Something interesting happened at the gun show today...

[Nomad101bc]

Well it would not be very hard for even the most incompetant anti to slip one in a pump action shot gun since 12 gauge is so common and will fire just about anything you put in it. Same with .45 1911 these are also extremely common but i doubt they would be able to load some of the more exotic calibers such as a .44 magnum.

 

[garymc]

If you open the action to examine the chamber(s), throat, firing pin, extractor, ejector, etc., what makes the other guy think you're checking to see if he stupidly left it loaded?

 

[WeedWhacker]

At the the two shows I regularly attend in Indiana, every gun, long-gun or handgun is zip tied, customer ccw's included.

Because gun-free zones are great!

They'd never know I'd had one to zip-tie.

 

[rangerruck]

a dude blew his finger off, at a houston gunshow about 1 month ago.

 

[Black Adder LXX]

Around here, all guns at the gunshows are disabled with a ziptie as soon as they are brought through the door.

Same here in S Fla. Good thing too with all the 'ignant gang-bangers' around here.

 

[Kevin108]

now that sounds a little far fetched...

I lost a hard drive a few months back and along with it several years worth of bookmarks, but I am almost positive I read an article just last year about a woman who was caught and arrested for attempting to load weapons at a gun show.

 

[Leanwolf]

BITTER BEER FACE - "Leanwolf: Do you ask people to leave for something like what I encountered? A loaded weapon that wasn't carelessly discharged?"

BBF, unless a Security Guard were the one examining the firearm and found the loaded cartridges in the cylinder, no one would ask the dealer/vendor to leave. Afterall, who would know other than the dealer/vendor, and the person who saw the cartridges in the firearm??

As for the Boise Gun Shows (six per year), since the Careless Discharge of three years ago, all firearms have to be zip tied. If a potential buyer wants to "seriously" check the bore, action, etc., etc., the dealer or private party cuts the zip tie. If the person doesn't want to buy it, the dealer or private party puts a new zip tie on it and it goes back on the table.

The person of whom I wrote in the first episode, was pulling handguns out of a large bag when he pulled out the foreign semi-auto .45 ACP. We were never sure what happened but think that it was cocked and he had his finger on the trigger when he pulled it out of the bag. (???) He obviously had not bothered to check it before putting it in the bag with his other handguns and leaving home.

Security Guards walk the gun show observing the tables and if there is a firearm on a table without a zip tie, they demand one be placed on the firearm. Any "private party" walking the aisles with guns he hopes to sell, has to attach zip ties when he comes in the front door.

That's the way it works here.

L.W.

 

[Nomad101bc]

Imagine if they did that at used car dealerships. Sorry you cant go inside the car the tires have also been zip tied for your safety otherwise you could potentially hurt yourself with it...Its a great car i assure you you will like it but you cant look inside you might accidently put the keys in the ignition and drive...

 

[Geno]

Every firearm I pick-up, I check the chamber. Good for you doing the same! As my Grandfather used to say, "It's the empty gun that kills!" You just held the example of which he spoke!

 

[rdaines]

Sorry dude but zip ties are OK with me, I don't want to be shot in the back by some guy checking out a gun. Dry firing a gun should be done with the owner's/seller's permission, I'd think they'd be glad to check it's loaded/unloaded status before handing over the gun.

 

[DMK]

If a potential buyer wants to "seriously" check the bore, action, etc., etc., the dealer or private party cuts the zip tie. If the person doesn't want to buy it, the dealer or private party puts a new zip tie on it and it goes back on the table.

That's the way they do it here too. It's no big deal.

"It has gotten to where some of the vendors will pick up the pistol (rifle, shotgun), check the chamber, THEN hand someone the firearm for that 'closer look'. The firearm is then handed back to the seller, who then verifies the status of the chamber, prior to placing the firearm back on the table. May be extreme, but it works."

Extreme? I thought that was the basic procedure for any firearm. That's what I've always practiced and taught. It's a breech of safety rules and etiquette not to do it that way.

ALWAYS check the chamber of EVERY gun before it leaves your hands and as it enters your hands.

That can't be reinforced enough. If this simple procedure was always followed, there would never be a CD. Kinda like how we were taught to always hand someone a knife with the handle first when we were kids

 

[Hoppy590]

That can't be reinforced enough

rules/laws should not be made based on ENFORCEMENT. they should be based on the rights of free men. and restricting the good people for the actions of the bad is not good form to me.