Swedish Police, What Are They Carrying?

[RPRNY]

Plenty of guns in Sweden. I lived there in the early 90s and shot Swedish Mausers, Anshutz 22s, and shotguns at clays and capercaillie at a girlfriend's family farm up in Dalarna. Hunted deer as well. That was strange. Where we hunted, we were restricted to buckshot, not even slugs. In the two days I was out, never got a deer close enough for a shot but another fellow in the group took a very nice buck. The girlfriend's father shot moose farther North with the 6.5x55 and 160 grs RNSP. Their moose are smaller. Also had a friend in Uppsala who was very into Western Americana and he had several Winchester lever guns and at least two period 1873 Single Action Colts that he was rightly very proud of.

 

[doubleh]

No speculation on the guns but one of the women is wearing Saucony brand shoes.

 

[herrwalther]

Looking at the photo again, the officer on the left has yellow bands on his magazines. Kind of makes me think of the rubber bands they make for .300 Blackout mags.

Or they could just be identification bands so his teammates don't take his magazines. Yellow bands belong to Olaf. Or whatever his name is.

 

[Speedo66]

Very uniform, even look like they're all wearing the same watches. Can anyone with more recent military experience figure out what devices are on their helmets, and what the center officer is carrying in his vest?

 

[herrwalther]

Very uniform, even look like they're all wearing the same watches. Can anyone with more recent military experience figure out what devices are on their helmets, and what the center officer is carrying in his vest?

The two officers in the foreground have Rhino mounts to attach night vision. The officer behind, with the shield, just has the mounting plate that the Rhino mounts into. I am not sure what the rest of the helmet accessories are other than the side mounting rails. The small black rectangular box on their chests above the "POLICE" lettering looks like a radio amplifier to extend the range of handheld radios.

 

[HoosierQ]

I like the boots! Nice rifles too.

 

[dekibg]

Be thankful you live in the USA. You, as a civilian, can legally have everything that the cops have in that picture. Don't have to be a cop. Sweden, not even close.

"American exceptionalism" as an attitude in general, is very irritating to other nations. Even to our Western allies.
Gun ownership is not necessarily that much valued in other countries - they may have other priorities or hobbies.
And, contrary to popular belief, not everyone is "dying to move to the USA". I have met a lot of people from around the world, that are perfectly happy where they live, without any desire to live here. Most of those, actually visited USA at least once.

 

[RPRNY]

"American exceptionalism" as an attitude in general, is very irritating to other nations. Even to our Western allies.
Gun ownership is not necessarily that much valued in other countries - they may have other priorities or hobbies.
And, contrary to popular belief, not everyone is "dying to move to the USA". I have met a lot of people from around the world, that are perfectly happy where they live, without any desire to live here. Most of those, actually visited USA at least once.

Having lived in four other countries during 17 years abroad, and worked on the ground in over 50 countries, yes, American exception is annoying to many foreigners. And, apparently, to many residents here. It seems particularly annoying to Americans who have spent a little time abroad and think that by denying American exceptionalism they are demonstrating some form of sophistication or cosmopolitanism. Or maybe they are just trying to curry favor with their annoyed Eurofriends. I can understand Johnny Foreign being irked by it. I've never understood the American deniers.

 

[bearcreek]

"American exceptionalism" as an attitude in general, is very irritating to other nations. Even to our Western allies.
Gun ownership is not necessarily that much valued in other countries - they may have other priorities or hobbies.
And, contrary to popular belief, not everyone is "dying to move to the USA". I have met a lot of people from around the world, that are perfectly happy where they live, without any desire to live here. Most of those, actually visited USA at least once.

My post had nothing whatsoever to do with "American exceptionalism" although I'm not at all embarrassed to say the USA is exceptional. I was stating a fact. Here in the US, civilians can legally own and use every single item that the police officers in that picture are carrying or wearing. That can be said of very few other places and certainly not Sweden. That's not my opinion on which country is better, that's a fact.

 

[grampajack]

"American exceptionalism" as an attitude in general, is very irritating to other nations. Even to our Western allies.
Gun ownership is not necessarily that much valued in other countries - they may have other priorities or hobbies.
And, contrary to popular belief, not everyone is "dying to move to the USA". I have met a lot of people from around the world, that are perfectly happy where they live, without any desire to live here. Most of those, actually visited USA at least once.

Try living under some other governments for a while and you'll be singing the praises of American exceptionalism. There is no civilized society on this planet with the degree of personal liberty that we enjoy. Why do you think every major advancement of the 20th century came from us? Why do you think the rest of the world listens to our music, watches our movies and television, uses our technology, wears our clothes, speaks American English, and trades with our petrodollar? Get a clue.

 

[Skoghund]

Try living under some other governments for a while and you'll be singing the praises of American exceptionalism. There is no civilized society on this planet with the degree of personal liberty that we enjoy. Why do you think every major advancement of the 20th century came from us? Why do you think the rest of the world listens to our music, watches our movies and television, uses our technology, wears our clothes, speaks American English, and trades with our petrodollar? Get a clue.

Well i don't speak American English. I speak real English because thats where i come from. Every major advancement of the 20th century from the USA, Your having a laugh matey.
Best Music in the 60's came from the UK. American TV, Leave it out. Downton Abbey was pure English. Never read such a load of Old Cock and bull in all my life..
As i live in Sweden,another great country for technology plus not forgetting the music of Abba.We can own rifles shotguns .pistols and i believe at least a thousand machine guns in private hands. A country of 10 million people that produces it own fighter air planes. So while have enjoyed the US when i have visited it,s not all that.

 

[dekibg]

Try living under some other governments for a while and you'll be singing the praises of American exceptionalism. There is no civilized society on this planet with the degree of personal liberty that we enjoy. Why do you think every major advancement of the 20th century came from us? Why do you think the rest of the world listens to our music, watches our movies and television, uses our technology, wears our clothes, speaks American English, and trades with our petrodollar? Get a clue.

Oh, I see . I feel really bad for all those poor, oppressed New Zealanders and Canadians, for example.
I guess after thinking it over, I "got a clue".
To agree with you on some :
music- yes
TV-yes
technology-yes
But "wearing our clothes" - hardly ( if you mean fashion-wise), and technically speaking - even here, most of us are wearing Asian-manufactured clothes.
...this all comes from Trump voter if it means anything.

 

[bearcreek]

As i live in Sweden,another great country for technology plus not forgetting the music of Abba.We can own rifles shotguns .pistols and i believe at least a thousand machine guns in private hands.

What are the laws on civilian ownership and carry of semi auto, mag fed rifles and handguns there? My understanding was that it is quite restrictive comparatively speaking but it's certainly possible I've got the wrong impression.

 

[Skoghund]

What are the laws on civilian ownership and carry of semi auto, mag fed rifles and handguns there? My understanding was that it is quite restrictive comparatively speaking but it's certainly possible I've got the wrong impression.

You can own a semi auto rifle for hunting or shooting targets. I think under the idiot EU laws coming soon that semi autos will be limited to ten rounds. Its only one in the chamber and two in the mag for hunting. Pistols and revolvers can only be owned for shooting club use. Too get a rifle or shotgun for hunting you must do the hunting exam. This can take up to nine months to do or you can study the books and do a weeks intensive course. People are quite easy going about guns as many people have a relative or friend that hunts and its seen by the government to be good for people to be out in nature.
In an earlier post somebody mentioned about buckshot only being allowed for deer. You can only shoot roe deer with a shotgun from the 1st October. Normally when hunting roe with a dog . Slugs can be used on fallow and mouflon but not roe. All deer can be shot with a rifle. Sweden has the tightest density of moose in the world.

 

[bearcreek]

You can own a semi auto rifle for hunting or shooting targets. I think under the idiot EU laws coming soon that semi autos will be limited to ten rounds. Its only one in the chamber and two in the mag for hunting. Pistols and revolvers can only be owned for shooting club use. Too get a rifle or shotgun for hunting you must do the hunting exam. This can take up to nine months to do or you can study the books and do a weeks intensive course. People are quite easy going about guns as many people have a relative or friend that hunts and its seen by the government to be good for people to be out in nature.
In an earlier post somebody mentioned about buckshot only being allowed for deer. You can only shoot roe deer with a shotgun from the 1st October. Normally when hunting roe with a dog . Slugs can be used on fallow and mouflon but not roe. All deer can be shot with a rifle. Sweden has the tightest density of moose in the world.

Ok, that's about what I figured. Far more restrictive than the USA (at least the free states, Sweden sounds somewhat similar to CA or NY). My post earlier was in response to this:

all I have to say is I want to go there and become a cop cause they have some bad ass stuff!!!

My point to ohiohunter was that any law abiding citizen in the US (at least outside of a few states who violate the 2A) can own anything that the cops in the picture in the OP are carrying or wearing. The rifles and magazines, the pistols, the helmets, the body armor, the ballistic shield, all of it. If he works for the right police department here in the US he can have all the "bad ass stuff" paid for by his department just as much as he could in Sweden.

Just to be clear, I'm not trying to dis Sweden here. I'd love to visit sometime actually. I've always been interested in that region's history, particularly the Viking era and the exploration that went on at that time.

 

[Sistema1927]

This one sure went off track.

 

[bearcreek]

This one sure went off track.

Woulda been kind of a short, boring thread if we'd have just stopped with answering the OP. The Swedish cops in the OP are carrying Sig pistols and AR's. Maybe somebody could chime in with the exact brand of rifle and it's furniture if anybody cared. Then the thread could be closed.

 

[Merle1]

yeah but that would mean I would have to buy it on my own. . Most our sherrifs and pd's ran around with highpoints carbines or Vietnam m16.

Your law enforcement actually issued Hi Point carbines?

 

[grampajack]

Well i don't speak American English. I speak real English because thats where i come from. Every major advancement of the 20th century from the USA, Your having a laugh matey.
Best Music in the 60's came from the UK. American TV, Leave it out. Downton Abbey was pure English. Never read such a load of Old Cock and bull in all my life..
As i live in Sweden,another great country for technology plus not forgetting the music of Abba.We can own rifles shotguns .pistols and i believe at least a thousand machine guns in private hands. A country of 10 million people that produces it own fighter air planes. So while have enjoyed the US when i have visited it,s not all that.

Actually you speak a molested form of English concocted by British socialites in the 1800s. Americans and Canadians speak the "real English." That's why American English is now the standard taught all over the world, especially in business schools, and why American English is preferred in the international job market. And why your prized BBC English sounds only faintly British, because true British accents are too difficult to understand via broadcasts.

Let's see, things invented, discovered, or developed by Americans in the 20th century....

Airplanes, nuclear power, DNA, space travel, GPS, the internet...and that's just the stuff I can think of off the top of my head. You're sitting there typing on a computer invented by Americans, with an operating system invented by Americans, sending messages across the world with a system developed by the American government.

Let's see, we then saved the world from the Germans twice, single handedly bailed Europe out after WWII, formed the UN, and defeated communism. But no, you're right, we haven't done or accomplished anything that makes us exceptional. It's all in our heads. And our personal liberty definitely didn't have anything to do with why so many great minds developed here.

By all means, please tell me more about Downton Abbey (whatever that is) and Abba.

 

[Sarge7402]

Weapons[edit]
The standard equipment for Swedish police officers includes a handgun, which officers are required to carry whenever they are on duty in areas where the public has access, beside when they are on patrol or guard duty.[106] The current service pistol is a SIG Sauer of various models chambered for the 9×19mm Parabellum (e.g. the P225, P226 and P228).[107][108]Speer Gold Dot hollow point bullets have been the standard issue since 2003.[109] In 2012, new regulations were introduced forbidding officers from carrying with a round in the chamber, to reduce the risk of operator error and accidental firearms discharge in a dangerous situation.[110] Police officers also routinely carry expandable batons and pepper spray.[111][112][113]Officers may also, in addition, be assigned the Heckler & Koch MP5 submachine gun under special circumstances or in a particularly dangerous situation.[114][106] The Swedish police are also allowed, yet rarely use, tear gas against individuals or in crowd control situations.[115][116][117] The National Task Force and Piketen also have the Heckler & Koch G36 assault rifle, shotguns and stun grenades in their armoury.[117][118] The National Task Force is the only unit within the Swedish police allowed to use sniper rifles.[119] In 2013, members of the task force were pictured with a Sako TRG M10 rifle, on a rooftop overlooking the arrival of U.S. President Barack Obama to the Stockholm airport.[120]

 

[RPRNY]

Weapons[edit]
...In 2012, new regulations were introduced forbidding officers from carrying with a round in the chamber, to reduce the risk of operator error and accidental firearms discharge in a dangerous situation.[110]

This was helpful. There was another thread recently about a Swedish cop show and the OP was asking whether it was possible that, as in the show where cops were depicted racking the slide on their (we now know, thanks) Sig pistols whenever they drew the firearms, the Swedish police carried them with an empty chamber. You answered the question. Well done.

 

[Acera]

You answered the question. Well done.

Except that he did not. None of the rifles in that post are being carried by the officers. They are obviously not H&K G36 or MP5s.

I will stick by my original statement of them being Diemacos. But admit they could be the newer LWRC rifles the Swedes purchased.


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[RPRNY]

Except that he did not. None of the rifles in that post are being carried by the officers. They are obviously not H&K G36 or MP5s.

I will stick by my original statement of them being Diemacos. But admit they could be the newer LWRC rifles the Swedes purchased.

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You need to read my post that you quoted. I have no idea what you are on about.

There was another thread about a Swedish cop show on TV. He answered that question. Which was about pistols. In another thread. And nothing to do with rifles...

 

[grampajack]

Except that he did not. None of the rifles in that post are being carried by the officers. They are obviously not H&K G36 or MP5s.

I will stick by my original statement of them being Diemacos. But admit they could be the newer LWRC rifles the Swedes purchased.


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When did Diemaco ever produce anything that looked even remotely like that? The only ones I've ever seen look like standard M4 carbines. As far as I'm aware, LWRC is the only one using that style of upper receiver/handguard.

 

[Acera]

When did Diemaco ever produce anything that looked even remotely like that? The only ones I've ever seen look like standard M4 carbines. As far as I'm aware, LWRC is the only one using that style of upper receiver/handguard.

The C8.

Handguards and stocks can get replaced pretty easily.


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