Springfield XD- Made in Croatia?

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Full Metal Jacket said:
i haven't seen a single post on this thread that claimed that.
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Are you saying the insinuation was not there?.....LMAO

I guess the deception in some posts is similar to SA advertising/marketing. ;)

Full Metal Jacket said:
there's no denying springfield armory downplayed the fact that xd's are made in croatia. even though it's on the frame, a lot of folks didn't notice it until they bought it and took it home. it was also not made overtly obvious in their ads.
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If the XD's were made in Germany or Switzerland would you complain about it?
 
Are you saying the insinuation was not there?.....LMAO

I guess the deception in some posts is similar to SA advertising/marketing
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that's not what i meant. i wasn't trying to insinuate that people wouldn't have bought it had they known.....i was one of those people. bought an xd when they first came out (under the new "XD" moniker)


stop "reading between the lines" lol ;)
 
Full Metal Jacket said:
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that's not what i meant. i wasn't trying to insinuate that people wouldn't have bought it had they known.....i was one of those people. bought an xd when they first came out (under the new "XD" moniker)


stop "reading between the lines" lol ;)
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Oooook! ;) LOL
 
And Doctors used to endorse Cigarettes, praising their smooth and healthful flavors.

Advertising, you have to love it.

It invades every part of our Media. You can ignore it, you can appreciate it for what it is, or the creative forces behind it.

I've had a few XD in my hands at various gun shows recently, but until pulling up the webpage, my hand has always obscured the grip markings. When on my computer, the words were about as visible as they could be short of outlining them in day-glo.

I've looked at the included "freebies" for many people, having an easy holster and a few extra bits is comforting to some people, some others would just get something else entirely for their holster and gear.

My personal, (and completely arbitrary, nearly idiotic) choice in not buying an XDm this week is based on the striker indicator on the back. It reminds me of the bright orange thing sticking out of the back of a Bryco saturday night special I cleaned for my friend.

Yes, they are nothing like each other, just having it stick out bothers me.

They're serviceable guns, the gentleman behind my wife at her CCW class had an XD in .45 he was in love with.

As to the Croatian manufacture... Not that long ago they suffered warfare was in the streets. I can't imagine that their needs for reliable firearms at times then, would not translate to some measure of quality to what gets exported here.

I'm sure all importers of firearms, wherever they get them from, have SOME measure of quality assurance, if nothing else, if you buy new, you'll get your gun repaired as long as you don't toss it in a Chipper.
 
I've known for some time about the HS2000 and the rebranding and overpricing of it as an XD. What what I more recently found out was the rebranding and overpricing of the Brazilian firearms in the 19911A1 and M1A market.

And REAPER, I think that the quote in your signature was in reference to the strap of rawhide Charlie had around the grip of his 1911 keeping the safety depressed. That was what made it obviously more dangerous than simply carrying around a pistol loaded and cocked.
 
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And REAPER, I think that the quote in your signature was in reference to the strap of rawhide Charlie had around the grip of his 1911 keeping the safety depressed. That was what made it obviously more dangerous than simply carrying around a loaded pistol loaded and cocked.
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Huh. That's very interesting.
I've always heard the story the way REAPER has it in his sig line. As in he was asked because it was cocked. I wonder which version is true?
 
I read it somewhere in "A History of the Colt Model 1911 Pistol" or something close to that name. It had an entire chapter on famous names that carried the pistol and, of course, Charlie's name was right near the top of the list with a specific mention to Rangers who carried them. It was well after he'd retired and was asked about it by someone while it was tucked into the front of his waist band without a holster, making specific reference to his gut hanging over it as well. It could have been misquoted, but they even had a picture of his 1911 that showed the rawhide wrapped around the safety.
 
I dunno but I TRY to buy American first, then I try to buy from an American company, and then I just buy. Really, I bought the XD-9C because of it's size and trigger/grip safety, Springfield is reputable and that helped. I also bought an 1911 GI Issue because it seemed authentic to the design and did not break my bank. Both guns have been perfect.

Same thing in reloading, I loved to buy Winchester primers but if you can find them they are a lot more than Wolf or Nobel Sports for shotgun.

This is a global economy folks and very few items are 100% anything. Also, Im SURE GM showed loyalty to thier American workers when they shuttered thier plants as well as other companies to be cheaper / more cost effective.
 
Otto said:
If the XD's were made in Germany or Switzerland would you complain about it?
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Of course I would still complain about the company's marketing practices (not the guns). What difference would that make?
 
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The ? Of whether the xd is a seviceble gun is a nonsequitor in the context of the op question. Springfields use of the above posted logo is disgraceful. I have no problem with imports but using the goodwill of the buying public towards the American worker to sell imports? Yes I have a problem with that!
 
Main Entry: ar·mory
Pronunciation: \ˈärm-rē, ˈär-mə-\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural ar·mor·ies
Date: 14th century
1 a : a supply of arms for defense or attack b : a collection of available resources
2 : a place where arms and military equipment are stored; especially : one used for training reserve military personnel
3 : a place where arms are manufactured

As distasteful as the use of an american icon to push their sales is to you (and i'm sure many others on as many varied principles), They fall squarely into the definition (from websters) of an Armory.

I'd agree on the image thing though, I tend to shy away from flashy promotion and extras under the auspices of "nothing for free"
 
According to an email i received from SAI in '08, the M1A rifles are made in the USA from a combination of parts made here in the US and abroad. It is well known that some of the M1A's parts are made by Wayne Machine in Taiwan, but I've never heard that any components were made in Brazil. At that time, the barrels were from the US (Wilson), the receivers were cast in Quebec and machined in the US, Op-rods and bolts were from the US, the triger groups were either USGI or from Taiwan, and the small parts were from Wayne Machine in Taiwan.

It is widely known that the 1911s are made by Imbel in Brazil, but the M1A rifles? That would be the first I've heard of that, and as a result I'm a bit leery of that claim.

Anyone have a link or something else that can verify the claim that the M1A is Brazilian made nowadays?
 
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Dnaltrop said:
Main Entry: ar·mory
Pronunciation: \ˈärm-rē, ˈär-mə-\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural ar·mor·ies
Date: 14th century
1 a : a supply of arms for defense or attack b : a collection of available resources
2 : a place where arms and military equipment are stored; especially : one used for training reserve military personnel
3 : a place where arms are manufactured

As distasteful as the use of an american icon to push their sales is to you (and i'm sure many others on as many varied principles), They fall squarely into the definition (from websters) of an Armory.
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The point is not whether they are an armory, but that they are not the historic Springfield Armory that they named themselves after, and that the firearms they sell are not American-made as they imply.
 
I personally don't care where a gun is made or imported from, I buy what I percieve to be quality merchandise, don't care what the brand is.:neener:

I've had my XD-40 for 2 years now, close to 4000 rounds through it, no failures. It fits my hand like a glove, is very accurate, and is very comfortable for me to shoot.

I'm not a buy American snob, I buy quality, irrespective of the brand.

I also drive a Subaru, don't care what you think about it.:neener:
 
I knew since I first found out about the XD that it is crotian but I never knew that the the 1911s were made in brazil, I've never held one outside of a gunshop so I never looked at where is was made.
 
Springfield Armory does not really make any guns.
So, what country does the M1A come from? Brazil.
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Really Reaper? How about a little proof of that? Last I heard, they were being made here in the USA. Perhaps you'd care to enlighten us.

Kahr, Ruger, Colt, FNH, Beretta, Sig, and a number of other guns are still made here in America. Please, let's not give the sell-outs at S&W any more help by actually saying that they are the only American gun-maker. They started politicking for limits on hand-guns in a 1975 or 1977 issue of American Rifleman. Easily before Mr. Ruger. Look it up.
 
Really Reaper? How about a little proof of that? Last I heard, they were being made here in the USA.
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That depends on your definition of "made here." SA M1/M1A's are assembled from a bunch of different parts at different times. Some use USGI surplus parts, some use Asian parts, some use IMBEL parts, Etc.
 
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