Taurus TX .22 LR...

[12Bravo20]

It happens whenever Taurus or any budget priced gun is mentioned. You'll have the Sig, Glock, etc fanboys who aren't interested and who do not like the company is question who will do their best to derail a thread and try to tell everyone else they're pistol isn't worthy...

Unfortunately I have seen more of this type of "bashing" on this forum in the last few months. Either that or some responds with an answer that has nothing to do with the OP's questions and telling the OP to buy X instead of Y. None of it is helpful.

I personally like seeing guns from different manufacturers succeed. And yes I do own firearms from Sig, Glock and Smith & Wesson along with guns from Taurus, Kel-Tec and even Hi-Point. Heck, my $180 Hi-Point carbine functions perfectly and shoots just as accurate as my 9mm AR with quality parts used in the build.

Looking for a Taurus TX22 is on hold for a while since I picked up a Kel-Tec CP33 yesterday. And yes I own a Glock G44 too. And ALL manufacturers have some type of teaching problems with new guns.

My hat off to people like Gunny who do own both and have taken the time to do honest reviews and comparisons of both, listing the good and the bad.

 

[triplebike]

Ok you can all take your heads out of the sand now. If I see a post of a fellow gun owner that thinking about or wants info about the TX22 I will send them a private message so as not to ruffle your delicate feathers. Just don't like seeing fellow gun owners to get burned by the Taurus TX22 like I did. Of course everything I posted in #44 is true. There's enough evidence to back up what I said, but I guess that stating known issues is just to hard for some to handle.

 

[12Bravo20]

Ok you can all take your heads out of the sand now. If I see a post of a fellow gun owner that thinking about or wants info about the TX22 I will send them a private message so as not to ruffle your delicate feathers. Just don't like seeing fellow gun owners to get burned by the Taurus TX22 like I did. Of course everything I posted in #44 is true. There's enough evidence to back up what I said, but I guess that stating known issues is just to hard for some to handle.

Actually it would benefit us all to see actual failures no matter what gun it is. Was your failure a fluke or something common is the question.

Just my opinion, what we don't need is the brand bashing especially if the person bashing doesn't even own or have experience with the gun in question. I love to hear people's honest experiences with different brands without the bashing.

 

[triplebike]

Actually it would benefit us all to see actual failures no matter what gun it is. Was your failure a fluke or something common is the question.

Just my opinion, what we don't need is the brand bashing especially if the person bashing doesn't even own or have experience with the gun in question. I love to hear people's honest experiences with different brands without the bashing.

This is MY tx22 slide. I am talking about MY experience. 3months old 4500 rds fired. See the crack in the slide. If you did some research you will find that I'm far from the only one that has experienced this problem. A blind man can see that the slide is way to thin, every other 22 is at least 5 times thicker. All other 22's look like the Glock picture I posted. My Ruger SR22 is at least 5 times as thick. I don't own a Glock I only used that photo because it shows the amazing contrast between slides. I could have posted any other brand and it would show the same contrast.

 

[Ernie Bass]

So if you purchase a firearm that has the worst made barrel ever seen in a 22 you're a hater
So if you purchase a firearm that has a slide that is so thin that they crack or break you're a hater
So if you purchase a firearm that has a recoil assemble that acts like a grinder you're a hater
So if you purchase a firearm that spends 4-5 months to be repaired and problems not solved, poorly designed parts are just replaced you're a hater.
So if you purchase a firearm that a firearm manufacturer knowingly sells to their customers with all the above problems you're a hater.
So if you try to bring to light how uncaring a manufacturer can be to fellow gun owners you're a hater.
GOT IT.
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Taurus making a better 22 than glock, really. Take a good look at these two slides. Tell me which is made better.

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I do not have a dog in this fight period. And I would not mine having either of the two guns. Looking at the picture you submitted, Normally I would take the thickness of the two guns and go with the Glock. BUT only if it were a 9mm.
I really believe that a 22.cal it would make no difference in the long run. Just two different ways of manufacturing and utilizing different designs to make the weight lighter for the slide etc. and reducing weight in certain area's. Both guns being new to the market were going to have first run problems. It is inevitable with just about all new Firearms.
I have a SR22, bought when it first came out. I had a number of issues, but they worked out the issues and now that pistol has run with thousands of rounds and runs great. And the SLIDE of that gun is not Thick by any means.

So to answer your question which slid is Better? Actually I like the Taurus slide. But not saying either one is better.
Here is a Old Pic of one of my issues with my SR22 which I purchased when it first came out. I had it sent back two or three times and they finally replaced the slide.And again, the gun has been running fantastic to this day so many years later.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

This is MY tx22 slide. I am talking about MY experience. 3months old 4500 rds fired. See the crack in the slide. If you did some research you will find that I'm far from the only one that has experienced this problem. A blind man can see that the slide is way to thin, every other 22 is at least 5 times thicker. All other 22's look like the Glock picture I posted. My Ruger SR22 is at least 5 times as thick. I don't own a Glock I only used that photo because it shows the amazing contrast between slides. I could have posted any other brand and it would show the same contrast.

You try to come across like you have concern for people wanting to buy a TX22. But instead of giving information and facts in a good way, you come off like a gun bashing Troll.
Your first post was sarcastic. Then you Post a pic of a broken TX22 slide, and tell us that yours broke. Then you admit that Pic of the broken slide is not from your gun. But you did end up posting another pic of a cracked slide that you said was yours. You also Said that Taurus has bad Customer service, but you failed to give any information about your experience with Taurus.
I went through your 286 post that you made on this forum. For someone so concerned about other gun owners getting burned by Taurus, you never created a topic on your problems with your TX22 to inform others.
You may not know this but slide failure is a fact in auto pistols. It happens to some of the best of them. Even the Glock 44 has had some issues with slide failure.
This Is not my gun:


And to sound more credible, avoid over exaggerating. We can plainly see that the thickness at the front of the Taurus slide is not as thick as others, but I haven’t seen one five times thicker. Math is not a new concept.


Also, I’m not sure if you know that the front of the Glock 44 slide is made of polymer.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I just purchased a TX22 and have the barrel issues. Taurus sent me a replacement barrel. Both the original and replacement barrels look like the bores where chiseled out by hand using dull chisels.

I still like the thing, feels great in the hand, a great trigger out of the box, ands eats just about any ammo.

How long ago did you buy your TX22? Was it old stock or one of the newer built ones?
I did some homework before I bought my TX22. I knew they had some issues with the barrels. I also knew that the barrels were not made by Taurus. On another forum they went into detail about the barrel issues and it was stated that Taurus found another company to make the barrels. They didn’t say who was making them.
When I bought my TX22, I checked the bore to see that it was smooth.
Did you contact Taurus after getting the bad replacement barrel? And what is the status of your pistol now?

 

[12Bravo20]

12Bravo20 said: ↑
Actually it would benefit us all to see actual failures no matter what gun it is. Was your failure a fluke or something common is the question.

Just my opinion, what we don't need is the brand bashing especially if the person bashing doesn't even own or have experience with the gun in question. I love to hear people's honest experiences with different brands without the bashing.

This is MY tx22 slide. I am talking about MY experience. 3months old 4500 rds fired. See the crack in the slide. If you did some research you will find that I'm far from the only one that has experienced this problem. A blind man can see that the slide is way to thin, every other 22 is at least 5 times thicker. All other 22's look like the Glock picture I posted. My Ruger SR22 is at least 5 times as thick. I don't own a Glock I only used that photo because it shows the amazing contrast between slides. I could have posted any other brand and it would show the same contrast.

Triple,
I was not pointing you out, I was making a general statement about people bashing brands/guns without any experience. Now if my post got your feathers ruffled, I don't know what to say.

I would suggest that if you have issues, please give pertinent information such as round count when failure happened and also detailed info on how the company handled things when contacted about the failure.

12Bravo20 said: ↑
And ALL manufacturers have some type of teaching problems with new guns.

AS I said, All manufacturers have teething problems with new guns. You showed a Taurus TX22 with a failure just as Gunny showed a Glock G44 with a failure and Ernie Bass showed an early Ruger SR22 with issues. I've seen S&W 22A pistols have issues when the first came out.

Every manufacturer will have lemons slip out and any new design will have things that needs addressed. What matters is how often there are issues and HOW a company takes care of them.

 

[Styx]

Yea there's

Triple,
I was not pointing you out, I was making a general statement about people bashing brands/guns without any experience. Now if my post got your feathers ruffled, I don't know what to say.

I would suggest that if you have issues, please give pertinent information such as round count when failure happened and also detailed info on how the company handled things when contacted about the failure.



AS I said, All manufacturers have teething problems with new guns. You showed a Taurus TX22 with a failure just as Gunny showed a Glock G44 with a failure and Ernie Bass showed an early Ruger SR22 with issues. I've seen S&W 22A pistols have issues when the first came out.

Every manufacturer will have lemons slip out and any new design will have things that needs addressed. What matters is how often there are issues and HOW a company takes care of them.

Very true, but I think that some people that been around for a while just can't get over Taurus' past. When Glock, Ruger, S&W, etc has an issue, people view it as a fluke. The news doesn't travel as much. When someone reports a issue with Taurus or a budget priced pistol, instead of being seen as a fluke, its seen as being a wide spread problem. A reason why you should have purchased a more expensive pistol. Then the handful of cases or initial teething issue I will be regurgitated ad nauseam.

I don't own a TX22, but I do not usually buy new to market pistols that consist of a new design whether it be from Taurus to Glocks and everything in between. If you sign up to be a beta tester, don't be surprised when there's bugs and a other issues while the manufacturer is working out all the kinks.

 

[12Bravo20]

Yea there's

Very true, but I think that some people that been around for a while just can't get over Taurus' past. When Glock, Ruger, S&W, etc has an issue, people view it as a fluke. The news doesn't travel as much. When someone reports a issue with Taurus or a budget priced pistol, instead of being seen as a fluke, its seen as being a wide spread problem. A reason why you should have purchased a more expensive pistol. Then the handful of cases or initial teething issue I will be regurgitated ad nauseam.

I don't own a TX22, but I do usually buy new to market pistols that consist of a new design whether it be from Taurus to Glocks and everything in between. If you sign up to be a beta tester, don't be surprised when there's bugs and a other issues while the manufacturer is working out all the kinks.

I agree with what you said. And I don't mind being a beta tester if I really like a gun. I bought my S&W 22A years ago when they were new and I took a chance on my Glock G44. Both have been great for me with no problems. I was wanting to check out the Taurus TX22 when I bought my Glock but no one had the Taurus in stock at that time. I still might check out the TX22 later down the road, but that is on hold for now since I just bought a Kel-Tec CP33. I will try to give a decent review of the CP33 once I get to the range with it (new thread).

 

[CraigC]

Some people (ahem triplebike) need to lighten up.

I am historically not a fan at all of Taurus. Nor have I ever tried to convince myself that something sub-par was "just as good" as something much better or more expensive. I enjoy my cheap guns just as I enjoy my expensive guns. Price tag has no bearing on that. However, the TX22 has impressed me, plain and simple. I will also go on record as saying that the $300 TX22 is not only more fun to shoot than the $300+ conversion on my $900 Beretta M9 but it also doesn't throw crap back in my face when I shoot it with a suppressor either.

 

[triplebike]

The TX22 was the 1st Taurus firearm I ever purchased. I always stayed away from Taurus because of the horror stories. I got caught up in the hype of the TX22, so I took a chance and purchased one. Paid $309 for it. I am not a wealthy person and I have to spend my $ wisely. I raved about the gun, enjoyed shooting it, liked the trigger, the way it felt & 16 rds of 22 was a lot of fun. Even thought my barrel did have the chattering it ran reliably. Two months into ownership & around 4500 rds fired noticed that the slide had cracked. The recoil assembly had ground away the front of the slide where it resided. It was sent back to Taurus by my LGS where it was purchased. Taurus was never able to give me any status of the repair. 12 weeks later my gun was returned to my LGS. When I went to pick it up at my LGS, the paperwork from Taurus only said that the slide was replaced, as well as a recoil pin. (I requested a new barrel & recoil assembly in the paperwork sent out with the gun since that is what caused the cracked slide) They said that they fired 32 rds of CCI MINI MAGS to test it. I proceeded to remove the slide to check it while at the LGS. I could clearly see that the new slide had already had gouging from the recoil assembly and this was with only the 32 rds that Taurus fired. Needlessly to say I was upset since Taurus did not correct the problem, did not check the slide after they fired it and no mention about the barrel. All they did was replace the slide and made no attempt to actually solve the gouging problem. I showed it to the owner of the LGS. He agreed there still was an issue. He offered to either send it back (for probably another 12 weeks) or give me refund. (I have been a loyal customer at this LGS for 10+ years) I took the refund and purchased a new Ruger 22/45 5.5 which was also priced at $309. As a side note shortly after purchasing the TX22 and being impressed with it (before the cracked slide) I purchased my 2nd ever Taurus, A 9mm G2C. While the TX22 was in for repair I noticed that my G2C had developed spider cracks in the underside of the slide next to the firing pin assembly. 3000 rds fired. The G2C also ran flawlessly and I had no qualms about the gun, but after seeing the spider cracks I had just about enough of Taurus firearms. Took the G2C back to the LGS and the owner and I compared it to a to his display and verified that there was indeed a problem. At this point there was no way I was going to deal with Taurus customer service. One again I was given a refund and I purchased a Ruger SR9C. I have been a firearm owner for over 50 yrs. I have owned numerous brands of firearms (including Hi-Point) and have never been through what I went through with Taurus.

PS - Hi-Point very minor problem with my 9MM carbine was and is spectacular in terms of customer service.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

The TX22 was the 1st Taurus firearm I ever purchased. I always stayed away from Taurus because of the horror stories. I got caught up in the hype of the TX22, so I took a chance and purchased one. Paid $309 for it. I am not a wealthy person and I have to spend my $ wisely. I raved about the gun, enjoyed shooting it, liked the trigger, the way it felt & 16 rds of 22 was a lot of fun. Even thought my barrel did have the chattering it ran reliably. Two months into ownership & around 4500 rds fired noticed that the slide had cracked. The recoil assembly had ground away the front of the slide where it resided. It was sent back to Taurus by my LGS where it was purchased. Taurus was never able to give me any status of the repair. 12 weeks later my gun was returned to my LGS. When I went to pick it up at my LGS, the paperwork from Taurus only said that the slide was replaced, as well as a recoil pin. (I requested a new barrel & recoil assembly in the paperwork sent out with the gun since that is what caused the cracked slide) They said that they fired 32 rds of CCI MINI MAGS to test it. I proceeded to remove the slide to check it while at the LGS. I could clearly see that the new slide had already had gouging from the recoil assembly and this was with only the 32 rds that Taurus fired. Needlessly to say I was upset since Taurus did not correct the problem, did not check the slide after they fired it and no mention about the barrel. All they did was replace the slide and made no attempt to actually solve the gouging problem. I showed it to the owner of the LGS. He agreed there still was an issue. He offered to either send it back (for probably another 12 weeks) or give me refund. (I have been a loyal customer at this LGS for 10+ years) I took the refund and purchased a new Ruger 22/45 5.5 which was also priced at $309. As a side note shortly after purchasing the TX22 and being impressed with it (before the cracked slide) I purchased my 2nd ever Taurus, A 9mm G2C. While the TX22 was in for repair I noticed that my G2C had developed spider cracks in the underside of the slide next to the firing pin assembly. 3000 rds fired. The G2C also ran flawlessly and I had no qualms about the gun, but after seeing the spider cracks I had just about enough of Taurus firearms. Took the G2C back to the LGS and the owner and I compared it to a to his display and verified that there was indeed a problem. At this point there was no way I was going to deal with Taurus customer service. One again I was given a refund and I purchased a Ruger SR9C. I have been a firearm owner for over 50 yrs. I have owned numerous brands of firearms (including Hi-Point) and have never been through what I went through with Taurus.

PS - Hi-Point very minor problem with my 9MM carbine was and is spectacular in terms of customer service.

Have you ever had a Gunsmith work on a gun. Most around here have a two to four moth turnaround. You had a slide issue with your TX22. Taurus replaced the slide. You then noticed the new slide was gouging o the inside. You didn’t bother to contact Taurus, you just gave up on the gun. If you Are saying that Taurus’s Customer Service sucks just on this one experience, then you haven’t dealt with bad customer service yet. That’s your decision. You are lucky that you’re LGS gave you a full refund. Not many will do that these days.
But just because you were not happy with your one time experience with Taurus Customer Service, there is no reason to go on a crusade to turn people away from them.
You came across a lot better in your last post, less kicking and screaming and more laid out facts.
I like the TX22, but I like my Glock 44 better. My 16yo son likes the TX22 better. For him it’s the trigger and the higher capacity magazine.

 

[Styx]

I've owned 8 Tauruses. Two revolvers and 6 pistols since 2013. Never had an issue or had to deal with their CS. If I had the same issues triplebike had, I'd probably be on a crusade too.

With that said, the only other Manufacturing dedicated forums I frequent are Beretta's, S&W's, and Walther's. I can tell you that those forums are filled people who also had a gun returned, but feel like the problem was not fixed. It's with multiple Beretta pistols, most of the complaints with S&W are from their revolvers, and most notably with Walther, it's with their PPS M2 barrel peening issue.

I've heard a few unrelated complaints about issues with the TX22 barrel, but not to many complaints about the G2C line of pistols. I think you have to have had the worst luck in that regard.

 

[Styx]

I've owned 8 Tauruses. Two revolvers and 6 pistols since 2013. Never had an issue or had to deal with their CS. If I had the same issues triplebike had, I'd probably be on a crusade too.

The TX22 was the 1st Taurus firearm I ever purchased. I always stayed away from Taurus because of the horror stories. I got caught up in the hype of the TX22, so I took a chance and purchased one. Paid $309 for it. I am not a wealthy person and I have to spend my $ wisely. I raved about the gun, enjoyed shooting it, liked the trigger, the way it felt & 16 rds of 22 was a lot of fun. Even thought my barrel did have the chattering it ran reliably. Two months into ownership & around 4500 rds fired noticed that the slide had cracked. The recoil assembly had ground away the front of the slide where it resided. It was sent back to Taurus by my LGS where it was purchased. Taurus was never able to give me any status of the repair. 12 weeks later my gun was returned to my LGS. When I went to pick it up at my LGS, the paperwork from Taurus only said that the slide was replaced, as well as a recoil pin. (I requested a new barrel & recoil assembly in the paperwork sent out with the gun since that is what caused the cracked slide) They said that they fired 32 rds of CCI MINI MAGS to test it. I proceeded to remove the slide to check it while at the LGS. I could clearly see that the new slide had already had gouging from the recoil assembly and this was with only the 32 rds that Taurus fired. Needlessly to say I was upset since Taurus did not correct the problem, did not check the slide after they fired it and no mention about the barrel. All they did was replace the slide and made no attempt to actually solve the gouging problem. I showed it to the owner of the LGS. He agreed there still was an issue. He offered to either send it back (for probably another 12 weeks) or give me refund. (I have been a loyal customer at this LGS for 10+ years) I took the refund and purchased a new Ruger 22/45 5.5 which was also priced at $309. As a side note shortly after purchasing the TX22 and being impressed with it (before the cracked slide) I purchased my 2nd ever Taurus, A 9mm G2C. While the TX22 was in for repair I noticed that my G2C had developed spider cracks in the underside of the slide next to the firing pin assembly. 3000 rds fired. The G2C also ran flawlessly and I had no qualms about the gun, but after seeing the spider cracks I had just about enough of Taurus firearms. Took the G2C back to the LGS and the owner and I compared it to a to his display and verified that there was indeed a problem. At this point there was no way I was going to deal with Taurus customer service. One again I was given a refund and I purchased a Ruger SR9C. I have been a firearm owner for over 50 yrs. I have owned numerous brands of firearms (including Hi-Point) and have never been through what I went through with Taurus.

PS - Hi-Point very minor problem with my 9MM carbine was and is spectacular in terms of customer service.

With that said, the only other Manufacturing dedicated forums I frequent are Beretta's, S&W's, and Walther's. I can tell you that those forums are filled people who also had a gun returned, but feel like the problem was not fixed. It's with multiple Beretta pistols, most of the complaints with S&W are from their revolvers, and most notably with Walther, it's with their PPS M2

 

[Styx]

Back on topic, how does the TX22 compare to the M&P22?

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Back on topic, how does the TX22 compare to the M&P22?

I need to get a M&P 22 and compare it to the TX22 and G44. You see what you just did? Gone and given me a reason to buy another gun.

 

[12Bravo20]

M&P22 or M&P22 compact? Either way it would be interesting to see how they both compare to the TX22 and G44. It's probably a good thing that my local pusher doesn't have the TX or M&P22 in stock. It's bad enough that they twisted my arms into buying the Kel-Tec CMR and CP33 along with the Glock 44 and Taurus 942 revolver since February. Almost forgot about the Rock Island Armory 9mm 1911.

 

[triplebike]

Have you ever had a Gunsmith work on a gun. Most around here have a two to four moth turnaround. You had a slide issue with your TX22. Taurus replaced the slide. You then noticed the new slide was gouging o the inside. You didn’t bother to contact Taurus, you just gave up on the gun. If you Are saying that Taurus’s Customer Service sucks just on this one experience, then you haven’t dealt with bad customer service yet. That’s your decision. You are lucky that you’re LGS gave you a full refund. Not many will do that these days.
But just because you were not happy with your one time experience with Taurus Customer Service, there is no reason to go on a crusade to turn people away from them.
You came across a lot better in your last post, less kicking and screaming and more laid out facts.
I like the TX22, but I like my Glock 44 better. My 16yo son likes the TX22 better. For him it’s the trigger and the higher capacity magazine.

You sir live in a fantasy world or your being compensated by Taurus. (Latter is a joke) Everyone knows about Taurus's terrible customer service.
Denying horrible service of Taurus is a disservice to fellow gun owners. 12 week turnaround, replacing bad parts with new bad parts. They had the gun for 12 weeks and they don't check it after firing 32 rds? How many TX22's did they release with those horrible barrels. Nobody at Taurus noticed the bad barrels? They didn't know about the poorly designed recoil assembles? They sent my gun back and they didn't think that the recoil wouldn't create the same problem? If I listed all the posts of people dealing with Taurus and the barrel issue it would take me hours. How many people were sent replacement barrels that looked as bad or worst than their original barrels. People are devising spacers for the recoil assembly to save their slides. If you think for a second that Taurus cares about the people who are buying their products you are delusional. They are a volume based company, make them as cheap as possible and flood the market. If they throw 10 against the wall & 6 stick that's a win for them.

PS - I just got back from the range with the SR22 after putting around 200 rds of Thunderbolts down range, flawlessly by the way. I measured the front of the slide It's exactly 1/2 inch thick.

 

[Michael A Ferber]

Sorry, I posted my enthusiasm for my new Taurus 22 paper-puncher. Thanks for all your positive responses. Be well, my friends...

 

[12Bravo20]

Sorry, I posted my enthusiasm for my new Taurus 22 paper-puncher. Thanks for all your positive responses. Be well, my friends...

Enjoy your TX22. I hope you have many years of use and enjoyment with it.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Thanks for all your positive responses. Be well, my friends...

Let's put this one to bed