rbernie
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Which would you choose, and why?
Spring planting
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doc2rn
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If I had to plant one I would go with a Marlin .22 lr. They are relatively inexpensive and outstanding shooters. If I had to choose one that would be mine because I have bought three over the years expecting one to quit which has never happened. One from a guy who lives close by who's wife doesnt want it in the house. The last was to learn how to rebuild it in shop, got it from a pawn shop for $25. I would have no problem planting the $25 rifle. 6" PVC pipe, a couple of bulk packs, and enough cozmo to kill an elephant no Problem.
Winchester 73
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The Rem 870 for the same reason as Walkalong.
cslinger
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Beat up 870 Police because you can plant one for cheap and over time grow it into a fun, 20 pound, ubertacticoool, gun or get some old school wood and go that direction. Either way you get a fun project.
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rbernie
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But planting 'em is still cheaper than buying a safe.
Feud
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Cheaper? Perhaps, but planting them is much, much more inconvenient.
GearHead_1
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Of course this would all depend on how your soil was prepared in the fall and the type of fertilizer you put it to bed with. Guns in the ground prove too often to be unreliable when unearthed. No matter how well you prep the container it's a crap shoot when you bring it up, maybe it will be in usable condition and maybe not. I for one would hate to bet the farm on it. I had a neighbor that was in trouble with the IRS, he asked me to store some firearms for him for a while. I had to decline, I didn't know what the ramifications could be. He tried this with a sealed, well prepped PVC tube, grease, seals and silicone. He put it down in fairly sandy soil under a covered deck. I would have thought his solution would have been almost ideal. Two years later he pulled up a rusty relic. Doing this in a bed of gravel may have been a better situation. He didn't end up losing guns to the IRS but lost one to mother nature. This is only one failed example but I've read of others.
Guns in the ground prove too often to be unreliable when unearthed. No matter how well you prep the container it's a crap shoot when you bring it up, maybe it will be in usable condition and maybe not. I for one would hate to bet the farm on it. I had a neighbor that was in trouble with the IRS, he asked me to store some firearms for him for a while. I had to decline, I didn't know what the ramifications could be. He tried this with a sealed, well prepped PVC tube, grease, seals and silicone. He put it down in fairly sandy soil under a covered deck. I would have thought his solution would have been almost ideal. Two years later he pulled up a rusty relic. Doing this in a bed of gravel may have been a better situation. He didn't end up losing guns to the IRS but lost one to mother nature. This is only one failed example but I've read of others.El Tejon
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I went with CKCs, a surplus pistol, ammo and some money.
I'd bury what I will not miss first. Get a few single shot shotguns at the pawn shop for $50, grease them up, pack them and down into the good earth they go.
I'd bury what I will not miss first. Get a few single shot shotguns at the pawn shop for $50, grease them up, pack them and down into the good earth they go.
Ok, I see this all the time, and I agree with the philosophy to an extent, but the actual practicality of the statement doesnt make sense.
There is no danger of a confiscation beginning this year. So why would someone worry about burying guns to keep them from being taken? Also, he is not burying his prized possessions, he is burying an extra firearm. Do you really not follow the point? It is not because he wants to sit back in his den knowing that he still "owns" a firearm buried in the woods, it is in case you are somehow deprived of the ability to use what you normally keep handy. I can think of dozens of scenarios (some more realistic than others) where this might be handy. If you cant, I'll type some up and post them.
BTW, this post is not directed at the poster who I quoted it, it is directed at the general group who says this with such righteous indignation every time this thread is brought up. That mindset is VERY limited, short-sighted, and ultimately irrational.
If I am caught on the toilet when "they" bust in, handcuffed, and then get out of jail after they have taken every means of resistance I own, I would VERY much like to have such a cache hidden away to help me begin to acquire something better.
Spyvie
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I voted in favor of cheese, but only because I already have a Mossy 500 and a Savage .22, and because I don't really know what a Mosin-Nagant is...
EDIT: If we're talking about hiding guns, then I think there are much better places than underground.
EDIT: If we're talking about hiding guns, then I think there are much better places than underground.
bluestarlizzard
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i think the point is to grow new ones. *chuckle* spring silliness has obviously caught hold of someone.
personally, i also like cheese.
Kentucky wrote:
Kentucky,
While I concede your well-made points, I have to make an observation.
The only information we have is rbernie’s statement of:
While I was making the assumption that the only reason I could see in burying a firearm is to have one secured, concealed, and accessible when one is otherwise inaccessible—for whatever the reason—in actuality, I have absolutely no idea what is going on in his mind.
When you write:
And
You seem to show an insight into rbernie’s mind that I am not altogether certain many of us would be comfortable with having.
I know some would say as much about my mind. I’ve said once or twice…
All the best...
-- John
Kentucky,
While I concede your well-made points, I have to make an observation.
The only information we have is rbernie’s statement of:
While I was making the assumption that the only reason I could see in burying a firearm is to have one secured, concealed, and accessible when one is otherwise inaccessible—for whatever the reason—in actuality, I have absolutely no idea what is going on in his mind.
When you write:
And
You seem to show an insight into rbernie’s mind that I am not altogether certain many of us would be comfortable with having.
I know some would say as much about my mind. I’ve said once or twice…
All the best...
-- John
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Marlin/Savage 22LR boltie
-Proven reliable and accurate platform that shoots affordable ammunition.
-Introduce new shooters, quality practice for a center-fire bolt gun, with less felt recoil and allowing for correct basics to be learned, and skill sets improved.
-Fun Factor.
-Proven reliable and accurate platform that shoots affordable ammunition.
-Introduce new shooters, quality practice for a center-fire bolt gun, with less felt recoil and allowing for correct basics to be learned, and skill sets improved.
-Fun Factor.
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rbernie
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Well spoken, thanks.
I often feel the same way. I've actually driven more than a few of the voices to leave me be, just by bein' me. Scared 'em away, guess - only the really strong ones survive.
Right now, I'm leaning towards a tube-fed 22LR boltie and a Winchester 1300 to keep it company. I do like El T's idea of including a more concealable arm in the cache. Maybe I shoulda made the poll to allow for multiple choices.
And that is what we are scared of, my friend!
True story... we used to have a manager that would have weekly "One-On-One's" with the new brokers in my first year. It would always go...
THIS was the question where you would hang yourself. Whatever you would answer would go in your file in the most negative way possible. And then top off your 65-hour work-week a few additional hours of training loosely based upon that thing you "struggled" with.
After getting wise to this (and a lot of BS work), I got safely above our quotas to move out of the first year. My answers to that question became...
Possible answers:
Satan
Predestination
Unitarianism
Small woodland creatures
Angry one-legged strippers
Halitosis
Genital Warts (make sure you try to shake his hand after the meeting)
and of course...
The Voices in my head.
Sorry... it's OT... but I had to share.
-- John
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jrfoxx
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I picked Mosin, as they are cheap, reliable, there was like a gazilion made, ammo is cheap, plentiful, and plenty powerful fan any need.The m44 is also short and handy, and the bayonet isnt a horrible feature to have in a SHTF scenario.....you just never know.Also, worst case, the Mosin would make a great club, and not hurt the gun in ANY way.Cant say that for the others with as much confidence.
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rbernie
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My favorite.
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