suppose you are working in a restaurant. all the customers have left. you see a man approaching with a shotgun. so you have time to take cover. now, all the employees are at the back of the restaurant to scared to goto the front. if you could shoot the bad guy, would you? of course, you have already pressed the panic button and called 911.
suppose a robbery??
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Treo
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So is the bad guy running around alone at the front of the restaurant?
Here's what I'd do , I'd sneak up behind him, cock my piece so it made that real loud Hollywood "CLICK" ,then I'd say "Yoo-Hoo I'll make you famous." . As soon as the guy turned around I'd unload on him. Then while he's laying on the floor bleeding. I'd say " I know what your thinking, you're asking yourself did he fire six shots or only five......"
Then when it was all over I'd just kick back and wait for that hot,little ,blonde waitress who just turned 18 ,to melt at me feet.
And then I'd find another job because the owner fired me for packing while I was in his restaurant.
Here's what I'd do , I'd sneak up behind him, cock my piece so it made that real loud Hollywood "CLICK" ,then I'd say "Yoo-Hoo I'll make you famous." . As soon as the guy turned around I'd unload on him. Then while he's laying on the floor bleeding. I'd say " I know what your thinking, you're asking yourself did he fire six shots or only five......"
Then when it was all over I'd just kick back and wait for that hot,little ,blonde waitress who just turned 18 ,to melt at me feet.
And then I'd find another job because the owner fired me for packing while I was in his restaurant.
Six O'clock Tactical
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Id get behind something large, (cash registers usually have alot of metal in them) and draw on him, use verbal commands and drop him if he even looks like hes going to level out that cannon.
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if i felt like he just wanted the money and didnt want to harm anyone, id give him the money and let him walk out the door. the money is insured and theres no point in escaladeing an already ****ty event.... how if we walked in the door and shot into the air and had general physcotic behavior, the first chance i got to draw and shoot i would take
At cost of perhaps needing to defend yourself at trial,
do you have any obligation to protect the property of your employer?
I would consider that weapon to be a tool for saving life. If I felt the need to save life, then leather will be cleared.
I would not put myself at any significant risk to retain cash in the cash register. If someone is willing to take all associated risks in attempting a
robbery of the type you've described...
Attempted Robbery is a "respectable" charge, but
Robbery sounds "better", as far as court goes.
I just hijacked this thread from "Strategies and Tactics" like it was from "Legal".
To keep the topic "S&T"...
Considering the scenario given, I'd be as attentive as possible so as to be able to accurately recall details later. If I were drawn into being a servant
for the robber ("open the register or else"), then act calm and do as the robber says providing that the worst thing happening right now is you/me being swept with some weapon.
If the robber wants all employees to enter the freezer or somehow things escalate to the robber harming people...
do you have any obligation to protect the property of your employer?
I would consider that weapon to be a tool for saving life. If I felt the need to save life, then leather will be cleared.
I would not put myself at any significant risk to retain cash in the cash register. If someone is willing to take all associated risks in attempting a
robbery of the type you've described...
Attempted Robbery is a "respectable" charge, but
Robbery sounds "better", as far as court goes.
I just hijacked this thread from "Strategies and Tactics" like it was from "Legal".
To keep the topic "S&T"...
Considering the scenario given, I'd be as attentive as possible so as to be able to accurately recall details later. If I were drawn into being a servant
for the robber ("open the register or else"), then act calm and do as the robber says providing that the worst thing happening right now is you/me being swept with some weapon.
If the robber wants all employees to enter the freezer or somehow things escalate to the robber harming people...
TallPine
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I probably wouldn't go up front to take his order, even though he is probably just on his way home from a long day of pheasant hunting and didn't want to leave his shotgun in the car. 
The Tourist
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Shotgun?
I would scream and go running like a scared little girl.
And so would most of the chairborne rangers here.
I would scream and go running like a scared little girl.
And so would most of the chairborne rangers here.
Treo
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I have a novel idea if the employees are in the back and the bag guy is alone in the front.....GO OUT THE BACK DOOR!!!!!!
Minimun wage does not pay enough to get in a gun fight
Minimun wage does not pay enough to get in a gun fight
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I'd cut a deal with the boss.
I take care of this guy and you feed me for free forever.
I take care of this guy and you feed me for free forever.
Blackbeard
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I'd run him over with my Cadillac, too.
Mainsail
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Not much info. Might he be a hunter, lost, and looking to ask you where the heck he ended up? Maybe a cowboy action shooter needing the phone?
There's not enough information there to give an educated answer.
You shoot when your life is in danger, not merely because you have an active imagination.
the reason why i'm asking:
this scenario has already happened. i even have it on tape. the cashier noticed the masked and hooded bad guy sneak up with a shotgun. she jumped back. he kept yelling at them to open the window. when he had trouble racking the slide, both employees ran to the back. both employees refused to walk back to the window and open it. they did not want to run outside. they pushed the panic button, called 911. and watched the bad guy break the window and steal the cash.
the family dollar next door has been robbed 3 times, twice in one week, the subways down the street got robbed with a shotgun. i'm not including burglaries.
at our other location, the convenience store next door got robbed. the animal clinic behind us got burglarized and this is in a relatively nice neighborhood.
this scenario has already happened. i even have it on tape. the cashier noticed the masked and hooded bad guy sneak up with a shotgun. she jumped back. he kept yelling at them to open the window. when he had trouble racking the slide, both employees ran to the back. both employees refused to walk back to the window and open it. they did not want to run outside. they pushed the panic button, called 911. and watched the bad guy break the window and steal the cash.
the family dollar next door has been robbed 3 times, twice in one week, the subways down the street got robbed with a shotgun. i'm not including burglaries.
at our other location, the convenience store next door got robbed. the animal clinic behind us got burglarized and this is in a relatively nice neighborhood.
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The Tourist
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In none of the real life scenarios you have just mentioned has any other real person exchanged gunfire with the felon.
Treo
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QUOTE: "Someone bent on robbery wouldn't be marching in with an exposed shotgun."
Happened right here in Colorado Springs. Guy walked up to a credit union W/ a shotgun , the (armed) security guard walked up to the door the BG screamed "Please don't shoot" and ran
Happened right here in Colorado Springs. Guy walked up to a credit union W/ a shotgun , the (armed) security guard walked up to the door the BG screamed "Please don't shoot" and ran
the tourist,
is that a question. none of the businesses were expecting. we've had a recent increase in crime. none of the businesses had video surveillance except me. the same bad guy who did us did the dry cleaners. they now have surveillance. also, many people aren't even packing. i'm in a situation, as manager to fear for my life every time i walk outside the backdoor. so i carry and want to know what yall would do?
is that a question. none of the businesses were expecting. we've had a recent increase in crime. none of the businesses had video surveillance except me. the same bad guy who did us did the dry cleaners. they now have surveillance. also, many people aren't even packing. i'm in a situation, as manager to fear for my life every time i walk outside the backdoor. so i carry and want to know what yall would do?
this is a snapshot of our video surveillance.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2602974020086654270GFFroT
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2602974020086654270GFFroT
The Tourist
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Yes, I meant it as a question, but based on the observation of the printed report here.
(Never assume, but there was no mention of shots fired by a citizen, so I assumed none were.)
I'll have to be honest here, I seldom hear of any. I remember Ayoob writing an article on a watchmaker who had been in three or four gunfights defending his shop. Like anything else, it was news because it's a rare occurance.
Even in that case, I believe the watchmaker was hit once or twice.
Granted, I'd rather be armed and in control of my own fate. However, I've come to accept the fact that while you can seldom schedule an emergency, the felons do. Frankly, while I'm sharpening I do not think of street crime.
(Never assume, but there was no mention of shots fired by a citizen, so I assumed none were.)
I'll have to be honest here, I seldom hear of any. I remember Ayoob writing an article on a watchmaker who had been in three or four gunfights defending his shop. Like anything else, it was news because it's a rare occurance.
Even in that case, I believe the watchmaker was hit once or twice.
Granted, I'd rather be armed and in control of my own fate. However, I've come to accept the fact that while you can seldom schedule an emergency, the felons do. Frankly, while I'm sharpening I do not think of street crime.
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