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Taking a bullet for dairy goods

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Tall Man, Jul 6, 2004.

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  1. Tall Man

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    http://tennessean.com/local/archives/04/06/53624868.shtml?Element_ID=53624868

    Friday, 07/02/04
    State trooper says she shot brother in fight over butter

    By CHRISTIAN BOTTORFF
    Staff Writer

    A Tennessee state trooper told Metro police she accidentally shot her brother in the leg during an argument that started over a tub of butter.

    Angelinette L. Crawford, 31, a state trooper since April, told police the argument began about 10 a.m. yesterday when she realized that her brother, Jaison Bilbrew, 19, had lent the butter to a neighbor.

    Bilbrew had come back to the Antioch apartment he shares with Crawford and her young son, and Crawford told him ''it was time for him to leave and find another residence,'' Metro police said in a news release.

    ''Their verbal argument turned into a shoving match at the top of the stairs,'' police said.

    A message left for Crawford at the apartment was not returned.

    Crawford went to her bedroom and got her service weapon, a .357 Glock semiautomatic pistol, according to police and the state Department of Safety.

    The argument continued, then Bilbrew grabbed Crawford's arm and they wrestled on the floor. Bilbrew got up, and as Crawford was getting up, the gun discharged accidentally, according to Crawford, police said. The shooting occurred about 10:30 a.m. at the Hickory Manor apartments in the 2900 block of Hamilton Church Road.

    Bilbrew was treated and released at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. The two had lived at the apartment for just over a year, police and neighbors said.

    Metro detectives interviewed Crawford and forwarded the case to the Davidson County district attorney's office. They did not charge Crawford with a crime.

    District Attorney General Torry Johnson said yesterday that his office would review the case file and determine whether Crawford's action broke any laws.

    Johnson said victims' statements sometimes factor into such decisions. However, when there is domestic violence, prosecutors do try to pursue charges even if a victim does not want charges to be filed, Johnson said.

    ''At this point, I think we simply need to look at the police investigation,'' Johnson said. ''It's hard to comment until we know what's there.''

    The official story about the shooting changed throughout the day. Soon after the shooting, police spokesman Don Aaron said Bilbrew ''jumped on'' the off-duty trooper, causing a bruise on her face. Police at first said Crawford appeared to have been defending herself when she shot Bilbrew.

    Later yesterday, however, police said the shooting took place during the intense argument.

    The state Department of Safety declined to provide a picture of Crawford. Beth Denton, spokeswoman for the Tennessee Department of Safety, said the department does not have a photograph of Crawford.

    Crawford was placed on administrative leave with pay yesterday.

    Christian Bottorff can be reached at 726-8904 or cbottorff@tennessean.com.
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    "Metro detectives interviewed Crawford and forwarded the case to the Davidson County district attorney's office. They did not charge Crawford with a crime." Of course not!

    TM
     
  2. El Tejon

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    Apparently in Tennessee, even without a state income tax, you can have guns and butter!:D

    Whenever I got into an argument with my brother, first thing I did is run and get my gun.:rolleyes:
     
  3. dev_null

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    > A Tennessee state trooper told Metro police she accidentally shot her brother in the leg during an argument that started over a tub of butter.

    Were they married? :evil:

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  4. hso

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    dev_nul,

    Not in Nashville, closest there is cousins. Now if it were in SE KY or WV...:evil:



    El T - started Espada Y Daga and man am I confused!
     
  5. Devonai

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    If I was the editor of this newspaper, that article never would have gone to print as-is.

    Incorrect! The argument was about the trooper's decision to ask the brother to move out of the apartment. Loaning the butter to a neighbor was probably the last straw in a long history of the brother's inconsiderate and/or inappropriate behavior. The trooper had most likely already considered asking her brother to move out, for whatever grievances, long before this incident. When the brother loaned out the butter, the trooper's property purchased with her money, it was the latest example of why he was becoming increasingly unwelcome in her home.

    It doesn't sound like the trooper acted appropriately when she armed herself, but it may come to light that the brother was presenting a legitimate threat.

    Note to Mister Bottorff: If you're going to be sensationalist in your journalism, make sure the spin in your writing style isn't so apparent!
     
  6. Justin

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    But...but the po-po have way more firearms training than any of us mere mortals! There's no way a cop would ever misuse a firearm, unlike us lowly peons who don't go to the range twice a week to shoot. Sarah Brady told me so!
     
  7. Majic

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    Well who is telling the truth here? :scrutiny:
     
  8. sturmruger

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    I could see fighting over some steaks, or maybe a couple pounds of burger. I would like to raise the point that this does not even sound like real butter.
    Now part of this is because I reside in the dairy state, but I really get sick of people referring to anything that you spread on toast as butter. They even have supposed spray on butter. Here in WI we call that stuff what it really is "Margarine". Butter comes from cows, margarine is made from soy beans or corn whatever they are getting the oil from now days. Bottom line is they fought over margarine, what a waste!! Now if it was some nice creamy real butter then maybe I would think it was worth arguing over.
     
  9. Pilgrim

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    Regardless of whether it was butter or margarine, law enforcement management takes a dim view of their officers solving family disputes with their issue firearm. Seeing that she has been a trooper since April, she undoubtedly is still a probationary employee. I doubt she has much of a future with the Tennessee State Police.

    Pilgrim
     
  10. Diggler

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    Fighting over butter... I've heard it all now! Usually people fight over (and in) jello, mud, oil... but never butter.

    I'll have pay more attention to the beer commercials from now on.
     
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    Margarine's not worth fighting over... as the French would say, "C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre!"

    :neener: :p :D
     
  12. dev_null

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    *groan*

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    I thought we normal folks called shooting someone during an argument "assault with a deadly weapon" (or assault with intent to cause grievous bodily harm) and pulling out a firearm during an argument "brandishing". I'll be dad-gummed, they put her on "administrative leave with pay".

    Pardon me, I'm gonna go dip myself in ice, so my blood will quit boiling.

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    Aside from the obvious idiocies of this story... How can the Dept of "Safety" NOT have a freaking picture of one of their state troopers?!?!? :banghead:

    Now... if they choose not to release it: fine. That's another story.





    Yep... those eeee-vil Glocks that go off accidentally all of the time. Could it be that she had her finger on the trigger...? :rolleyes:
     
  15. Iron Mike

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    Guns and butter

    Could be he tried to get the gun from her but he couldn't get a grip because of the butter
     
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    SturmRuger, I think you're going a bit overboard when it comes to Dairy Pride week. Even margarine isn't worth shooting someone over. Stabbing, maybe, but not shooting.

    Now if this was over a nice hunk of Gouda cheese, well, that would be a different matter.
     
  17. R.H. Lee

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    Bad cop! You used your only bullet and will have to wait until next year to get another one.

    Why do these things always happen in the South?
     
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    Bad Glock! Bad, bad Glock!
     
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    In tha south you say?? Well one thing to consider about THIS part of the south...I can walk into a gunshop wearing a Kilt and playing bagpipes and order an AR15!! can you "enlightened" in Ca do that?? :neener:



    I gotta confess something guys...I have a "friend" that stabbed a guy in the arm for reaching for his chicken nuggets once..<~~NOT the McDonalds crap that passes for chicken..So I GUESS it is a step above margerine:D
     
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    azrael

    So, your friend just 'winged' him?
     
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    Can you imagine that conversation? Jaison!...Where the hell is the damn butter! Oh, I lent it to the people next door, any way it was margarine not butter. Margarine my a$$, Wait till I get my Glock.... Unless you lent them that to!
     
  23. R.H. Lee

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    BWAHAHAHAAAA! Hey, two outta three ain't bad. On second thought most places have a noise ordnance so that leaves.........

    ........never mind:eek:
     
  24. azrael

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    Riley,
    I started to put in "walk into a gunshop wearing bunny slippers wearing a kilt"!...But I have DONE the bunny slippers thing at the range:neener:





    BTW...The Chronicles of Riddick OWNSSSSS!!!!!!<~~yea we gots TV MOVIES as well in the south..:D
     
  25. Don Gwinn

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    Uh. . . . I'm pretty sure I could buy a gun in a kilt, too. What in the world is that all about? :scrutiny:
     
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