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Steven Crowder attempts to jump through the gun show loophole!
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Salmoneye
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I see corn and Chicago and him asking some guys if he can buy if he lives out of state.
I don't see him actually trying make a purchase from a private seller.
There are only a handful of states that do not regulate private gun transfers at gun shows.
Colorado has regulated them since 2013.
Making a blanket statement about the "gun show loophole", is a lie.
Un-educated sheep will believe this statement, that's why Obama says it all the time.
Colorado has regulated them since 2013.
Making a blanket statement about the "gun show loophole", is a lie.
Un-educated sheep will believe this statement, that's why Obama says it all the time.
If by a" handful of" you mean most states then yes, that is true. Or , if by "regulate" you mean require the buyer to be able to legally own the firearm he is buying then yes, that is also true. Its all semantics at this point. Most states do not require buyers at gun shows who purchase from a private seller to do anything paperwork wise. Colorado as does the whole west coast and the upper east coast and a few in between but the majority of states do not require anything other than a handshake to buy a gun at a gunshow from a private seller. The guy in the video wasnt trying very hard.
Coloradoshooter covered the legal angle well. My point is this. Had he wanted to purchase a gun at the show without a background check I am quite confident he could do so. I've attended shows where a "private seller" had a table full of guns with a sign that said "private seller no background checks" and others here on THR have reported the same. However the point of the video was to show that one cannot buy a gun without a background check so that is what was shown.
Maybe people should differentiate between rifles, versus handguns across any state lines---
A resident of state A can Not legally buy a handgun from a private seller in a different state, unless the gun is shipped between two FFLs, where the background checks are performed.
This is the situation for everybody (we don't know who 'Else' is reading this...). Maybe the video should have covered that.
A resident of state A can Not legally buy a handgun from a private seller in a different state, unless the gun is shipped between two FFLs, where the background checks are performed.
This is the situation for everybody (we don't know who 'Else' is reading this...). Maybe the video should have covered that.
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stchman
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This video was hilarious.
I wonder how many FFLs he tried that with called the cops on him or at the very least threw him out of their store?
I wonder how many FFLs he tried that with called the cops on him or at the very least threw him out of their store?
Deanimator
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What you do at a gun show is inapplicable to what he did. He went to the exact show Obama is complaining about - that was THE POINT OF THE VIDEO. Only FFL's were selling guns at that show.
That is not uncommon.
The largest gun show (2x / year) where I live has rules for the show in which anyone selling a gun must have an FFL. Private sales between individuals are not allowed.
This is not a state law this is a gun show rule and as long as I have attended the show (35 years) it has always been that way.
Please don't extrapolate experiences you have had at a gun show as being ubiquitously applicable to every gun show.
No, he tried to purchase from private sellers with no background check required. But he stated he was from Illinois and they all refused him for being out of state.
He wasn't an Indiana resident, so he couldn't have bought a gun from a private party in the first place, with or without a background check. So that's what they showed. That it's not legal for a person to cross the border from one state to another and buy and gun and walk away with it. It thought it was quite clear. You can't buy fully automatic or other NFA without heavy restrictions (no cash and carry), that you can't but from an FFL without a background check, period, and that you can't buy from a private party if you're not a resident of that state.
Please don't pretend a person can't purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check. Again, this video was shot and cut to give the intended outcome.
Presumably they would have checked his ID, and denied to sell if he was from out of state.
But we know, you support Universal Background Checks and everything included. So for some reason, you want to prove the anti's right. You want to prove that people can exploit this "loophole", when the rest of us just call it "the law."
Federal law says it is legal for face to face gun sales without a background check, provided the buyer and seller are both from, and in, the same state. The venue does not matter to anyone but people who want to restrict the rights of citizens and abolish the presumption of innocence.
Deanimator
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Please don't pretend that that's what this is really about.
This isn't about "background checks".
It's about getting the camel's nose under the tent to pave the way for REGISTRATION.
EVERYBODY knows it.
Please explain the "gun show loophole" that pertains to private sales. What is this loophole for private sales at gunshows that is different from private sales from the newspaper, flea markets, yard sales, or gunbroker? What is this "loophole" for gun shows? And if this "loophole" is applicable to all private sales, why don't they call it a "private sales loophole", or for that matter, what makes it a "loophhole"?
I'm thinking maybe you should push these regulations in your home state, wherever "PDX" is, and leave the other 49 state's laws to the people who live there instead of imposing federal rule.
Deanimator
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The "loophole" is that EVERY gun and EVERY gun owner aren't REGISTERED.
Without REGISTRATION, future CONFISCATION is MUCH harder.
That's the "loophole".
That's the goal.
Who said "tell a lie enough times and it becomes the truth"? Politicians have that saying plastered on their walls.
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danez71
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JSH1, have you illegally bought a gun at a gun show? Have you personally seen an illegal gun sale at a gun show?
OilyPablo
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NRA says it, we say it, it doesn't happen.
Criminals rarely, almost never, buy guns at gunshows.
Criminals associate mainly with....well criminals, and when they interact with the innocent public, or innocent gun seller, it often is with nefarious intent. The laws exist. Enforce them!
Criminals rarely, almost never, buy guns at gunshows.
Criminals associate mainly with....well criminals, and when they interact with the innocent public, or innocent gun seller, it often is with nefarious intent. The laws exist. Enforce them!
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