Taurus handguns
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all of the taurus handguns i have shot i would say were great. no problems with perfectly satisfactory accuracy. i voted "ok" though because, although i have never had a problem, i have heard enough reports of spotty quality and poor customer service that i would be a little hesitant to buy one.
QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
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my pt1911 has been perfect until i decided to have a trigger job done with a STI trigger and wilson combat skeleton hammer. now its perfection and pretty
exavid
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My Taurus experience (lengthy)
Within the past year I purchased three new Taurus pistols, a TCP .380, a 740 Slim .40S&W and a 24/7 PRO .45 DS. All three were very good shooting, good triggers, accurate, easy to strip and clean, all three had good ergonomics and easily handled recoil. So far so good.
My TCP had a kaboom. The slide separated at the ejection port into two pieces. The portion ahead of the port flew off forward and the rear part hit a friend whom I'd let fire the pistol in the jaw cracking a tooth. The pistol had fired approximately 400 rounds of Wally World white box Winchester ammo. Examination of the shell that was fired in the accident didn't show anything abnormal. I sent it to Taurus and eventually accepted a 740 Slim in it's place because I didn't feel comfortable with the 740 though I really feel it was a fluke and not likely to happen to another TCP.
The 740 Slim is an excellent pistol, compact, very good sights, good trigger and very accurate. Recoil in such a compact handgun is very reasonable. I shot approximately 500 rounds through this pistol then had a problem with the recoil spring assembly. There's a little flange on the end of the thicker part of the rod that partially broke off allowing the end of the recoil spring to jump over the end of the middle of the assembly not allowing the pistol to be racked fully back. A new recoil spring from Taurus was received promptly after contacting the company and the 740 is back in action.
The 24/7 .45 at first seemed like a very good gun, recoil was light, accuracy was good and the ergonomics very good. The magazine held 12rds which was another bonus. Unfortunately after about 150 rounds fired through the pistol the rounds in the magazine tended to take a nose dive and jam nose downward instead of feeding into the breech. The load ramp had been factory polished to a mirror finish but there was a mismatch between the frame just under the lower end of the feed ramp that caught round nose bullets and jammed them about twice per magazine. I read on the Taurus forum of another 24/7 that had the same problem and was corrected by Taurus exchanging the pistol with another new one.
I opted to trade mine in on a Ruger P345 which I like much better.
So far the 740 is performing well and it's my second favorite carry gun. I have a spare spring assembly just in case but actually think the problem was a uncommon problem because no one has reported this kind of failure on the 709-740 models on any forums I can find. I hope this one continues to work as well as it is now because I don't think you can find a .40S&W in such a slim and compact package. Very easily concealed for carrying.
My opinion on Taurus is that they actually design good firearms but have some serious quality control problems. If one is lucky and gets a good one it will function well and be very reliable. Taurus was good to me in correcting what is necessary to make it work right. Several people on the forums have had guns replaced at no chagethat operated as they should. The downside is the time lost shuttling guns back and forth. Taurus would be ahead of the game if they spent a little more on quality control and testing even if they had to raise prices a bit.
Within the past year I purchased three new Taurus pistols, a TCP .380, a 740 Slim .40S&W and a 24/7 PRO .45 DS. All three were very good shooting, good triggers, accurate, easy to strip and clean, all three had good ergonomics and easily handled recoil. So far so good.
My TCP had a kaboom. The slide separated at the ejection port into two pieces. The portion ahead of the port flew off forward and the rear part hit a friend whom I'd let fire the pistol in the jaw cracking a tooth. The pistol had fired approximately 400 rounds of Wally World white box Winchester ammo. Examination of the shell that was fired in the accident didn't show anything abnormal. I sent it to Taurus and eventually accepted a 740 Slim in it's place because I didn't feel comfortable with the 740 though I really feel it was a fluke and not likely to happen to another TCP.
The 740 Slim is an excellent pistol, compact, very good sights, good trigger and very accurate. Recoil in such a compact handgun is very reasonable. I shot approximately 500 rounds through this pistol then had a problem with the recoil spring assembly. There's a little flange on the end of the thicker part of the rod that partially broke off allowing the end of the recoil spring to jump over the end of the middle of the assembly not allowing the pistol to be racked fully back. A new recoil spring from Taurus was received promptly after contacting the company and the 740 is back in action.
The 24/7 .45 at first seemed like a very good gun, recoil was light, accuracy was good and the ergonomics very good. The magazine held 12rds which was another bonus. Unfortunately after about 150 rounds fired through the pistol the rounds in the magazine tended to take a nose dive and jam nose downward instead of feeding into the breech. The load ramp had been factory polished to a mirror finish but there was a mismatch between the frame just under the lower end of the feed ramp that caught round nose bullets and jammed them about twice per magazine. I read on the Taurus forum of another 24/7 that had the same problem and was corrected by Taurus exchanging the pistol with another new one.
I opted to trade mine in on a Ruger P345 which I like much better.
So far the 740 is performing well and it's my second favorite carry gun. I have a spare spring assembly just in case but actually think the problem was a uncommon problem because no one has reported this kind of failure on the 709-740 models on any forums I can find. I hope this one continues to work as well as it is now because I don't think you can find a .40S&W in such a slim and compact package. Very easily concealed for carrying.
My opinion on Taurus is that they actually design good firearms but have some serious quality control problems. If one is lucky and gets a good one it will function well and be very reliable. Taurus was good to me in correcting what is necessary to make it work right. Several people on the forums have had guns replaced at no chagethat operated as they should. The downside is the time lost shuttling guns back and forth. Taurus would be ahead of the game if they spent a little more on quality control and testing even if they had to raise prices a bit.
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MachIVshooter
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They're not the worst out there, but by and large cost considerably more than they're worth.
Nushif
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Have a PT911 and a PT92 ... Had a PT145 by proxy and a 905 for a while too.
And every single last one of them has been trouble free and functioned perfectly.
And every single last one of them has been trouble free and functioned perfectly.
I've got a Model 85. I don't see why there's so much hatred for these things. The only issue I've had is the screw holding the cylinder release lever backed out a bit after repeated trips to the range. So I put a tiny bit of Loctite 242 (blue) on that screw. Problem solved.
BigN
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I had no experience with Taurus until I actually bought one this year. I won't buy another. After 2 trips back to the factory, you can depend on it firing at least 3 rounds before it locks up. Lesson learned, get what you pay for. Next time I'll kick in a few extra bucks and buy quality. I take it to the range to play with but I wouldn't depend on it firing when you need it to.
weregunner
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I own 17 Taurus revolvers and at least 8 Taurus pistols. I also own Beretta, Springfield, Ruger, and SIG products.
All of these give sterling service. No problems here.
All my Tauri are durable and reliable.
I've notice that those who do not own Taurus anything are the chronic complainers. Add to that anecdotal evidence with little or no details posts, but the whinging goes on and on and on and on....
There is also the "anointed ones" who know all,see all, and consider themselves above everyone else. The actual owners' results don't count and THEY are what count. It's more about them than the subject.
The actual owners' mental state is disparaged and called into question. No need for it.
I've seen it documented at many of the gun forums and here.
Yes, there are going to a few that get by QC. That's true for any gun maker.
S&W seems to be having some troubles with the new 290 of sorts. Not dumping on S&W as they make class products. To me so does Taurus.
One bad actual variant does not broad brush stroke a whole brand,make, or model.
If one had many supposed bad Tauri why did the person who bought them not do actual gun checks for handguns that we all should do prior to buying? That for a majority of the so called problems. Goes for some of the one time purchase people as well.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/taurus-complaints/1792-taurus-accomplishments.html
They work for me.
All of these give sterling service. No problems here.
All my Tauri are durable and reliable.
I've notice that those who do not own Taurus anything are the chronic complainers. Add to that anecdotal evidence with little or no details posts, but the whinging goes on and on and on and on....
There is also the "anointed ones" who know all,see all, and consider themselves above everyone else. The actual owners' results don't count and THEY are what count. It's more about them than the subject.
The actual owners' mental state is disparaged and called into question. No need for it.
I've seen it documented at many of the gun forums and here.
Yes, there are going to a few that get by QC. That's true for any gun maker.
S&W seems to be having some troubles with the new 290 of sorts. Not dumping on S&W as they make class products. To me so does Taurus.
One bad actual variant does not broad brush stroke a whole brand,make, or model.
If one had many supposed bad Tauri why did the person who bought them not do actual gun checks for handguns that we all should do prior to buying? That for a majority of the so called problems. Goes for some of the one time purchase people as well.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/taurus-complaints/1792-taurus-accomplishments.html
They work for me.
weregunner
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Oh,yes. Welcome to the forum.
ojibweindian
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They're okay, for the most part. Owned a 608 that was pretty good; wish I still had that one. Also had a PT92 that was okay.
If I could find another blued 608 with a 6.5" barrel, I'd gladly trade one of my XD9's for it.
MMCSRET
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Have several in my possession, several thousand hand loads thru each, never a problem. Accurate, reliable, and attractive in appearance and price. I like'm; alot!!!!!!!!
3KillerBs
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I love my 709 Slim, but honestly would have chosen the Ruger LC9 if it had come out at the same time. Both Tauruses and Rugers fit well in my hand and I'm not afraid of Taurus quality but I think more highly of the Ruger name.
oldfool
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cannot vole.. other than all of the above
true of most "brands", truer of Taurus than most
some great, some ok, some bad, some pert-near horrible
I honestly believe you will get far more meaningful recommendations if asking about very specific model/caliber/vintage.. it tends to vary over time you know, true of any/all brands
Absent such specifics, I really do not see how or why anyone should take such a poll seriously... sounds a lot more like just an invitation to a heated argument, aka.....
"those who do not own Taurus anything are the chronic complainers."
plainly a FALSE statement; beware the woobie bear
"why did the person who bought them not do actual gun checks for handguns that we all should do prior to buying?"
AGREED
(but the reason why many ask others on gun forums for opinions is that a on-the-glass counter inspection goes just so far - ultimately, if you haven't actually run the gun, there is just so much hedging of your bet that you can do at the retail LGS, much less the ever more common on-line buy.. and asking opinions on forums IS one of the "actual checks" many prudent buyers often do)
forum woobie bears come in all brand flavors, true
but it still beats flying deaf, dumb, and blind
true of most "brands", truer of Taurus than most
some great, some ok, some bad, some pert-near horrible
I honestly believe you will get far more meaningful recommendations if asking about very specific model/caliber/vintage.. it tends to vary over time you know, true of any/all brands
Absent such specifics, I really do not see how or why anyone should take such a poll seriously... sounds a lot more like just an invitation to a heated argument, aka.....
"those who do not own Taurus anything are the chronic complainers."
plainly a FALSE statement; beware the woobie bear
"why did the person who bought them not do actual gun checks for handguns that we all should do prior to buying?"
AGREED
(but the reason why many ask others on gun forums for opinions is that a on-the-glass counter inspection goes just so far - ultimately, if you haven't actually run the gun, there is just so much hedging of your bet that you can do at the retail LGS, much less the ever more common on-line buy.. and asking opinions on forums IS one of the "actual checks" many prudent buyers often do)
forum woobie bears come in all brand flavors, true
but it still beats flying deaf, dumb, and blind
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I have a 709 and a 24/7 DS Pro C .45. Both have been perfect so far, and I see no issues with the general workmanship. I do thoroughly strip and clean the gun AND all magazines when they're NIB, they seem to have a lot of thick preservative inside them. The molding quality on the magazine followers is iffy too, there's usually a pretty rough parting line around the follower that I hit with a file.
DeepSouth
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I think it depends a lot on which model you get.
I have shot several, and know many people who own them. Some love them, some hate them. Of the ones I've shot some were okay and some felt like a toy, none were what I would call high quality, I have never bought one so I didn't vote.
I have shot several, and know many people who own them. Some love them, some hate them. Of the ones I've shot some were okay and some felt like a toy, none were what I would call high quality, I have never bought one so I didn't vote.
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I've had two Taurus handguns fail, a Taurus Tracker 357 mag using factory loads, cracked forcing cone and a Taurus PT-140 Pro that sheared off the disassembly pin, don't know how. I won't buy any more Taurus handguns.
I also had a Tracker .357 and also a PT140.
The Tracker locked up twice while loaded and had to be sent back. Barrel was machined out of center on the gun. Threw that darn gun in the lake. No joke. I would not offer it to anyone and feel right about it.
The PT140 shot ok but was a POS. Read sight spun around, would not stay in place, and I was still pissed at the Tracker. Sold that to a friend that wanted it for $50.00. He had problems with it also but I lost track of him and the gun over the years.
I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER buy/recommend Taurus products to ANYONE. There are to many better manufacturers out there. Lately I have been impressed by FN Herstal's quaility and affordability.
Fooon
The Tracker locked up twice while loaded and had to be sent back. Barrel was machined out of center on the gun. Threw that darn gun in the lake. No joke. I would not offer it to anyone and feel right about it.
The PT140 shot ok but was a POS. Read sight spun around, would not stay in place, and I was still pissed at the Tracker. Sold that to a friend that wanted it for $50.00. He had problems with it also but I lost track of him and the gun over the years.
I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER buy/recommend Taurus products to ANYONE. There are to many better manufacturers out there. Lately I have been impressed by FN Herstal's quaility and affordability.
Fooon
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I have shot many but owned only three in my time. In particular, those three would be A) PT-92 B) PT-25 C) 24/7 OSS Tactical. I am 'apparently' one of the fortunate ones in that I have never had a single problem with any of the aforementioned (nor with either the range guns I rent or my friends guns). What I like about them for me is that I get good quality guns absent breaking the bank which at this point in time is critical.
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MMCSRET
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I've traded away more handguns of other brands than I've had Taurus problems because of the same kind of problems that people claim Taurus is so guilty of. S&W has been much more of a problem for me, but I still buy a S&W from time to time, altho I've never owned a new Smiff.
PT92
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Very well put. There will be a lemon produced in every lot of everything made everywhere in the world, be it guns, cars, appliances etc. What escapes me and what you mention as well is does that simple fact mean that all Taurus, S&W, Ford, GE etc. products are bad because I or someone I know had a bad apple? Bottom line for me, there should be no all-inclusive categorical statements that an entire line of anything is good or bad.
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exavid
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I agree that Taurus makes some pretty good guns. I've used several of their pistols and revolvers and have a couple. The only fault I have with them is that they need to improve their quality control. You don't hear so many complaints about Ruger for instance. Yes, they have problems too but not as many. My dealings with Taurus concerning difficulties with their products has been good, they've corrected whatever needed to be corrected in reasonable time. I don't know why some complain about their customer service but since there are considerable numbers complaining they should take a look at why some like me have a good experience dealing with the company and some don't. Perhaps it's just folks griping.
All firearm companies have problem guns, it's just the impression that Taurus has more than the others that needs fixed. A bit more testing on their part before shipping might reduce this and improve their image a lot. A good series of test firing wouldn't add all that much to the final price and if it caught problem guns so they could be fixed before shipping it would do a lot to improve their company image.
All firearm companies have problem guns, it's just the impression that Taurus has more than the others that needs fixed. A bit more testing on their part before shipping might reduce this and improve their image a lot. A good series of test firing wouldn't add all that much to the final price and if it caught problem guns so they could be fixed before shipping it would do a lot to improve their company image.
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