JFrank
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A list of die manufactures that actually MAKE and LIST a small base with internal dimensions would be helpful, anything less is just conjecture and banter.
A list of die manufactures that actually MAKE and LIST a small base with internal dimensions would be helpful, anything less is just conjecture and banter.
I just took a few thousands off the face of the die, so I could lower it further and make my problem go away.
So far I’ve yet to see anyone post a small base die they have purchased.Possibly an ignorant question, but could one mill off the face of the shellholder to achieve a similar effect. Or would doing that disrupt the integrity of the shellholder...?
Does a small base die also reach the shoulder of the case ?
I have NO experience with those types of dies.....
The taper is so slight that I really don’t think you could take enough off to change the body reduction.Being tapered as well as adjustable for height, one would almost need to size something dead soft with all of them and measure results.
I have had dies that couldn’t adequately size a case for a rifle, instead of ordering a “undersize” die for it (they don’t exist) I just took a few thousands off the face of the die, so I could lower it further and make my problem go away.
FWIW this is also shell holder specific because it’s the part that is the “stop” for the die, where there is no more adjustment.
I see......so my brand new Remington AR-10 wouldn't chamber because of a "rim fragment" from brand new factory Federals. Yet it fired a whole box of Remington factory as fast as I could pull the trigger. Glad you figured that out.........and RCBS and Dillon and Redding are stupid for even thinking about making small base rifles dies for AR's. They shoulda come to you, to show them why SB dies are unnecessay trash.
I concede to your experience with the old technology, as I've never bought or shot an A-1, A-1A, F-14 or anything like them .....well except for a mini-14.
But I do have one question. When army's come together like for example, Russia and Ukraine, (or anything resembling war) when do they have time to stop and measure each rifle to make dependable ammo for them? They don't. They use only dependable factory.....with small bases that chamber easily in every last one of them, unless they have been run over by a tank.
It's my opinion that such dependability is more important than getting 5 more reloads out of a piece of brass by insisting in "minimal brass movement."
If you want a stash of ammo for defense.....that's dependable in ANY rifle in a caliber......either use new factory or small base reloads.....the next best thing. Why are they the next best thing? Because they mimic the easy chambering of factory with bases which are closest to factory diameter.
You are not the only one who's reloaded for 50 + years....I have all my fingers and toes too.
Does anyone remember F.Guffy ? A very smart guy that made me think and learn to measure and transfer numbers.
The one thing I admired about him was that he would not just give away the answers.
Counting toes here.... (`got to 7 before trying to remember breakfast)
That said, an SB die is useful/called-for when first resizing pick-up and/or military brass -- especially if the OP is using it in any type of Garand-based action.
Once SB-resized, though, normal dies 'should' suffice thereafter if fire in the same chamber.
Yes, the fellow with a drawer full of datum’s. Not really the heart of a teacher but a head containing knowledge, just the same.
Perfect ‘ if someone has a question regarding internal dimensions of that die you have the answer.
Thank you
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I didn't buy it but I have one.
So in a nut shell, I only have one point.....make ammo for these military calibers that will work in every weapon not just yours....
You're not the only one, GW Staar. I demand complete functionability across the board with my .223 reloads. I load for 4 different AR's, and two bolts.
Me too. A friend gave me this set a few years ago.
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Makes me wonder what part numbers 11104-11106 are though, seeing your set is p/n: 11107
Does anyone remember F.Guffy ?
Ya’ll could size a couple of fired cases then compare notes.
@Walkalong
Was Guffey banned from this forum or is he still a member ?
You may have a point and always the possibility of a case resisting and springing back but we do a couple or three, I believe that we’ll be close enough for discussion purposes .It would be better to use something dead soft so differences in cases, (individual “spring back”) wouldn’t make our measurements less meaningful.