That Isn't a Holster Dear Uberti/Taylors 1862 Pocket Police

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@Jackrabbit1957 finished work on my original 1849 while I was on my handgun/archery/muzzleloader javelina hunt. I had to pass by his place to attend a meeing for a single day and he was gracious enough make it available to pick up. Nothing special as far as work goes. Cut a new halfcock notch, make a bolt block and probably some oher things hat I just don't realize. Its still original without any of the modern upgrades. Nice work.

So I pick up my holster while I'm at home and head back out to the hunting field only to realize I brought the wrong holster. Come to think of it, I might not have a correct holster for this one. Around the gun room I may have been using one that was too short and let the barrel extend out the bottom. Not something I would use while hunting.

I had to go to a memorial service yesterday and pass through Tucson and by my favorite gun shop. I told my wife that I decided to stop in ostensibly to find a holster suitable for he 1849. The only holster that even came close was far too busy with a garish basket weave and heavy stitching. So, no luck on a holster. First question when I come in the door? What did you buy?

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That isn't a holster dear! Nope, it's an Uberti 1862 Pocket Police sold by Taylors. Unfired. I've been looking at these for a while now. Just a svelte design and feels perfect in my average to smaller than average sized hands.

I haven't even taken it apart yet so othr than exterior observation and function it appears to be perfect. Short arbor, probably. This one will probably get @Jackrabbit1957 's full works though I will shoot it first.

I'm impressed with the fit and finish. Did Taylors do anything to these pistols after hey received hem from Uberti or did they have higher quality specifications on Uberti above what one could buy say from Dixie? I didn't get a great price compared to what is currently being sold at Dixie (when in stock). I paid $325 or just under what Dixie is selling them for. Taylor's sells them for $435. Does one 'get' anything from a Taylor's pistol for the exra amount?
 
That’s a good price these days. Let us know how it shoots. The pocket police was my dad’s favorite of all the cap and ball colts.
 
Measurements are ok. Well it has a 7 groove barrel so I can't measure it accurately. Throat is 0.3695", end of forcing cone is 0.366" and grooves measure 0.3655 at their smallest dimension. It seems to me that this dimension would get larger if we had an even number of grooves that opposed each other and could measure directly. I'm not sure that is correct. But its close at least. Shooting will be the deciding factor.

EDIT: The grooves measure 0.3675" at their largest dimension. If it is that dimension that would get larger if we had an even number of grooves.

It can be over rotated. So some work is necessary.
 
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Thanks for the write up, maybe sometime in the future a pocket police may end up in my hands. They are .36 only correct?
 
They are .36 only correct?

36 caliber 5 shot. Unlike the 1849, I don't think that they were made in any other caliber or number of shots.

I could see a person with larger hands not particularly liking the size, but for me it is just an almost perfect fit. I hope it shoots as well as it feels/looks. We will know tomorrow.
 
They must have had bigger pockets back then. ;)

'Pocket' certainly doesn't fit in the modern term. But considering that the Walker required a piece of machinery to lift the 1862 was a pea shooter. Even the 1849 isn't really a pocket gun even for pockets in 1849. Well, coat pockets I guess.
 
'Pocket' certainly doesn't fit in the modern term. But considering that the Walker required a piece of machinery to lift the 1862 was a pea shooter. Even the 1849 isn't really a pocket gun even for pockets in 1849. Well, coat pockets I guess.

I've seen pictures of Walkers in scabbards on saddles being carried like carbines. I think that was a TX ranger thing as Walker was a TX ranger.

How's Mesa these days? I lived there in 1974 a few blocks east of Pioneer Park.

You can PM me and not clutter up the thread.
 
I've seen pictures of Walkers in scabbards on saddles being carried like carbines.

The Walkers were definitely 'saddle' pistols and not designed to be carried on the hip. I think the Dragoons were also described as saddle pistols. The Colt 1860 was the first 44 caliber belt pistol. At least in the Colt versions.
 
The finish on the Uberti's are very nice. Really no room for improvement. Mine is very accurate.

I'll be shooting 0.375" round ball tomorrow and hope I can get results like that. I'll be trying varying amounts of both 3 and 4F. Once I get a feel for the firearm I'll make a decision on a conical.

I am pleased with the fit and finish of this Uberti. So far all I can find wrong is its ability to over rotate. The arbor may well be short but if so it isn't by much.
 
The pockets of mens coats were larger then. And there trousers had larger pockets and fit looser. Much more comfortable than what is worn today.

I also like the Pocket Police revolver.

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I had the chambers reamed to accept a .380 ball. Accuracy improved a good bit.

Kevin
 
Thanks for the mention Johnm1! To respond to Johnm1 's original question, it's my understanding that Taylor's hand picks stuff that looks and feels the smoothest action wise. They do not correct arbors or do anything to the internals unless you pay for it. Some dealers will tell you differently, I have yet to see any significant difference between something from Taylors or something sold by Cabelas. Dragoon45 would know better than any of us as he's seen a bunch of guns come through his shop.
 
I might just have to get bigger pockets. Considering my eyes I'm quite pleased with the new Pocket Police. Windy day and a couple 9f brain farts, but this one appears to like the larger powder charges. Best group was with 20 grains of 4f with 20 grains of 3f close behind. I started at 15 grains of both powders and increased to 18 grains of both. Ended with 20 grains.

20 grains 4f under a grease cookie and round ball, 11 yards, supported.

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I always have at least one case of cerebral flatulence every 10 rounds. I know its not far but I wanted to see what the firearm was capable of, not the shooter.

20 grains of 3f, round ball but this group was shot with loose grease above the ball. Ran out of grease cookies.

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18 grains of 4f. The more I look, this might be the best group

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18 grains of 3f

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15 grains of 4f

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15 grains of 3f

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I'm not unhappy with any of these. All groups were shot at 11 yards, supported. I'm glad I don't have to survive on my ability to reload this thing.

The over rotation has to be addressed. I'm not sure that some of the 15 grain flyers weren't due to the cylinder not being perfectly aligned. Remington #10 caps seemed to work marginally better than the CCI #11 caps. Though they both needed to be deformed and both would sometimes fall in front of the hammer. I bet it wasn't 5 shots in to the session that I began turning the firearm upside down before cocking it. That works every time.

To say im happy would be an understatement.
 
Those things can shoot. I always flick a revolver up and back to shed spent caps. On my '62 that didn't work, as the hammer would bounce back, and then come back down on the cap and smash it down, and then it has to be picked back out. I did have less problems with the Remington caps, but ran out of them with no re-supply in sight.

Great shooting!
 
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