So you're a sixties superspy...

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Okay, so I've been playing No One Lives Forever 2. It's a hillarious, yet challenging first person shooter, a spoof of James Bond style 60s spy flicks. Includes staples like foppish supervillains, badguys in ill-fitting pastel jumpsuits, mimes (okay, not a staple, but you do fight French mimes), and needlessly complicated death traps.

Anyhoo, I got to thinking. James Bond, in the older movies, carried a Walther PPK in 7.65mm (.32ACP). This pistol was typical of what was popular in Europe throughout the post-War period; namely, pop-guns. Many uniformed police carried .32ACP and .380ACP pistols up until recently (when most of them finally discovered the pre-Great War 9x19mm round, and started carrying submachine guns).

So, let's say it's the early 1960s and you're some sort of Secret Agent type person (CIA, MI6, whatever you prefer). It's your job to trot the globe and help fight off the agents of the Red Menace, not to mention the henchmen of the occasional self-absorbed supervillain.

Would you do it Euro-style and pack a compact autoloading mousegun? Would you carry a snubby .38 like on Get Smart? Would you opt for firepower over ease of concealment and carry a Hi-Power or Government Model?

You'd probably want more than one gun, for different missions. At least one autoloader with a threaded barrel (that can be suppressed) would be a good idea.

I'm not too familliar with what all types of pistols were on the market in the early to mid 1960s, myself. What would be out there for a big-bore revolver lover?
 
I'd carry either a Colt Lightweight Commander in .45 in a belt holster or a S&W 1955 Target revolver in a shoulder holster. Those half-moon clips were the fastest revolver reload going back then.

Remember there were no hollow points available in the early to mid 1960s.
If you were using factory ammo, except for some semi-wadcutters in .357 and .38, and some soft points available in .32-20, .38/40 & .44/40 almost everything else was round nose. Lead for revolvers and Full Metal Case for semi-automatics.
 
I didn't answer my own question.

For deep concealment, I'd probably go with a shrouded-hammer .38 Snubbie, like the Colt Agent. For a standard sidearm, I'd probably have both a Colt Gov't model (with suppressor) and a 4" (Custom if I had to get it custom done) big-bore S&W. Maybe a Model 29 in .44 Magnum, maybe a .45ACP target shortened to 4".

I might be happy with a Model 28 4" .357, too. I've fired one, and I liked it. (Fired it...hell, I bought it, as a wedding present for my friend; gave it to her some months before she actually got married, though. :D )

Car gun would be an M1A1 Thompson. :evil:

Question: when did FULL moon clips come onto the scene? I know half-moons have been around since the Great War...
 
I'll play....

For a main sidearm, either a Government Model in 45 ACP or a .357 Magnum (later Model 27) Smith & Wesson in 3.5" barrel.

For those moments of discretion, a Ruger Mark I Target Model with supressor.

For long guns, a Thompson for panic use. A pre-'64 Model 70 Winchester in .30-06 with a decent scope for precision work.
 
The answer is obvious to all who grew up in those hectic days of chasing terrorist T.H.R.U.S.H. agents all over the TV world. I mean, really...
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Just yer basic cut-down-modified-by-prop-master-Walther P38 w/ hi cap magazine, scope, silencer, interchangeable everything 9MM. Something about that heel mag release and extended mag tho' that kinda bothers me.
 
Since I'd spend most of my time with the ladies or my gadgets, plus in most spy stories stopping power happens with every caliber possible...I would go with a Hi Standard Suppressed Supermatic. :cool:
 
For deep concealment, I'd probably go with something like a Baby Browning or Beretta Jetfire in .25 ACP.

My main gun would probably be a Browning Hi Power... Perhaps a Colt 1911 on occasion.

I like the idea of having a Thompson.

Wes
 
I worked in counterintellegence in the sixties in Germany. Everyday carry was a colt agent. A 1911 slicked up by an army marksmanship unit when things might get interesting. Never had occasion to use a long gun, but practiced with the M3, M14, and later with the M16.

We gave the bad guys over to the germans for prosecution if we couldn't turn them, so we never met resistance. German criminal justice since WWII is a joke and it's easier to do a year or two than try to resist.
 
spook, Welcome to THR.

Lesse - 1911, Lt Wt commander ,model 36 and Beretta Jetfire.

I think my problem would be the Orange Chevelle with black top, SS 396, headers, Hurst shifter...

Hey I drove a Chrysler Imperial an Uncle had once...nice ride...but a "Agent" has got to have cool wheels...got to get the girls ya know? :D
 
I'm still waiing for someone to say GLOCK 36! My choice would be simple. A S&W breaktop New Departure in 38 S&W. A Colt Vest Pocket in 25 ACP. A AK for a long arm. The BAR Whippet style might be a good choice too.
 
While Colt's Commander .45 would be my top choice, it pretty much screams 'I'm an American!'

And yes, you can mount a supressor on one, but you have to manually cock the slide each time. So a supressed High standard or Colt Woodsman .22 would seem to be the ideal "hush puppy".

A quality BHP would be nice to keep handy... for those forays into Europe. Same size as a 1911, holds nearly twice as many bullets. You could add a slick wood stock for that "Man From Uncle" Look.

You should have a Makarov or Tokarev available to you as well, and know how to use them. You won't find much .38 special behind the iron curtain.

Speaking of .38's I'd pick a Cobra or Agent, since the d-frame Colts hold six instead of five.

If I had to have a long arm... (and just because GI Joe had one in Black Widow Rendezvous) a suppressed M-3 grease gun would be pretty cool along side your watch cap and rubber raft.

Now for really nasty encounters.. to heck with that early sixties m-16 pop-gun. order me up a Belgian made FAL.

For the discreetly armed a baby Browning.

That cover it all?

Oh wait I forgot the spear gun, the Ford F40, and the leather cat-suit wearing kung-fu master Girl Friday.
 
Since I've got Q or some equivalent to make me custom guns, I'd have a cut-down BHP (4" barrel, shortened grip & custom shorty mags), a S&W J-frame snubby firing various custom "special purpose" bullets, and a '59 Colt National Match as a backup for my Sterling L2A3 submachine gun for the big all-out gun battle at the end of the movie. :cool:
 
Behind the Iron Curtain: Makarov in a shoulder holster, w/ a .38 snubbie as backup in deep concealment.

Europe: 1911 Commander. Same backup.

Panic gun: AK behind the curtain, Thompson and a BAR in Europe.

Car: DB5 is really cool. I second sm's car too. Dunno what I would use behind the curtain.

Girl: Emma Peel or Agent 99. Ah hell, I cant choose. Both!!! YEAH BABY!!! :D:D:D
 
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