Colt, and Ruger.
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The SA grip is really good for my less-than-large hands. N-frames are too large for me to shoot them well in DA mode, and if I have to shoot SA, anyway, I might as well use the slimmer SA sixgun. It is possible that the Ruger Bisley, with suitable custom grip panels, may end up being my favorite handgun configuration. Another contender for the title, if I am ever wealthy enough, is the Freedom Arms Model 97. It will require actual shooting to be sure.
I never got around to participating in cowboy action shooting, but might,
someday. I don't like to disclose publicly the number of firearms I own, to
avoid being targeted for burglary, but will admit to owning more than half a
dozen SA six-guns; USFA, Colt, and Ruger.
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Mas had an article about Single Action being superior to Auto and Double Action, when the user is on horse back.
PursesRHolsters
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Im a 30 yr. old female. I have a Ruger Vaquero 45. I love it for so many reasons.
For starters I love the simplicity of it. Its easy to load and unload.
Unlike my auto, you always know when its loaded.
I like not worrying if there is one in the chamber when handling it.
I also like the mechanics of it. I really enjoying feeling like I am part of the gun.
There is something about going thru the steps every time, and not just loading a magazine and aimlessly firing. For me shooting is more than just hitting a target or not, its the whole experience.
I also love how I can put some really Hot reloads thru it without worrying that ill blow the top of my auto off.
For starters I love the simplicity of it. Its easy to load and unload.
Unlike my auto, you always know when its loaded.
I like not worrying if there is one in the chamber when handling it.
I also like the mechanics of it. I really enjoying feeling like I am part of the gun.
There is something about going thru the steps every time, and not just loading a magazine and aimlessly firing. For me shooting is more than just hitting a target or not, its the whole experience.
I also love how I can put some really Hot reloads thru it without worrying that ill blow the top of my auto off.
Hagen442
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