Spikes Tactical Pros/Cons?

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On the certificates of them making milspec parts , is it done just one time to pass /showing they have it and get the customer satisfaction ? Or they have to do it every new batch of parts made ? Or annually ?

It all boils down to how honest they are and that applies to all other branded AR names.
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They should be getting them every time since each barrel is supposed to be certified. However they only provided copies to the public that one time. I seriously doubt that he would have gone to the trouble for just the one time however.

Others have raised the questions you have and as far as I know Spikes has never addressed them. But as you said, it is a matter of trust.
 
Mil spec and mil contracts mean nothing. See my post, #7. Are government does not take care of thier own anymore. That doesnt just go for rifles either :(
 
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You are paying for the name with colt, it will hold collector value, thats its upper hand over spikes. Spikes is just as much quality it just comes from a relatively small manufacturer so there is no paying for a brand name. Excellent specs
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Untrue... You are paying for the name, but with the name you get quality. If you were only paying for the roll stamp that would be something different all together. Colt is a top tier manufacturer. Spikes is also excellent, and probably represents one of the best buys out there for an already assembled upper, along with BCM. Nothing wrong with Spikes, but don't spread internet rumor about paying for a name. In most cases the names are built on a reputation of quality.
 
AR27 said:
In my opinion military contracts mean nothing. Sorry to say but Ol' Uncle Sam isnt giving his troops the best weapons or gear available, not by a long shot. They are looking to just barely meet the standard they are forced to meet for the cheapest price. They had a "contest" (for lack of a better word) a while back were the M16 platform was put up against a line of other rifles in a series of torture tests. Guess which performed the worst? M16 platform. Guess who got the contract? M16 platform. The better rifles were to much money for the government. Its all about the money just like everything else in the world. Mil-spec doesnt mean its the best, Noveske isnt mil-spec, they exceed far past mil-spec AR-15s.

By the way, isnt FN getting most of the M16 contracts over Colt?
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I'm gonna need to request a link to back up those assertions.
 
About the competition between the M4 and the competing rifles.

It is true that the M4 performed the worst. However there are a number of factors that are being ignored about it.

  • They compared very well used M4s against new hand selected examples of the competing rifles
  • The failure rate on all the rifles was very low
  • The failure rate of the M4 was very close to all the others.
  • The conditions of the test were far outside anything that could be expected in reality.

They had to weigh all this data against the cost of replacing every M4 and M16 in the arsenal. This isn't even including the cost of retraining everyone on a new manual of arms, train new armorer, etc.

And don't forget with a new platform comes new problems. For instance, my personal favorite alternative is the SCAR. It is a great gun. But is very hard on optics due to the recoil impulse.
 
I was in the same boat as the OP last week and had research overload. This included trying decide to build or buy, researching the threads on AR15.com as well as the combined thread mentioned earlier on providing certs.

I finally decided to just order the middy last Sunday figuring it will be a good learning firearm.
 
Nothing wrong with Spikes, but don't spread internet rumor about paying for a name. In most cases the names are built on a reputation of quality.
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I wasnt implying that colt wasnt a quality firearm i only meant that the name comes at a cost above the quality (which happens often in a lot of markets)

take cars for example the cadilac uses alot of the same parts as any other chevrolet product so quality is the same.. sometimes even the same builders will work on both companies designs and final products but yet the cadillac is priced about 15-30% higher because of the name

my fear of buying the colt is that i end up with a price increase because of the roll mark on the side not because the "extra" quality costs more

believe me if i could afford the 6920 this wouldnt be an issue lol
 
I got a Spikes Middy in January and love it. There are always at the gunshows here in S. Fla. and have a couple for sale. I was 90% certain I wanted one, and what pushed me over to 10% was their warranty. As far as I know, they are the only manufacturer that does not void the warranty for shooting steel cased ammo. Internet ninja's can tell me how "serious operators" only trust their lives to brand X rifles, however, if I company does not believe in their product enough to warrant it with cheap ammo - I'll take my business to a company that will.
 
Kwelz, the USMC has been issuing A3's and A4's, with the majority of the newer A4's coming from FN, to Marines going to Afghanistan. Several of my friends are over there now, and at least that one unit has been issuing A4's to everyone except vehicle crews. The longer ranges in Afghanistan lend themselves better to the longer barreled M16A4 than the M4A1s.
 
I love my Colts. I think my RRAs are a much better value for the $, but I love my Colts. Now, a buddy of mine has two Spikes AR15s. The seem to work great and they seem to be a better $ value than the RRAs and the stock trigger is slightly better than the RRAs (based on my sampling of a whole 2 Spikes and about 8 RRAs). I still have had better luck with the Colt triggers, but that is probably a non-issue for many folks.

I wish Spikes had a slightly expanded line of uppers. They will, and I will undoubtedly be buying one.
 
HGUNHNTR said:
Untrue... You are paying for the name, but with the name you get quality. If you were only paying for the roll stamp that would be something different all together. Colt is a top tier manufacturer. Spikes is also excellent, and probably represents one of the best buys out there for an already assembled upper, along with BCM. Nothing wrong with Spikes, but don't spread internet rumor about paying for a name. In most cases the names are built on a reputation of quality.
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If the two rifles are the same quality whats the difference? O wait I know the answer to this! The NAME on the side of the rifle. This doesnt just go for spikes, it goes for any of the rifles that are the same or better quality than the colt but have a lower price because its not the colt NAME

No one here is trying to say Colt is low quality, that would be COMPLETY false, if they were trying to suggest that.
 
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M16s sure. But we don't really use the M16 much anymore. We use the M4. And currently Colt is the sole manufacturer.
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Tell that to all most all of the USMC including infantry, and all the pogues who carry them in the other services with irons.

Colt is not the sole manufacturer, FN makes almost all M16A4s
 
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About the competition between the M4 and the competing rifles.

It is true that the M4 performed the worst. However there are a number of factors that are being ignored about it.

  • They compared very well used M4s against new hand selected examples of the competing rifles
  • The failure rate on all the rifles was very low
  • The failure rate of the M4 was very close to all the others.
  • The conditions of the test were far outside anything that could be expected in reality.

They had to weigh all this data against the cost of replacing every M4 and M16 in the arsenal. This isn't even including the cost of retraining everyone on a new manual of arms, train new armorer, etc.

And don't forget with a new platform comes new problems. For instance, my personal favorite alternative is the SCAR. It is a great gun. But is very hard on optics due to the recoil impulse.
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The fact of the matter is that the M4 performed the worst. No matter how you try and justify it.
 
Psssssssssssssssst, this is Spikes thread,


Btw, I got my SPIKES midlength upper a few weeks ago and am very happy with it. :D
 
Actually,
when you buy a Colt, you're buying weapon built by the TDP.
Spikes isnt. period.
Run away from anyone who says they are equal.
 
yeah ditto TDP?!?!?!

also its well known that the M16 is still in wide use with our armed forces and that the M4 variation is used alot more by special forces groups than standard grunts

the M4 is manufactured by colt and uppers for conversion now that the .mil is allowing that but the M16 family is produced by MANY companies for the military with the highest production being done by FN

FN provides alot of small arms for our military including M2s SAWs and even larger weapons like the vulcan cannon
and yes the M16 is in fact in use in the A4 configuration by The Marines with the Army following suit
 
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