Taurus Millennium Pro owners?

[innerpiece]

nother happy Taurus owner here.
Ive got a PT111MilPro.
I quit counting at 4 thousand flawless rds.. but im somewhere aroound the 6k mark i think now...

super accuratte, great handeling for me, points great too..
Next runner-up is my KahrCW9. price and capacity are the division there tho.

My milpro eats up antthing Ive fed it. my preferrd load is the Winchester SilverTip HP, 147gr for carry, and the 115gr around the house.

cleanest ammo for target shooting is the Blazer 115gr FMJ ime.

ip.

 

[kokapelli]

Mill Pro

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I have the second generation PT 145. Absolutely love it!!!!! My wife shoots it very well as well but she is looking at getting a 9mm. I guess my question is on the new 3rd generation Mill Pro's are they SA\DA or DA\SA? I hear everyone worried about no decocker but that does not bother me. My question is this. Is the first shot single action and all others double action? Or is the first shot double action and the following single? I am still confused on this issue. Any help would be appreciated!!! How does the trigger pull feel compaired to my DA only PT 145?

It is a single action and only goes double action when there is a missfire.

When you rack the slide to chamber a round, the striker is fully cocked.

So it is a SA with a second strike capability.

IMO the third generation has a much better trigger, but again, it is always single action unless you pull the trigger and get a missfire.

 

[freebird]

Mill Pro

Thanks Florida Cracker

 

[freebird]

Mill Pro

Sorry, I did not see the other posts. Thanks to you all!

 

[SSN Vet]

I have the 2nd gen. PT-111 Mil Pro w/ the DAO trigger.....bought it before 3rd gen. came out.

it has been my daily carry piece for 11 months, so that should tell you how I feel about it.

IF you hit a trigger it is in all likeliness going to be hard enough to shoot the DAO trigger as well.

I disagree with this statement. The DAO trigger is long and requires deliberate action.

My question is this: Why not just use the safety? Even the DAO model, like mine, has a very light trigger pull albeit long. I use the safety when there's one in the pipe myself.

Though the DAO pull is much lighter than the DA pull on my revolver....but I wouldn't call it light. I'd guess ~6#. But that being said I agree with this post and chose to carry w/ one in the pipe and the manual safety on.

Why?

I do not strive to maintain a condition of readiness suitable for the O.K. Corral. Nor do I have resources or time to train for such "quick draw" responses. I'm trusting my vigilance to avoid elevated risk situations and my wits to buy me the ~3 seconds I need to safely draw my weapon and toggle off the safety. Maybe someday I'll take up IDPA and feel differently about it, but the way things are today, I consider my chances of having an AD to be greater than than my chances of needing to quick draw and blast an entire gang of armed assailants.

The Mil Pro...whether DAO or SA/DA is a very reliable and safe weapon

 

[BLACK-N-TAN]

I actually got to try the "second strike" deal last weekend when I had a round that wouldn't go, pulled it 4 times and still no go.....my buddy got it to go in his XD after 3 pulls. Pretty cool feature though for a S/A..... but that is the first time I have ever had a bad .45 round. Damn Fichocci

 

[ecureed]

love my PT111 Pro

only 400 rounds through her so far but zero malfs....trigger is awesome, accuracy while not stellar is good, no finish problems, easy and quick to field strip, and in my opinion she's a looker....only complaint I had was the sharp checkering of the grip but my Hogue slip on cured that....needless to say but I'm very happy with my Millenium

 

[Win75]

Pro 145

I have a Pro 45 cal. that goes with me everywhere. Functions with all ammo that I feed it. It does shoot about 3" low at 15 yards but I am told that is because of the way I grip. No problem in a fire fight.

 

[Jkwas]

It does shoot about 3" low at 15 yards but I am told that is because of the way I grip.

My Pt111 has a tendency to shoot low as well at longer ranges. I've found that if I use the pad of my trigger finger instead of the joint, it goes a long way in correcting this. But I agree, at shorter realistic distances, I'm not even using the sight, I'm point shooting anyway.

 

[Stansburypro]

PT-140 lesson being learned....

Bought a brand new PT-140 from my old reliable gun dealer last month.

Took it out to my "back forty" and had an unreal experience....

Out of twenty rounds fired, the magazine fell out fourteen times!!!!!!!!

In order to get any following rounds to fire I had to hold the magazine in place. Mind you, this is a brand new gun.

Took it back to the dealer, who experienced the same phenomenom (?) at his indoor range. He's astute enough to diagnose that the magazine retainer clip/spring was bad.
His armorer was not able to get any parts from Taurus unless the gun was sent back to the factory!

Its been almost four weeks now, and still no ("expletive") gun.

Now, I've owned a dozen or so different models of Taurus pistols and the two most recent ones I've purchased have had problems right out of the box.

If (and when) this gun comes back and it hiccups at all, this gun will become "target practice" for my varmint rifle.
There's no way I'm going to sell this POS to someone who may have to stake their life on it in a self-defense situation.

Come on Taurus International !!....If you can't keep up on your quality control as your production numbers increase, you'll not get any of my future business again.

 

[WeThePeople]

Here are my thoughts:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=279369

 

[MrPeter]

So far in this thread all I have read were complaints about a standard SA gun that also has DA mode, pretty much. How come no one complains about the original CZ75 (non decocker) or most 1911's? This gun was meant to be carried cocked and locked or without one in the chamber, period. If that method of carry is not for you, then don't get it!

If this is the only complaint that people have over the 3rd generation PT145's then I am looking forward even more to owning one.

And as to the rail on this gun, I love it! My Insight X2 will fit on it perfectly

 

[kokapelli]

So far in this thread all I have read were complaints about a standard SA gun that also has DA mode, pretty much. How come no one complains about the original CZ75 (non decocker) or most 1911's? This gun was meant to be carried cocked and locked or without one in the chamber, period. If that method of carry is not for you, then don't get it!

You can lower the hammer to half cock on a 1911 and CZ, but you can not lower the striker on the current PT pistols!

It's a whole different system.

 

[XDKingslayer]

I hate my Mil-Pro. It's so inaccurate it's not funny. The rear site had to be adjusted so far to the right to compensate that the blade actually hangs over the side of the mount. I'm an accurate shooter but this thing is barely minute of pie plate at 10 yards.

It's utterly disgusting.

Considering the problems posted about Taurus taking so long to repair, I'm not sending it back. It will be sold to someone dumb enough to buy it regardless of my warnings of it's innaccuracy.

Fit and finish-wise it was excellent. It had fed and ejected every type of ammo I've thrown at it without a hiccup. It's easy to disassemble and assemble. It cleans up easily. It's easy to conceal and is relatively light.

Other than it's inaccuracy, it's been a dream pistol.

 

[ANVILFIRE]

I had the same problem with the mag falling out. Taurus needs to get a handle on their QC. I have freinds that recommend taurus to me but now I'll spend the extra $200 to $300 for a reliable firearm.

 

[Caimlas]

Happy owner of a Taurus PT111 Pro 2nd Edition. I've shot hundreds (about 1k to 1500 - I didn't keep track past 300 or so) rounds through it without a single failure to feed, fire, or extract (or anything else you might think of causing a failure). It carries pretty well and is quite accurate (accurate enough that I can hit bowling pins consistently at 25 yards - and that's a feat for this shooter).

If I could afford one of hte 3rd series w/ the DA/SA triggers, I'd get one. It's a good gun.

You can lower the hammer to half cock on a 1911 and CZ, but you can not lower the striker on the current PT pistols!

Why would you lower the hammer to half-cock? Half-cock does nothing but prevent you from dropping the hammer inadvertently on a live round. Want a safe gun? Use the safety. Want a gun ready to fire? Take the safety off. Any other situation and you're better off just removing the round, regardless of the firearm make and model. (This really seems like a pointless criticism on your part.)

 

[DawgFvr]

I love my 2nd Gen DAO PT145 and found it very accurate. Now...when I do let others shoot it...I have noted that people not familiar with firing weapons, especially semi-autos...well, they had problems. People who knew how to fire an semi-auto...no problems. Need I say more?

 

[JeepGeeek]

so am I correct in thinking that the current Millenium Pro pistols have the short rail at the front of the frame?

 

[xplicitfire]

I just bought a 3rd Gen .40 last week. I took it to the range and was very impressed. I am waiting to get my CHL(HURRY DPS) so I can use it as my ccw. Is there any kind of accessories that can be put on it? Red dot perhaps? And if so does anybody know where I could find some?

 

[JeepGeeek]

just picked up a PT111 Pro today- VERY happy with it.

This is my second brand-new handgun. First being a 24/7 Pro in .40. I took the .40 straight out of the box and ran 180gr FMJ through it- had several failures to go into battery. Range guy suggested i lube the gun (well duh, in hindsight), no problems since.

After picking up the PT111 today, while picking up ammo at WM, I grabbed carb cleaner and a can of Break Free. Sprayed out the shipping preservative (cosmoline?), sprayed Break Free over strategic places, wiped it off. Gun ran like a clock.

VERY happy. I'm even startig to prefer the Heine sights to standard 3-dot.

 

[XD-40 Shooter]

I've owned my PT-140 Pro DAO since January '05 and I am very happy with it. It has been 100% reliable, very accurate for a compact gun, tames the 40 recoil nicely, fits my hand great, and it has an excellent fit and finish. For $350 out the door, I'm happy. I also like the large 3 dot sights on these guns, much larger than what is on my XD, alot easier to see.

 

[Onei1985]

PT111 Pro Millennium

I bought this gun, and loved it. Fits my hand right and ate every brand name ammo that I fed it. No jams or any problems. Going to a gun show now to buy another Taurus. Peace to all.
J

 

[rocinante]

I have a new PT145 and like it very much. I find a lot of comfort in 9 rounds of 45, the form factor and grip angle is compatible with my other pistols. For a DA the trigger feels good, long but reasonably light seems to be the best description. Recoil is surprising tame although I do feel it in the web of my hand after a while. I think that the grip is a little fat and contoured helps a lot.

I am a lefty so I will throw in two cents on how I carry. I carry it for cross draw in a generic iwb holster with the safety on. I flip the safety off with my left index finger before I draw. The index finger then kind of rides naturally along the side of the gun if that makes sense. Feels safe enough.The little bugger rides comfortable and conceals well against my body being the grip tilts back enough to ride with my body best. For comparison I am 6 ft, 170 and 34 pants are loose enough to accommodate the gun.

 

[kiawahman]

"It does shoot about 3" low at 15 yards but I am told that is because of the way I grip. "

I had the same results on my PT111 until modifying my grip to having 'both thumbs forward' or 'straight thumbs' instead of overlapping thumbs. http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_training/combatg_100306/
It involves rotating the support hand/wrist forward about 30 degrees allowing the grip hand thumb to lay on top of the support hand thumb. This provided a much firmer grip, limited recoil, and allowed me to place the rounds where I was aiming. Using this grip I was able to reset the sights to 'zero' which is the way they came from the factory. Quick firing accuracy improved dramatically as well as I am now able to manage the recoil better and re-set on the target much faster.

You will notice your PT111 MilPro has two dimples on each side of the weapon to correspond with this grip in the placing of your thumbs (and trigger finger when not firing), which makes it easy to repeat the same grip over and over again, quickly. This grip may feel awkward at first, but your muscle memory will learn it in no time flat.

Another big plus to this grip is that it gets the thumbs away from the mag release on just about any weapon.

This same grip made a huge difference in 'limp wristed' beginners and their FTF/FTE troubles with other weapons due to undermanaged recoil, especially those shooting .45's.

 

[Sicari]

why the PT111 shoots low

The PT111 shoots low because it features genuine defective Heine straight 8 sights.
If you're picky like me (you actually want the gun to hit point of aim) simply file down the front sight an appropriate amount, being careful not to remove too much metal then fill and paint the Heinie dots black so you can't see them. Now that you've fixed the Heinie mess, you can enjoy what is otherwise a fine pistol.
Now for a set of night sights.........