TEOTWAWKI gun

[NineseveN]

A little research into the search engine would also go a long way.

LMAO, but yeah, +1. :banghead:

 

[Mad Bodhi]

http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/bandit_1.html
.50 caliber AIR GUN !!! Rig up a hand cranked compressor and your'e good to go.Some large caliber air guns were used by Napolean way back in the day with a precharged flask serving as the butt of the rifle.Multiple shots by quickly switching the flask.No gun powder,no primers,very few moving parts.I wonder if I could convert one of my M14's .

 

[VirgilCaine]

Some large caliber air guns were used by Napolean way back in the day with a precharged flask serving as the butt of the rifle.Multiple shots by quickly switching the flask.No gun powder,no primers,very few moving parts.I wonder if I could convert one of my M14's .

IIRC they were used against Napoleon, by the Swiss or the Austrians or some country around there.

 

[biere]

I prefer to bridge the gap from flintlock to modern stuff.

Give me a 45/70 rifle in lever action and you can load it with black powder.

For a handgun the 45 colt should have some black powder loads as well.

Personally I like buried smokeless powder and brass and primers and even bullets or at least some lead and a thing to cast the bullet shape with.

Pay attention to some of the cowboy shoots, they have some blackpowder shoots and stuff like the black powder ruger revolver is almost just like the single action big size rugers. I don't know what is available today other than the vaquero or whatever got downsized a bit so I don't know what happened with the black powder single action ruger.

Overall, if you plan to use it a lot you will run out of ammo. Even if you have 1 million rounds stored in your fortress, you will use your ammo up protecting that which you are using up.

Far better to appear poor and broke and wandering with some stuff buried here and there and over there as well.

 

[whm1974]

The drawback of a .22 weapon is that when you're out of ammo, you're out of luck. I'd prefer ammo that was reloadable with home-cast bullets. Primers last forever of stored well, as does smokeless powder. Lead should be widely available. So a carbine in .30 to .40-something would be my choice. Plus the trusty 1911 .45 ACP, of course.

Keep in mind that bricks of .22's are cheap and easy to store. It easy to have a big enough stockpile to last until the world recovers.

.50 caliber AIR GUN !!! Rig up a hand cranked compressor and your'e good to go.Some large caliber air guns were used by Napolean way back in the day with a precharged flask serving as the butt of the rifle.Multiple shots by quickly switching the flask.No gun powder,no primers,very few moving parts.I wonder if I could convert one of my M14's .

Get a mold and you will have ammo anywhere there is lead... keep some spare parts though.

-Bill

 

[Mad Bodhi]

IIRC they were used against Napoleon, by the Swiss or the Austrians or some country around there.

Quite right,my mistake.

I still want one.Their are pics on the FALfiles of a nice spike and doe a member killed with a big bore air rifle.

 

[mustanger98]

I won't say it can't be done because I've heard plenty of times of squirells and rabbits being killed with Sheridan Blue Streak which is 5mm (=.20cal.). It takes 8 pumps, IIRC. However, in the context of pre-Apocalysp America, I wonder where this is legal. I know in GA, it's any centerfire rifle .22caliber or larger, any centerfire handgun, and any shotgun w/slugs 20guage or larger. Our state hunting regs don't say anything about airguns. Post-Apocalyps, if it'll kill 'em, anything goes if it puts meat on the table or keeps the bad guys away.

 

[whm1974]

Here in IL, this large bore air rifle would be considered a firearm.

-Bill

 

[Travis McGee]

There are zillions of bullets around. There will be bullets after most of the sheeple have died off from starvation, disease, and civil war. Mad Max had it all wrong: guns and ammo will still be around after cars.

 

[whm1974]

There are zillions of bullets around. There will be bullets after most of the sheeple have died off from starvation, disease, and civil war. Mad Max had it all wrong: guns and ammo will still be around after cars.

I would have to agree. Most gunowners ussally have way more then one gun, and almost 1000 rnds for each one, in partickal .22 LR ammo. And this is not even counting survivalist types.

Plus some of the biggest ammo manufacters are located in small towns. Such as Olin/Winchester in E. Alton. So that town wouldn't be nuked. Plus as long as they could get the materals some ammo could still be produced.

-Bill

 

[Kodiaz]

Most gun owners do not have a thousand rounds for every firearm they own. My father's ammo cabinet probably has less than 1000 rounds total. And if were talking defense capable rounds less than 200. He had 3 12 ga. shotguns 1 20 ga. 1 .308 rifle 1 .22. And a revolver he hasn't shot in years. I hope my folks come to their senses and move here to Fl. as for me and I'm an aspiring survivalist. I have 700 rounds for the 1911, 500 for the .40, 170 00 Buck, 130 slugs. I have no EBR the minute I get my tax return I'm getting one.

 

[wizard of oz]

the true teotwawki gun here in oz is the .22lr rifle. You can use it to 'trade up' as well as hunting and self-defense in a pinch. We have such a huge problem with feral animals that it is impossible that such a firearm will ever be outlawed - rabbits would be in plague proportions even in the cities without them. Easiest ammo to stock up on.

 

[kjeff50cal]

The problem with Mad Max is the way Australia is banning guns you may only have the crossbow/bow & arrow/sling option. If you think that folks might raid the local millitary base, it may be a glowing field of slag or become the base of operations of an army commander turned warload who wants to setup his own country or the bad guys have had the idea first and then you have a situation that is worse than the movie.... BGs with Stingers and mortars not to mention heavy & light MGs.

kjeff50cal

 

[mustanger98]

The problem with Mad Max is the way Australia is banning guns you may only have the crossbow/bow & arrow/sling option. If you think that folks might raid the local millitary base, it may be a glowing field of slag or become the base of operations of an army commander turned warload who wants to setup his own country or the bad guys have had the idea first and then you have a situation that is worse than the movie.... BGs with Stingers and mortars not to mention heavy & light MGs.

Is it me or does that sound like present day Somalia?

 

[Deadman]

The most obvious choice would be a .22lr rifle.
Second choice would be a 5.56x45 based rifle due to civilian, military & law enforcement stocks.
Third choice would be something in .243 winchester as it is apparently the most popular (highest selling) centerfire cartridge here in Aus.