Tell me about CZ 75 please

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Is not the CZ P-01 just a CZ compact with an alloy frame and decocker instead of the manual safety?

I much prefer a manual safety so I'm leaning towards a regular CZ 75 compact but I was wondering if you guys think it would - if put up to it - pass that stringent NATO test that the P-01 passed.
 
No, the Compact is a steel frame, the PCR is a cast alloy frame, and the P01 is a forged alloy frame with rail. Not quite the same. :) Yes, they are very tough - I had a Compact, and you'd be hard pressed to shoot it out with normal useage and maintenance in a standard lifetime.
 
are you going to carry it? the alloy versus steel frame makes a difference in all day comfort. might be worth going with the decocker to get an alloy frame... or try the P07 with a manual safety - but not a lot of holster choices yet.
 
I much prefer a manual safety so I'm leaning towards a regular CZ 75 compact but I was wondering if you guys think it would - if put up to it - pass that stringent NATO test that the P-01 passed.
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The P06 comes with both, and being polymer it is lighter, more durable, and holds 2 more shots, while being the same size, it also has an improved trigger.
 
I have a pair of cz75B's. Fantastic guns. If you get the standard model order the rubber grips for it. They make a world of difference for the feel of the gun. The P01 model has an accessory rail which would be nice.
 
I really like the CZ75B a lot. Reliable, accurate, good quality, fair price. I like the manual safety option for carrying cocked and locked too (even though it's really too big and heavy for me to carry around).

The only thing I don't like about it is that due to the design, the slide is very shallow. Not much to grab on to and pull..if you had to in an emergency situation. And it's a little tougher with the wolff spring in it. It's not a huge deal and I think the other good qualities outweigh that. Practice helps out a little of course too.

The trigger also usually needs a bit of break-in to smooth up a bit when new. That's about it. Great pistols.
 
I'm wearing a 75BD right now. I carry it quite a bit. They are big and heavy but can be managed with a good holster and belt. Sometimes I use a Don Hume IWB H715 and sometimes I use an M-Tac from Comp-Tac. Either one works well.

I don't know if you plan to carry this gun but I personally like a full size combat handgun for Concealed Carry. The gun's accuracy and feeding reliability are off the charts so that's a concern you can put out of your mind. It just works all the time. If you go with the old style single action you will want to carry it "cocked and locked". Draw the gun from holster, switch safety to off and all of your shots will be in single action meaning the trigger weight is very light and the trigger pull is very short. When finished firing if there is still a round in the chamber the correct procedure is to return the safety to the "safe" position. There really should never be a time when you would want to drop the hammer on a loaded chamber. If you do just carefully ease the trigger down with the thumb and forefinger of one hand while pulling the trigger with the other hand. The problem with the original single action only action is the shooter forgets to switch the safety back to the "safe" position. I think this is why the decocker version was invented.

With the decocker just pull down on the decocker and the hammer will move down to the half cocked position. The decock model is supposed to be carried in the half cock position with a round in the chamber. A long double action trigger pull fully cocks and then releases the hammer. All subsequent shots will be from the fully cocked single action hammer position, a very short and very light weight trigger pull. Which is better? Neither, just depends on what you want. Which is safer? Probably the decocker.

Bottom line, this is a classic handgun in the same class as the Browning High Power. Much more reliable than an untuned 1911. Probably more reliable than the touted glock even as reliable as glocks are. I have the 9mm but it comes in 40 too.
 
Playmaker, like armoredman posted there are numerous minor differences between the various models. I don't know why CZ does it that way but it's a small complaint from me. I went with the stainless 75B to get the more curved trigger than has been generally available on the standard blued/polycoated full size. They also use the same or similar trigger on the PCR and P01. I didn't get a picture of it, but I believe the P01 and PCR also use different recoil springs.

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The pistols of CZ origin are specific to the competition, and are not stock pieces. I spoke only to the CZ pistols that I have shot, or seen shot. You could make a High Point accurate enough to shoot in IPSC if you invested enough money in it. The European shooters have used modified CZ pistols in IPSC events for years. However, that doesn't readily equate to every CZ being target accurate. There's that 25 yd 1 MOA thing.

If I misled you, I apologize, sir.
 
I've had my 75BD for about 6 years now.

Until I put about 2-3000 rounds through it, the trigger was frankly horrible. Gritty, stiff DA pull, camming in SA. I've since installed a lighter hammer spring that helped things a bit, but it still could use a trigger job.

It's very ergonomic, probably the most comfortable handgun I've ever shot. This helps with accuracy which it also has in spades.

Maybe mine was a lemon, but I had serious FTE issues with standard range ammo. Several parts were changed out to no effect. I've since concluded that the 10 and 15rd factory mags were partially to blame and the new 16rd MecGars seem to have helped.

But honestly I don't shoot the 9mm slide much and use the Kadet 22 kit a lot more these days. An amazing piece of machinery.

 
If you always had the scope on it, the added weight may be taking the umf out of the slide with range ammo.

All I shoot is range ammo, no problems....
 
grimjaw - Nice pics.

But did you replace the rear sight on your Compact? If not, those no longer appear to be the standard when I look at CZ's website.
 
CZ 75B DA/SA:

Pro's: Whats already been said, especially --accurate, low flip, reliable and good availabilty for reasonably priced parts/upgrades.

Con's: When new, the trigger is rough/gritty with a fairly long hard pull.

The good news is the trigger will usually smooth out nicely after a few hundred rounds of fire/dry fire.

Even better news is with a little work and cheap parts, it can be made into a really good trigger (including the DA) on a really good gun.
 
if you don't mind a little effort (ten minutes) you can change the recoil spring to 11lb, and the hammer spring to 15 lb, and shoot the gun. after a few hundred rounds it will break-in and you'll have an awesome gun. join us at the www.czforumsite.info and have some fun! :)
 
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