Springfield Armory XD "Made in Croatia"?
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bleachcola
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I do find that aspect pretty regarding SA.
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Rmart30
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thats not a uncommon practice in all types of bussiness. CVS or rite aid boast of 50 yrs in bussiness or something of that sort, they support that claim only because one of the smaller independant stores they bought out and put their name on had been open that long. Its not right, but thats what they do.
Beagle-zebub
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Hey hey, it was DESIGNED in Croatia, too. Production was not outsourced to there.
Don't hate on Croatia, either--there's at least one Croatian on here.
Besides, it's a take-off of the Glock that is oh-so clearly redesigned to appeal to the more discerning taste of American shooters. You've gotta love when a company caters to its customers' tastes in such a manner, especially when it's at the expense of another firm that failed to do so.
Don't hate on Croatia, either--there's at least one Croatian on here.
Besides, it's a take-off of the Glock that is oh-so clearly redesigned to appeal to the more discerning taste of American shooters. You've gotta love when a company caters to its customers' tastes in such a manner, especially when it's at the expense of another firm that failed to do so.
Mebbe I'm drinking from the XD Kool-Aid...
but when doing research before buying mine reports said the grip angle had been changed (Springfield specifying 1911 angle) and of course, some other features were added. Grip angle was a biggie for me since the first few Glocks I tried never fit my hand.
Now whether the grip angle story is true, I can't say since shops in our area have no HS2000s you can lay hands on.
Didn't matter anyway, since after reading tests results of the XD (shooting and torture), liking some of the features added, and thinking the XD is a much better looking gun than the HS2000 (not that it matters much, but given a choice who’s not going to take the better looking one?), I bought one-may buy another down the road.
Yeah, I knew 'bout it's history etc before buying, but it appears to me to be more than a “rebadged HS2000”!
but when doing research before buying mine reports said the grip angle had been changed (Springfield specifying 1911 angle) and of course, some other features were added. Grip angle was a biggie for me since the first few Glocks I tried never fit my hand.
Now whether the grip angle story is true, I can't say since shops in our area have no HS2000s you can lay hands on.
Didn't matter anyway, since after reading tests results of the XD (shooting and torture), liking some of the features added, and thinking the XD is a much better looking gun than the HS2000 (not that it matters much, but given a choice who’s not going to take the better looking one?), I bought one-may buy another down the road.
Yeah, I knew 'bout it's history etc before buying, but it appears to me to be more than a “rebadged HS2000”!
bleachcola
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I love my XD-40sc and use it for my CCW piece. I could care less about anything other than reliability, ergonomics, and accuracy of the piece. I just think it's an added bonus that it looks cooler than most plastic pieces. I'd buy the thing even if it were made in a Vietnamese sweat shop. It's a damn fine pistol.
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There was a guy at the last gun show I went too, started messing me with me in a joking way, because I was wearing an XD cap and t-shirt. He says he's a 1911 guy and prefer's American made guns. So I'm thinking to myself, "yeah, all the top shelf guns are made in Europe, HK, Sig, XD, Baretta, Walther, and Glock". Lol at this guy, nothing wrong with American made guns per-se, but I don't think a S&W M&P will run with a Sig or HK.
As far as the XD goes, I could care less that its made in Croatia, its a damn fine pistol, that's all that matters to me.
So I'm thinking to myself, "yeah, all the top shelf guns are made in Europe, HK, Sig, XD, Baretta, Walther, and Glock". Lol at this guy, nothing wrong with American made guns per-se, but I don't think a S&W M&P will run with a Sig or HK.As far as the XD goes, I could care less that its made in Croatia, its a damn fine pistol, that's all that matters to me.
Drgong
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Was actually thinking, I don't have ONE american made gun... A hungarian, a Russian, a Czech, and lastly one made in Belgium.
Perhaps I will buy a american one next, of course, I just find what is best for me.
Perhaps I will buy a american one next, of course, I just find what is best for me.
other than their custom shop, does Springfield "make" any guns? i know Browning never has.
Detritus
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they've done a few runs of US made guns, that read to me as "wow we have a large surplus of model specific parts for the [Model X], how about we build a run of them to reduce that surplus, give them NM-prefixed serial numbers and 'Made in USA' roll marks"
last example i saw of this was some WW2-GIs that showed up in two local shops marked "Made in USA", NM-serial#s, an older style of hammer with shiny side flats, and stainless bushings. these were running about $100-150 more than a Imbel marked GI.
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Guns are not fighter jets. Any country that can afford a factory with WW2 or newer technology should be able to turn out some decent small arms.
Prince Yamato
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There is some texture added to the grip and a light rail. That's it. It's the same basic design, originally meant to use Beretta 92 mags- they didn't change the grip angle.
mr.trooper
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Had a Pontiac...It was made in Canada.
Had a Ford... It was make in Mexico.
My Saturn is made in Tennessee though.
Detritus
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OT but..
If you stay with Saturn and are doing so for the "made in the US" aspect, don't buy an Astra. they're made somewhere in Europe by Opel.
In fact my most recent experience, and the revalation by my dealer (after we'd signed the papers) that ALL of the current saturn lineup, and by extension the other GM products that are "rebadges" of the same basic cars, are Opel designs built in US factories (with exception of the above noted Astra), have lead my wife and I to decide that the VUE we just bought will be our last new saturn.
this is not b/c it's not a US design, etc all that BS, but directly b/c i would not have and never will KNOWINGLY buy anything designed by Opel!!
Bottom line is that, from what I've heard, the XD is a good gun. I've shot a couple belonging to other people and was favorably impressed. I have one of the small ones that I've never shot -- won it in a raffle a few years back. It seems ot be nicely put together and has a good trigger for a striker fired pistol. So I probably ought to try it out.
So if someone wants that kind of pistol, it seems to me that the XD is worth a look no matter where it's made or who designed it. (Still prefer the 1911 myself, however.)
So if someone wants that kind of pistol, it seems to me that the XD is worth a look no matter where it's made or who designed it. (Still prefer the 1911 myself, however.)
now go find someone to fight .. Its my naptime.I was just about to beg to differ. Looks like flynlr beat me to it.
I'd put my M&P up against any Sig, HK, Glock, XD, Beretta, or anything short of true custom guns. For me it shoots more accurately, with less recoil, and has had not one stoppage yet (about 700 rounds).
I know in more capable hands, it can probably do better than in mine.
But this is OT, so I'll leave it at that.
GTSteve03
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The "Made in Croatia" thing doesn't bother me, Europeans have been at the whole "making guns" thing far longer than Americans.
What does bother me about Springfield is that for some reason they won't let you buy any factory parts for your XD so you can have spares on-hand. Why is that?
What does bother me about Springfield is that for some reason they won't let you buy any factory parts for your XD so you can have spares on-hand. Why is that?
Y'all also should consider that if Glocks and XD's were all made in the US with US made parts and labor, the cost would be significantly higher. That is just economics.
Your Saturn may be "assembled" in the US, but are all the parts made there?
Your Saturn may be "assembled" in the US, but are all the parts made there?
they don't have any ?
Rmart30
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most of the parts can be bought on XDGUYS.com......... in 30 yrs of owning guns Ive never needed to replace a part and hope i never do unless its some kinda nice upgrade
Opel is a GM company.
As far as the XD line goes, it's my favorite gun I've had. It shoots well, is easy to maintain, and is comfortable to carry.
Plus the springfield lifetime warranty is 2nd to none. Taurus claims to have a lifetime warranty, but that is because it will take a lifetime to get any results with them.
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many people drink the XD kool aid
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