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Taurus Millennium Pro owners?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by DRMMR02, Nov 20, 2006.

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  1. DRMMR02

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    What are your thoughts on this gun? Specifically the 9mm version with a DA/SA trigger.
     
  2. wally

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    I think Taurus refers to it as SA/DA to distinguish it from the traditional hammer drop DA first shot, SA followup guns since its always SA unless the primer fails to go, then it reverts to DA. Dubious feature as tap-rack-back should be the proper response if you get click instead of bang.

    I have one in .40S&W, like it, basically I think its a very good gun for the money and perhaps the best value on the market in sub-compacts. I carry it when I know I'm going to have to leave the gun in the car at some point of my rounds. Only two complaints are I think rails on sub-compacts are just plain goofy and only make a limited holster selection much more so; and I wish the safety was ambidexterious, if you think the Glock is safe to carry then this gun doesn't need an external safety either, but since it has one, IMHO it should be ambi. Others might think the external safety should be a decocker instead, but I hate DA/SA operation.

    --wally.

    Edit: I should mention that not all have the rails, mine doesn't, but most of the new PT-145s I've seen lately do so it may be finding its way to new production :(
     
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  3. camacho

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    I've got the 9mm and love it. Shoots beutifully, has never jammed with all the different ammo I fed it with. Before I bought it, it was a toss up between the Mill Pro and the XD. The Taurus just felt much more natural in my hand and I bought it over the XD.

    It is a great gun which will not break the bank!
     
  4. donba27

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    The PT145 is awesome.

    Just bought it and have only been to the range once. We shot at 25 yards which is pretty far for a 3" barrel and we all stayed on paper. The recoil on the molded polymer frame is so much different than the all metal frame. A friend of mine had an all steel 9mm makarov which is between a .380 and a regular 9mm. It shoots a 110 grain bullet and after a few shots I could feel discomfort in the arch of my hand. We fired both my pt145 and beretta PX4 Storm in .40 S &W. The Beretta .40 S&W had 180 gr FMJ and the .45 had 230 gr FMJ. Both will let you know you just shot a pretty big bullet, but its a smooth recoil. There is no shock to your hand or wrist. When my wife tried the .45 she really enjoyed it. Even though its twice the 9MM it has a lot more comfortable recoil than the all steel 9mm mak.

    I used the old colt Gold cup in the army which is quite a bit larger and heavier than the Taurus, and had about 25% more recoil than the Taurus with a lot of shock and discomfort to the hand and wrist.

    I love both my Beretta and my Taurus, wouldn't trade them for any on the market. The PT145 is easy to conceal, shoots great and is a steal for the price.
     
  5. CZ-100

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    I purchaed a Taurus Mil Pro PT145SS a couple of weeks ago and I finally made it to the range Sat.!

    I put 200 rds of WWB 230 gr FMJ and 40 rds of Federal Personal Protection 230 gr JHP thru it with NO problems, All fed, fired and ejected fine.

    Recoil was less than expected, pistol fit my hand great, I really like it, It's a Keeper.
     
  6. MrTuffPaws

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    Mil Pro PT145 owner here. The old school DAO trigger too. Have shot around 600rnds through the gun with only one FTFire. Bad primer.

    The gun is a pleasure to shoot and does excellent for the drills I practice. 10 to 3 yard CoM double taps with a head follow up. The gun is big enough to make handling the recoil a no sweat deal.

    The 9mm version is just a tad smaller in the grip, so you should expect the same as my PT145, Enjoyment.
     
  7. jfan

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    I've had the PT111pro (DAO, no rails) for about 6 months now. No burps of any kind, about 750-1000 rounds through it. It fits my smallish hand perfectly, and it's my everyday carry gun. I either pocket carry with a Mika pocket holster or IWB if the pocket in the particular pants I'm wearing is small. I also was considering an XD but chose the Taurus because of the fit. I was able to buy a holster and 2 extra mags with the money I saved.

    I'm a lefty, and I also wish the safety was ambi. I've become pretty adept at flicking the safety off just before unholstering. It's a DAO, and my holsters cover the trigger, but something about the extra security of the safety tells me to keep it engaged while carrying.

    I've not seen very many negatives posted about the Milpros. The non-pro versions definitely had some nay-sayers.
     
  8. Redneck with a 40

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    Taurus Mil-Pro

    I've got a taurus mil-pro 40 that I've owned since January '06. This gun was an impluse buy on a whim, I had a trade and went looking for a new gun. Boy do I NOT regret that decision, this gun is awesome!! It fits my hand great, points naturally, has been 100% reliable after 1000 rounds, and it manages the recoil of the 40 round great. I'll second the positive statements made about these guns in the above post's, I love mine. For the money, these are the best bang for the buck out there, IMHO.:D I also own an XD 40 and its a toss up as to which is the better gun, the Mil-Pro is almost as accurate as the XD from 20 yards. Taurus has a real winner with these guns.

    The only disadvantage to this gun.....the magazines are $35 apeice.
     
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  9. Cornbread

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    3rd generation Pt111

    I have the 3rd generation PT111 Pro. I have been to the range once with it. I didn't have any problems with cycling. I thought the trigger was very smooth and recoil was comfortable. I was shooting at a 15 yard target. All shots landed on 1 foot by 1 foot target.

    I am having a small problem finding a holster for it. Any that were designed for the 1st and 2nd generation Pt111 don't fit the 3rd.

    I am happy with the purchase.

    Cornbread
     
  10. bb21

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    PT-111

    I have just recently purchased the new DA/SA Mil Pro, mine has fired 200 rds of WWB no failures, and just over a hundred rounds of JHP hand loads with no failures. I compared it with the Kel Tec P11, but I just felt the Mil Pro was much more gun for the money. the fit in the hand is better than any other SC, IMHO. The trigger is great and it shoots better than I can. My only gripe is the Straight Eight sights, at the indoor range on black targets it can be a little hard to be perfectly aligned. I would agree with the others, for the money it is hard to beat the new Mil Pro's in any caliber. And unlike the Kel Tec you don't need a trigger job or the feed ramp polished. You could look into the XD or a used Glock but you will still more than likely pay more than the Mil Pro. Good Luck and Be Safe!
     
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  11. patriarch 2

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    PT 145 MIL, PT111 MIL PRO

    I LIKE THE PT 145 SS MILLENIUM. NOT AMMO SPECIFIC, IS ACCURATE ENUF FOR CARRY BUT HAD ONE FAILURE. AFTER ABOUT 130 RDS THE TRIGGER FAILED TO GO FULLY FWD. AFTER NUDGING FROM BEHIND IT WOULD FIRE, EJECT, RELOAD NORMALLY. OFF TO FLA FOR REPAIR. PERFORMS NORMALLY NOW. TAURUS DOES NOT COMMUNICATE, JUST SHIPPED THE GUN BACK W/O NOTICE BUT DID INCLUDE PARTS REPLACED LIST INDICATING THEY CHANGED OUT EVERYTHING BENEATH THE SLIDER. DURING 7 WK WAIT I BOUGHT A PT111. IT'S O.K. BUT WILL SELL OR TRADE IT OFF AS I JUST DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT WITH 9MM AS A SELF DEFENSE GUN. EVERYONE SHOULD READ AYOOB FILES, HANDGUNNER JAN/FEB 2K7. FOUR .40 MM 180 GR HYDROSHOKS INTO THE BOILER ROOM AT ABOUT 4 FEET DID NOT STOP ATTACKER FROM TRYING TO KNIFE HIS VICTIM. TWO MORE IN THE SAME UPPER CHEST AREA FINALLY TERMINATED THE THREAT. THE SHOOTER/SHERIFF HOPES HIS DEPARTMENT PROVIDES .45'S IN THE FUTURE.
    PATRIARCH 2
     
  12. Redneck with a 40

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    That Ayoob article runs counter to everything I've read about 40 S&W ammo, its got a proven track record on the street. The ammo has only gotten better recently with the addition of 135-165 grain loads. The US Border Patrol uses the 155 grain Golden Sabres and they have experienced awesome performance. I personally use 155 grain Winchester Ranger's at 1205 fps with 502 ft lbs energy, I tested these in water jugs and the expansion was awesome. Just for the record, the 40 S&W has a one shot stop record of 96%, the 45 ACP is at 93%. When it comes to barrier penetration such as auto glass, the 40 S&W 155 and 165 grain loads are superior to the 45 due to the extra velocity, about 200-300 fps faster.:p

    If those thugs were doped up drugs, then even a 45 would have been unlikely to stop them with just one shot.
     
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    I've had my Taurus PT140 Milennium Pro (the DAO version) for just over a year and a half now. I love it. It feels good in my hand, is comfortable to shoot (the 9mm should be even more comfortable when shot- you can probably shoot it all day, something you can't say about all small CCW pistols), it seems very well made, it is accurate and it is reliable. If they stuck with the DAO I'd definately buy another but in 9mm, however I'm not sure I like the idea of having two of the same gun with two different manuals of arms.
     
  14. captainmorgan

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    I'm thinking about buying the PT140. Is there an advantage of getting either the DA/SA or DAO?
     
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    Another PT145 owner

    Love mine. Flawless performance, excellent feel, good accuracy. This gun is by far the best buy I have ever found on a handgun.
     
  16. Redneck with a 40

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    I prefer the DAO version, same trigger pull for every shot, plus a restrike capability on a dud primer ( happened to me last saturday at the range). I pulled the trigger again and the round went off. The trigger is a little stiff and gritty when the gun is new, but after 500 rounds, mine really smoothed out. Plus I feel that the DAO is safer to carry, even with the safety off. I don't like going from a single action first shot to double action on subsequent shots, trigger pull changes.
     
  17. TC-TX

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    I have 3 of the New SA/DA models... Bought them together as a Package Deal:

    PT-111, PT-140, PT-745... I LOVE 'EM!!!

    - No Rails
    - Same trigger pull for every shot
    - Re-strike capability on a dud primer
    - SMOOOOOOOTH trigger
    - No Ambi (thank goodness - I HATE Ambi's - they get in the way ;-)
    - All Shoot to POA out to 15 yds (not checked beyond that)
    - NO FTF, NO FTE, NO FT-anything-at-all
    - Lightweight
    - Great Capacity

    and best of all... WELL UNDER $300 for each!
     
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  18. patriarch 2

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    MIL PRO PT 145 FURTHER

    HAVING STATED I HAVE BOTH THE MILLENIUM PT 145 AND THE MILLENIUM PRO PT 111 WANTED TO MENTION THE TRIGGER PULL ON THE LATTER IS MUCH BETTER THAN THE PLAIN MILLENIUM AND ABOUT 2 LBS LESS. GIVEN VIRTUALLY THE SAME EXACT SIZE AND WEIGHT EXCEPTING GRIP THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO CARRY THE BIGGER BORE. AS TO A COMMENT ABOUT THE .45 ACP NOT BEING ABLE TO STOP DRUG CRAZED VILLAINS; THAT WAS THE PRECISE REASON THE 1911 CAME INTO BEING (PHILIPPINE MOROS). I AM REMINDED OF THE ARMY LIEUTENANT WHO TOOK TOP MARKMANSHIP HONORS AND WAS STILL ASTONISHED TO SEE HIS SHOTS NOT ONLY STOPPING JAPANESE COMING OVER A SMALL KNOLL BUT ACTUALLY DRIVING SOME OF THEM BACKWARDS. (NEED TO CORRECT MY EARLIER THREAD/S..ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE STATED 40 CAL INSTEAD OF 40 MM)CHEERS
     
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    PT111 Mil Pro

    I have the PT111 about a year old with three dot sights, I have put about 500 rnds of Rem. 115gr.FMJ's and 100 rnds of CorBon DPX's through it and Have had no problems at all with it , It is my every day carry in a IWB Tuck or a Day Planer.
     
  20. DRMMR02

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    You say it's essentially always in SA mode. Does that mean you have to carry cocked and locked like a 1911? Or can you carry hammer-down/safety on and then cock them hammer when you feel like?
     
  21. Redneck with a 40

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    45 is not the end all caliber

    Directed to Patriarch:

    I can recall a story a few years back that I read about in a gun magazine..went something like this. A Texas state trooper was attempting to pull over a renegade 18 wheeler, the trooper and his partner finally cornered the 18 wheeler, driver would not come out, started waving a shotgun around. The troopers opened fire, one with a 45 ACP, the other with a 357 Sig. Four rounds of 45 ACP were unable to incapacitate the perp through the windshield, ONE round of 357 Sig punched through the windshield and ended the threat.

    I'm not bashing the 45, but some people advocate it as being the be all and end all in calibers, I have to raise my BS flag! If the 45 is so great, why was the 40 S&W created and why was it adopted by hundreds of police depts? Its been the most successfull cartridge introduction in modern times. If the 9mm was so great, why was the 357 Sig created? The 357 Sig has superior performance to the 9mm.

    If your trying to make me doubt my choice of 40 S&W caliber as a defense handgun, good luck....aint gonna happen!:p I've done enough research to know that the 40 is a solid performer.

    There will always be failures with any caliber in street scenario's, nothing is perfect. I've read about more than a few failures of the 357 mag 125 grain to stop perps, that doesn't make me doubt its effectiveness.
     
  22. Rotorflyr

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    The Millennium series doesn't have a "hammer", so there is nothing to cock, it's ready to rock and roll when you rack the slide.

    Do you have to carry it with the safety on?..........Nope.

    Should you carry it with the safety on?................Probably :D
     
  23. DRMMR02

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    Does it have a decocker?
     
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    No decocker.
     
  25. Rotorflyr

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    Would be nice if it did though.........:)
     
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