Swedish Police, What Are They Carrying?

[Axis II]

Your law enforcement actually issued Hi Point carbines?

got a few buddies on local pd and they had hi points for many years and now outdated AR's. we are poor around here.

 

[Vinnie Boombatz]

I speak real English because thats where i come from...

So you're saying you come from English? And 'thats'?
Evidently, in the land of English one does not learn syntax and grammar while one is learning one's 'real english'?

...Downton Abbey was pure English...

Downtown Abbey was pure English? Helloooo, syntax!
Are you really 'from English' or did you study 'Vulgar English as a Second Language' as a foreign exchange student?

the music of Abba.

Abba?
LMFAO!

Downtown Abbey and Abba?
Well there goes irrefutable evidence of the superiority of European culture - and America's lack thereof - that Europeans snivel about.

BTW, be sure to pick out a nice outfit for Coronation Day when you crown the Khalifah of The Eurabian Union!

Cheerio !

 

[Theohazard]

Maybe somebody could chime in with the exact brand of rifle and it's furniture if anybody cared.

As others have pointed out, those are LWRC rifles. I'm 100% sure of that since the shop I work at sells LWRCs and I look at them every day. The have a very distinct proprietary lengthened upper receiver that mates directly to a proprietary handguard. I'm guessing those are their 10.5" barrel M6-IC SBRs (or maybe a full-auto version of that model), but I have a hard time guessing barrel length from pictures.

The furniture on those rifles are Magpul CTR stocks and Magpul AFG2 angled foregrips. If you look closely, you can also see that the rifles have LAW Tactical side-folding buffer tubes installed. The silencers are definitely made by Surefire, but I can't tell which generation they are. The flashlights are probably Surefire Scout weapon lights due to the distinctive tape switch adapter, but it's hard to tell for sure.

As for the optics, magnifiers, laser modules, and slings, I can't tell what those are.

 

[grampajack]

The C8.

Handguards and stocks can get replaced pretty easily.


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The LWRC rifles I've seen look all proprietary. I can't imagine how you could make a C8 look like an LWRC. Or why you would want to in the first place.

 

[bearcreek]

As others have pointed out, those are LWRC rifles. I'm 100% sure of that since the shop I work at sells LWRCs and I look at them every day. The have a very distinct proprietary lengthened upper receiver that mates directly to a proprietary handguard. I'm guessing those are their 10.5" barrel M6-IC SBRs (or maybe a full-auto version of that model), but I have a hard time guessing barrel length from pictures.

The furniture on those rifles are Magpul CTR stocks and Magpul AFG2 angled foregrips. If you look closely, you can also see that the rifles have LAW Tactical side-folding buffer tubes installed. The silencers are definitely made by Surefire, but I can't tell which generation they are. The flashlights are probably Surefire Scout weapon lights due to the distinctive tape switch adapter, but it's hard to tell for sure.

I'm aware of that. That was my guess as well. My point was that if we had just strictly stuck to answering the OP's question this thread wouldn't have been nearly as interesting and lively.

 

[bearcreek]

got a few buddies on local pd and they had hi points for many years and now outdated AR's. we are poor around here.

That's a bummer. Our county sheriff's dept. doesn't issue anything. Each deputy buys their own sidearm and rifle or shotgun. It's interesting seeing what some of them choose.

 

[Axis II]

That's a bummer. Our county sheriff's dept. doesn't issue anything. Each deputy buys their own sidearm and rifle or shotgun. It's interesting seeing what some of them choose.

I know some can buy their own AR at least that's the way it was a few years back. what county you in?

 

[Speedo66]

Some of the comments here are mystifying, ridiculous chest thumping, "we're the best" crap. To say that the ability to possess certain guns is what makes the US "the best" is beyond belief. This is a gun hobbyist website, tens of millions in this country would disagree that guns are what makes it great.

A recent Forbe's poll of the happiest countries in the world, we weren't even in the top ten, but all the Scandinavian countries were. Maybe people figure almost free universal health care and free higher education are more important than having a certain gun. I certainly do, and I served time in the military, was a law enforcement officer for forty years, and have always been a shooter. Believe it or not, there are countries I've traveled to that do not have corrupt politicians, have an overall higher standard of living, and a better educated population. Guns are great, but they don't make up for those things in determining which country is the best. We've got a wonderful country here, but it could be better.

Criticizing a non native speaker for punctuation, please, that's just embarrassing. I've seen much worse from native speakers right here on this site and I doubt very many here could do any better in any foreign language.

If this thread has come down to this, it's time to close it. I've gotten the answers to the questions I originally asked.

 

[RPRNY]

Some of the comments here are mystifying, ridiculous chest thumping, "we're the best" crap. To say that the ability to possess certain guns is what makes the US "the best" is beyond belief. This is a gun hobbyist website, tens of millions in this country would disagree that guns are what makes it great.

A recent Forbe's poll of the happiest countries in the world, we weren't even in the top ten, but all the Scandinavian countries were. Maybe people figure almost free universal health care and free higher education are more important than having a certain gun. I certainly do, and I served time in the military, was a law enforcement officer for forty years, and have always been a shooter. Believe it or not, there are countries I've traveled to that do not have corrupt politicians, have an overall higher standard of living, and a better educated population. Guns are great, but they don't make up for those things in determining which country is the best. We've got a wonderful country here, but it could be better.

Criticizing a non native speaker for punctuation, please, that's just embarrassing. I've seen much worse from native speakers right here on this site and I doubt very many here could do any better in any foreign language.

If this thread has come down to this, it's time to close it. I've gotten the answers to the questions I originally asked.

Thanks for the lecture. It was edifying. Not, perhaps, in the way that you hoped.

The point made above by another poster regarding guns and freedom was more about freedom than guns. Having lived in Sweden, unlike you, I can tell you that it's a wonderful place with just as many happy and unhappy people as I find around me in the US, though perhaps more alcohol fueled happiness there than here, at least among my acquaintances. However, from a legal and cultural perspective, the US is more free. The deeply seated socialist mentality in Swedish society, where children learn very early at school that the proud nail gets hammered down, may in fact allow for 'happiness' in a less free society. That's fine. It should not be our business to tell people in other countries how to live or what to believe. But your rant rather clearly exemplifies the attitude of shame about American exceptionalism often found in those who believe that renouncing American exceptionalism confers a degree of cosmopolitanism on them.

When someone who may or may not be a native speaker (there is ambiguity in that issue here) claims expertise in the English language and that the version he uses is far superior to that used in this country while, at the same time, making spelling, grammar, and syntax errors in that language, questioning the alleged expertise professed by the poster does not seem unfair. But again, this may speak to one's efforts to ingratiate oneself with ones Eurofriends.

Often those who seek to be viewed as cosmopolitan and who are practitioners of virtue-signaling seem to think that stifling views that contradict their own is appropriate. It is not. Part of American exceptionalism, a part that is currently under wide assault by those with pretentions to cosmopolitanism, is the unyielding support for freedom of expression, even for those views that, as a citizen of the world, you may not necessarily agree with. THR is a private website and the strictures of freedom of expression that forbid government infringement do not apply. But there are moderators here who will determine what ideas and views may be expressed. Happily, you need not undertake that role yourself.

 

[grampajack]

Some of the comments here are mystifying, ridiculous chest thumping, "we're the best" crap. To say that the ability to possess certain guns is what makes the US "the best" is beyond belief. This is a gun hobbyist website, tens of millions in this country would disagree that guns are what makes it great.

A recent Forbe's poll of the happiest countries in the world, we weren't even in the top ten, but all the Scandinavian countries were. Maybe people figure almost free universal health care and free higher education are more important than having a certain gun. I certainly do, and I served time in the military, was a law enforcement officer for forty years, and have always been a shooter. Believe it or not, there are countries I've traveled to that do not have corrupt politicians, have an overall higher standard of living, and a better educated population. Guns are great, but they don't make up for those things in determining which country is the best. We've got a wonderful country here, but it could be better.

Criticizing a non native speaker for punctuation, please, that's just embarrassing. I've seen much worse from native speakers right here on this site and I doubt very many here could do any better in any foreign language.

If this thread has come down to this, it's time to close it. I've gotten the answers to the questions I originally asked.

No one ever said that gun ownership is the only thing that makes America what it is, but it's a big part of it. It's our constitution that makes us great, and the second amendment is arguably the most important aspect of that document. Historically speaking, only slaves lacked the right to own weapons.

Furthermore, let's see how happy those countries are when the gravy train runs out of steam and they no longer have "free" healthcare. You've also been misled about higher education being free over there. First of all, you have to have the government's permission to go to college, then you have to take out student loans if your parents can't afford to pay for it. It's pretty much the same system as we have here, except not everyone has the opportunity to go. For example, take a single mother who dropped out of high school and now wants to get a degree. Here in the US it happens all the time. Not over there. And this is to say nothing about all the people who die on waiting lists due to healthcare rationing in socialist countries. I wonder how happy they are?

Or maybe we could talk about all the people who were forced into early retirement, their pensions cut in half? I know such people. One guy I know was an electrician his whole life, and was forced into early retirement about ten years shy. They literally cut his pension in half, despite the fact that he had been paying into it his entire adult life. They basically took his job and half his pension and gave it to a younger person, and his employer had no say in this (yea, that's right, the government decides who gets the job, not the employer). Where I come from that's called tyranny.

Speaking of tyranny, what do you call it when politicians bring in a hostile foreign element against the will of their own people, then take away said people's right to defend themselves? What we witnessed there the other day was a government murdering its own citizens. All over Western Europe there are rapes, beatings, and murders happening on a daily basis, and these poor people aren't allowed so much as a pea shooter to protect themselves. What the hell do you call that? I would call it corruption, my friend, and so would anyone else with half their wits left.

You're also disrespecting the people who took the time out of their day to come answer your little question. Do you think we work for you and you can sit there and dictate to us what we can and can't discuss? We answered your question definitively within the first few posts. You got what you came for so have a little respect for the people who were kind enough to answer your question.

And that non native speaker to whom you're referring had it coming to him. How do you think a French Canadian would like it if I sat there belittling his country while informing him in my terrible French that I spoke "real French?" He would probably get pretty pissed off, don't ya think?

 

[RoscoeBryant]

No one ever said that gun ownership is the only thing that makes America what it is, but it's a big part of it. It's our constitution that makes us great, and the second amendment is arguably the most important aspect of that document. Historically speaking, only slaves lacked the right to own weapons.

Furthermore, let's see how happy those countries are when the gravy train runs out of steam and they no longer have "free" healthcare. You've also been misled about higher education being free over there. First of all, you have to have the government's permission to go to college, then you have to take out student loans if your parents can't afford to pay for it. It's pretty much the same system as we have here, except not everyone has the opportunity to go. For example, take a single mother who dropped out of high school and now wants to get a degree. Here in the US it happens all the time. Not over there. And this is to say nothing about all the people who die on waiting lists due to healthcare rationing in socialist countries. I wonder how happy they are?

Or maybe we could talk about all the people who were forced into early retirement, their pensions cut in half? I know such people. One guy I know was an electrician his whole life, and was forced into early retirement about ten years shy. They literally cut his pension in half, despite the fact that he had been paying into it his entire adult life. They basically took his job and half his pension and gave it to a younger person, and his employer had no say in this (yea, that's right, the government decides who gets the job, not the employer). Where I come from that's called tyranny.

Speaking of tyranny, what do you call it when politicians bring in a hostile foreign element against the will of their own people, then take away said people's right to defend themselves? What we witnessed there the other day was a government murdering its own citizens. All over Western Europe there are rapes, beatings, and murders happening on a daily basis, and these poor people aren't allowed so much as a pea shooter to protect themselves. What the hell do you call that? I would call it corruption, my friend, and so would anyone else with half their wits left.

You're also disrespecting the people who took the time out of their day to come answer your little question. Do you think we work for you and you can sit there and dictate to us what we can and can't discuss? We answered your question definitively within the first few posts. You got what you came for so have a little respect for the people who were kind enough to answer your question.

And that non native speaker to whom you're referring had it coming to him. How do you think a French Canadian would like it if I sat there belittling his country while informing him in my terrible French that I spoke "real French?" He would probably get pretty pissed off, don't ya think?

I am sorry but I have to correcto you on some things here. First of all tertiary education in Sweden is not only free of charge for all EU-citizens, but there also is an "allowance"-system in place for covering parts of a students cost of living while studying (you do have to fulfill a few requirements like a maximum number of semesters/trimesters etc.). It actually is a lot easier for a single mother to get a degree, not only because there are no tuition fees.

The other thing that is blown wildly out of proportion is the connection between the "hostile foreign element" and murders or rapes across Europe. There certainly has been an increase in some types of crime due to the refugee crisis, but the amount of media attention it recieves is completely disproportionate to its actual share of rapes or murders. I am not saying there is no problem whatsoever - just reminding you, that criminals are a problem regardless of their origin, and focusing on only one type of offender is a horrible attitude towards the victims of all other types of offenders.

I completely agree with you however on idiotic politicians trying (and sadly too often succeding) in taking away peoples rights. Not only regarding firearms, but also regarding things like freedom of speech ("hatespeech" is actually outlawed in some european countries, with very very vague and broad definitions what that means), government surveillance, exceeding police authorities etc.. Sadly, politicians everywhere oftentimes get away with their lies, because a lot of people are sheepish and fear-driven, so they lightly believe whoever makes them feel safe...

 

[9mmepiphany]

This has gotten way too far off track to try to save.